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Folks interested in Deus or new owners
Posted by: squirrel1
Date: August 01, 2017 09:39PM
I highly encourage all to read the version 4.0 manual.
It can be found online.

A lot of Deus units received by folks may indeed have 3.x manuals provided with their units.

After you use your new unit, go back reread portions of the manual.
And again repeat this.

It will take more than a few times to comprehend all.
And some in field use and testing will go a long ways in understanding some of what is stated in manual.

Deus is not a dead quiet running unit!!!!
It will chirp, if used to detect.
Don't be trying to get it not to chirp.

Deus, the way it IDs targets is a break away from tradition here when compared to most other Vlf detectors.
A person air testing their units, this air testing (as it relates to ID) don't paint true pic of how Deus actually works in the field.

A lot of what Deus can do, how it will sound, how it will react,,,these tendencies can be mimicked a great deal with on top of the ground tests using nonferrous objects and item made of ferrous commonly found while detecting.

Navigation of unit needs to be mastered.
The only way to do this is to navigate, and peek around.
Especially under the expert tabs.

Mineralization meter.
New users should heed the data this meter provides to user.
It can and will affect some settings as far as performance.

Ground balance
User has options.
KISS priinciple should be applied here.
A pumping GB over clean ground to start off with.

Understand the icons for pairing of devices as depicted on remote (if applicable)

Understand the 2 boxes where ground phase data is supplied.

Be mindful of silencer setting, this setting can be changed on its own, depending on selected reactvity setting chosen.

Understand some audio volume while over deeper targets can be had with audio report levels 5 and higher.

Deus disc layout is not your typical disc layout.
If offers disc settings expressed in tenths with some settings.

New users IMO should steer away from all metal modes of detector excluding the use of pinpoint function.

Users should study the factory program settings depicted toward the rear of manual.

Users should learn what the term Vdi normalization means, and by turning this feature off,,,know how both means affect detector readings, and find out any advantages by using one setting or the other.

Understand Deus doesn't have a depth meter per SE,,,but does offer other means to judge depth (generally on coin sized objects).

Understand the notch feature.
It's use and affects is not exactly what a person would think, due to the way Deus IDs targets in the field.

When asking others for Deus advice,,,you should provide you soil mineral levels generally found in your sites.
Like refer to mineralization index meter readings as low scale, mid scale or 3/4 scale.
Deus will behave differently here depending on what the index meter says.

Users should learn how to marry their components themselves.
Very good chance your deus detector will arrive with all components married to one another.

Pay very close attention to proper charging instructions as far as how the charging clip is connected.

I think this information above.
Will get a person on their way.

Re: Folks interested in Deus or new owners
Posted by: unearth
Date: August 02, 2017 04:01AM
Nice write up squirrel1.

Re: Folks interested in Deus or new owners
Posted by: LTimedigger
Date: August 02, 2017 08:46AM
"deus is not a dead quiet running unit" How true. When I first started using it, having come from a CTX, thought I would go nuts. One of the harder things to master is knowing when to quiet it down a little bit when say iron flakes or emi is a problem and then just tuning out most of the chirps. You learn to know the difference between them and the good hit. thanks

Re: Folks interested in Deus or new owners
Posted by: pplinker
Date: August 02, 2017 02:07PM
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squirrel1
I highly encourage all to read the version 4.0 manual.
It can be found online.

A lot of Deus units received by folks may indeed have 3.x manuals provided with their units.

Yeah, I got a 3.x manual with mine. Thank you for the information that the 4.0 is available online.



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Re: Folks interested in Deus or new owners
Posted by: smkunder
Date: August 02, 2017 02:17PM
Yup just downloaded 4.0 manual , reads pretty well and quite informative. Thanks for the link!



Steve

CTX 3030 , XP Deus Ml-6 Pinpointer, Minelab Excal

Re: Folks interested in Deus or new owners
Posted by: squirrel1
Date: August 02, 2017 02:59PM
Here is link with summary of what version 4 brings.

http://www.xpmetaldetectorsamericas.com/xp-deus-version-4-features

Here is link with actual Deus V4 users manual.

http://www.xpmetaldetectors.com/telechargement/Instruction%20manual/DEUS_V4_MANUAL_UK.pdf

Now these links, when read and studied may cause some folks to asked some questions.

By all means ask.
With the talent of folks that visits and or post on this forum, you'll likely get an answer.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 08/02/2017 03:05PM by squirrel1.

Re: Folks interested in Deus or new owners
Posted by: squirrel1
Date: August 02, 2017 03:12PM
Folks will notice the Deus Lite package.
This is package without remote.

Here is some info shedding light on the Deus Lite package.
You may see this referred to as Starter Pack.

Here is what you have access to via wireless headphone module.

