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The 11" coil is coming and it looks to be a WINNER! :clapping:
Posted by: Andy Sabisch
Date: September 10, 2013 10:01AM
The hot topic on the forums of late seems to be the new 11" coil for the Deus and as previous posts have alluded to, the demand will likely outstrip the supply when it is initially released.

I have had the opportunity to run it through its paces recently and was given the green light to provide some details on the coil and field questions that people may have. So with that, I wanted to provide some background information on the coil and a peak at some of the results I experienced. More will be coming in a report that will be posted on XP America's website shortly.

Alain and his team have spent a good deal of time designing this accessory and it is not simply a different sized coil . . . . a good deal of effort went into the design both internally as well as in the construction itself. Surprisingly, the weight of the coil - despite being 2 inches larger than the stock coil - is only a few ounces more than the 9" coil. Other design features in the coil produce increased detection depth even on coin-sized targets and as one knows, if you are in a site where depth is king, an additional inch can often reopen sites others (including yourself) have written off as being worked out.

People have asked about the mounting point based on comparing the 9" coil to the 11"x13" coil in which the larger coil appeared "nose heavy". Well, the 11" coil does not mount in the center like the 9" coil but rather slightly behind the center point. Personally I did feel the coil was a tad nose heavy but after hours in the field with it, there was no discomfort. I guess I was simply used to the weight (or lack thereof) of the smaller coil and noticed a difference in the 11" coil but after the initial testing, the difference was negligible. But in case people want a different mounting point, I understand that a new block for that purpose is under development by a third party - more to come on that so stay tuned (details will be provided in the Deus Newsletter when available). The photo below shows the mounting point in case you are interested in that.

More details on the actual field test results will be posted soon and the report on the coil will be posted on the XP America's site by the end of the month but I did want to pass along what I experienced in my own yard after going through my test garden.

TEST RESULTS

I spent some time in my test garden testing the 11" coil with various programs and settings and comparing it against the other two coils that are already available. Overall, the performance exceeded my expectations and I had high hopes for it in some of the older, less trashy sites I knew still held some keepers. After I wrapped up the testing I thought I would take one quick walk through the side yard of my house which dates back to the early 1900's . I have hunted every inch of the yard - or so I thought - so was not expecting much.

Less than 5 feet into the yard I got an "82" that sounded surface yet showed a quarter black . . . and pulled a 1905 Indian Head penny from the ground. Stunned I continued and got a "90" with the same black showing and a 1906 Barber dime appeared . . . now I was scratching my head . . . .

But the last signal was the winner . . . . 2 feet from a tree I know I have gone past 100 times, I got a clear, repeatable signal that was reading in the low to mid 90's. Only a sliver of black was showing on the horseshoe. I checked the area with a pair of other detectors - both with 11" coils - and nothing. The yard has iron throughout it - small and large - and that may be the factor; however, the Deus hit the target cleanly.

Going into the garage I came out with a spade and pulled out a deep plug - and checking the hole saw that the target was still in the hole. Still sounding good, I began to wonder if it was a large piece of iron that was reading in the upper region in terms of TID values. After all, I had hunted this area countless times and the signal was simply too clear to have been missed before right? I pulled some more dirt out and checked it with the pinpointer. It was still in the bottom of the hole and as you can see, it was down 3 inches past the depth of the ProPointer . . . a good 12"+!





I pulled out a medal and after cleaning it up, saw that it was a boxing medal with the date 9-9-30 engraved on the back and 2nd place stamped into it.



Those are the priceless finds I love to find . . coins are great but this is truly a one of a kind find . . . a 2nd place medal from September 9, 1930! Now the research begins to see what I can find out about the medal and possibly even the person that received it. (P.S. - If anyone has some information on this show or the promotor that might help me track it down I'd welcome the help . . . . )

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So as additional reports come in on the new coil, I think the consensus will be that XP has "hit another one out of the park" with the 11" coil design both in terms of weight and performance.

If anyone has specific questions that I can field, I would be happy to provide what additional information I can . . .

Andy



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 09/10/2013 11:49AM by Andy Sabisch.


Re: The 11" coil is coming and it looks to be a WINNER! :clapping:
Posted by: Frank in NH
Date: September 10, 2013 11:12AM
Andy how do you think it compares to the 13 X 11" which I already have? Is it worth another $400 or $500 if you already have the other larger coil?

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Re: The 11" coil is coming and it looks to be a WINNER! :clapping:
Posted by: pulltabMiner
Date: September 10, 2013 04:02PM
OOOOhhhhhh!!!! Daddy likes!!!!



Living on a Monday with a Friday attitude
XP Deus, 11" coil
Tesoro Compadre 5" coil

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Re: The 11" coil is coming and it looks to be a WINNER! :clapping:
Posted by: newuser
Date: September 11, 2013 03:27AM
That medal is awesome, did you use one of your preset settings or did you have to tweak the settings or just turn on and go.

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Re: The 11" coil is coming and it looks to be a WINNER! :clapping:
Posted by: Crusty
Date: September 11, 2013 06:09AM
That's for the review......it's going to be a very popular coil and probably very hard to get initially......especially here in Canada.
Hopefully by next spring it will be available to everyone who wants one. Can't wait to get mine.

Dave



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www.crustymetaldetecting.com

Re: The 11" coil is coming and it looks to be a WINNER! :clapping:
Posted by: shadowman
Date: September 11, 2013 07:51AM
Andy; Have you had a chance to check it out on a Salt water beach? I would like to know how it preforms better or worse. I will be leaving for FL. in about six or seven weeks and am anxious to hit the beaches.

Re: The 11" coil is coming and it looks to be a WINNER! :clapping:N/T
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Date: September 11, 2013 07:54AM

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Re: The 11" coil is coming and it looks to be a WINNER! :clapping:
Posted by: Deusdigger
Date: September 11, 2013 08:27AM
Andy, what is the diameter and thickness of the medal?



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Saltwater . . .
Posted by: Andy Sabisch
Date: September 28, 2013 07:12AM
I would have to say that it will depend on where in Florida you will be hunting . . .much of Florida has sand that lacks black sand which eliminates half the challenge many other ocean areas have. If you are in these areas, the 11" will really shine - better coverage, better balance than the 11"x13" and more depth. When hunting St Augustine the 11" did a super job and was really impressive in terms of depth of detection even in the wet sand (opted to stay out of the surf line after seeing a few shark fins cruising along chasing bait fish :surprised:)

If you run into black sand, drop the sensitivity a tad and you should be OK. The settings in the book for salt water / black sand will serve you well with this coil as well as the 9" coil.

Good luck in your hunt and let us know how you do. If you have any questions, feel free to get in touch with me and I will see if I can get you dialed in for the area you are searching.

Andy

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Re: The 11" coil is coming and it looks to be a WINNER! :clapping:
Posted by: MHirschmann
Date: September 28, 2013 07:44PM
Thanks for the review Andy. This coil looks like it really could be the ticket. I already like the large coil a lot, but I am sure this one will be fantastic for coverage, balance, depth and weight. I am really looking forward to swinging one of these. I am also interested in the 2-box. I don't think I have much use for the 2-box, but I want to try one, as I have never used one before. The ability to add components to this detector as we go along is really cool and I look forward to reading more reviews covering these current items.

Re: The 11" coil is coming and it looks to be a WINNER! :clapping:
Posted by: DaveV3i
Date: October 01, 2013 06:56AM
the new coil will cost 549.00



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Re: The 11" coil is coming and it looks to be a WINNER! :clapping:
Posted by: JBM
Date: October 02, 2013 04:08AM
It is a winner for sure.

It has helped me to rewrite a village history in the UK.

Various finds from over a 2,000 years history have surfaced in the 4 weeks allotted to me between crops.

The small coil will still be the coil for stubble and long grass.

We have lots of folks waiting for the new coil in the UK, but I know that Alain is doing his best to satisfy the demand.:thumbup: Jerry.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/02/2013 04:10AM by JBM.

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Re: The 11" coil is coming and it looks to be a WINNER! :clapping:
Posted by: pulltabMiner
Date: October 02, 2013 09:53AM
My dealer is taking pre-orders now!!! Woo Hoo!!! I hope I can get one yet this year.



Living on a Monday with a Friday attitude
XP Deus, 11" coil
Tesoro Compadre 5" coil

Re: The 11" coil is coming and it looks to be a WINNER! :clapping:
Posted by: JBM1
Date: July 26, 2014 03:45AM
Well its nearly a year on and the 11" coil has really taken off in the uk.

The crops came off a few days ago and these very small silver coins could not hide from Monsieur Dues using the 11" coil.:cheers:

Magic bit of kit and plenty of them to be seen across the UK.:beers: Jerry.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/26/2014 03:46AM by JBM1.




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Great finds
Posted by: Andy Sabisch
Date: July 26, 2014 07:04AM
Jerry

Good to see you posting again and making some very nice finds . . . . all of us in the States love to see the type of finds you are all making across the pond so even if you think the finds at the end of the day are commonplace, feel free to post them as they are super finds to us.

Congrats on the finds and hope you find many more with the crops window open

Andy

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