Factory program number selection
Remember some of the slots will be blank--- due to no upload

Disc
Sensitivity
Ground balance-- only manual-- no tracking or pumping like you would have with remote

Frequency
Number of tones,, to include pitch and full tones

Sound volume

Coil selection-- in case you have more than one coil

So you can see from above,,,you won't have access to the following,, remote purchase allows the following settings changes

Notch
Tone break setting
Tone freq setting
Reactivity
Silencer
Ground notch
Iron vol adjustment
Auto ground tracking
Pumping GB option
Vdi normalization option
Xy screen option
Update version option,, or downgrade version option
Tx power setting
Freq shift
Overload setting
Pinpoint function
All metal mode(s) selection

I think this is most of what you miss with wireless headphone use ONLYa

Additional comments here.
A person purchasing a Deus package without remote.
They can use another person's remote and infact update their headphone module and coil.

They can by using someone's remote, actually program their setup with programs that entail making changes to the settings outlined above. (Remote only viewable/adjustable settings)
If a user does this, they will not have a way to actually view (or change) these settings, but the settings will be felt by user when detecting.
So a person would need to write down their settings per slot number on remote to remember which settings apply.



Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 08/02/2017 03:29PM by squirrel1.

Re: Folks interested in Deus or new owners
Posted by: squirrel1
Date: August 02, 2017 03:41PM
Here's a link with multiple videos talking about Deus.

http://www.xpmetaldetectors.com/metal-detector/category/videos-xp/deus/

Re: Folks interested in Deus or new owners
Posted by: squirrel1
Date: August 02, 2017 04:14PM
Re: Folks interested in Deus or new owners
Posted by: squirrel1
Date: August 02, 2017 04:38PM
Comment I made above as far as what is lacking settings wise for Deus lite or starter package.
I referred to wireless headphones use only.
This would also extend to folks who have headphone module only (no remote) who elects to use wired headphones plugged in to ( headphone) module.
The headphone module can be fitted to top of rod for use/ viewing and plug wired headphones in for hearing audio.
Didn't want to confuse folks here.

Xp classroom and skills center videos.
http://www.xp-detectors.co.uk



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/02/2017 04:44PM by squirrel1.

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Re: Folks interested in Deus or new owners
Posted by: smkunder
Date: August 02, 2017 05:04PM
Loving these manual links because I now have them on my smartphone for in field access .

Thanks again



Steve

CTX 3030 , XP Deus Ml-6 Pinpointer, Minelab Excal

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Re: Folks interested in Deus or new owners
Posted by: cometguy
Date: August 03, 2017 06:05PM
I so agree with the top of the ground testing statement. Go top of the ground and keep moving the coil up till it just barely squeaks. This will give you an idea of what the deep ones sound like. You can add some iron close to them on top of the ground and listen how it changes things.

Quote
squirrel1
I highly encourage all to read the version 4.0 manual.
It can be found online.

A lot of Deus units received by folks may indeed have 3.x manuals provided with their units.

After you use your new unit, go back reread portions of the manual.
And again repeat this.

It will take more than a few times to comprehend all.
And some in field use and testing will go a long ways in understanding some of what is stated in manual.

Deus is not a dead quiet running unit!!!!
It will chirp, if used to detect.
Don't be trying to get it not to chirp.

Deus, the way it IDs targets is a break away from tradition here when compared to most other Vlf detectors.
A person air testing their units, this air testing (as it relates to ID) don't paint true pic of how Deus actually works in the field.

A lot of what Deus can do, how it will sound, how it will react,,,these tendencies can be mimicked a great deal with on top of the ground tests using nonferrous objects and item made of ferrous commonly found while detecting.

Navigation of unit needs to be mastered.
The only way to do this is to navigate, and peek around.
Especially under the expert tabs.

Mineralization meter.
New users should heed the data this meter provides to user.
It can and will affect some settings as far as performance.

Ground balance
User has options.
KISS priinciple should be applied here.
A pumping GB over clean ground to start off with.

Understand the icons for pairing of devices as depicted on remote (if applicable)

Understand the 2 boxes where ground phase data is supplied.

Be mindful of silencer setting, this setting can be changed on its own, depending on selected reactvity setting chosen.

Understand some audio volume while over deeper targets can be had with audio report levels 5 and higher.

Deus disc layout is not your typical disc layout.
If offers disc settings expressed in tenths with some settings.

New users IMO should steer away from all metal modes of detector excluding the use of pinpoint function.

Users should study the factory program settings depicted toward the rear of manual.

Users should learn what the term Vdi normalization means, and by turning this feature off,,,know how both means affect detector readings, and find out any advantages by using one setting or the other.

Understand Deus doesn't have a depth meter per SE,,,but does offer other means to judge depth (generally on coin sized objects).

Understand the notch feature.
It's use and affects is not exactly what a person would think, due to the way Deus IDs targets in the field.

When asking others for Deus advice,,,you should provide you soil mineral levels generally found in your sites.
Like refer to mineralization index meter readings as low scale, mid scale or 3/4 scale.
Deus will behave differently here depending on what the index meter says.

Users should learn how to marry their components themselves.
Very good chance your deus detector will arrive with all components married to one another.

Pay very close attention to proper charging instructions as far as how the charging clip is connected.

I think this information above.
Will get a person on their way.


Re: Folks interested in Deus or new owners
Posted by: Charles (Upstate NY)
Date: September 04, 2017 09:24AM
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Deus, the way it IDs targets is a break away from tradition here when compared to most other Vlf detectors.

Can you elaborate?

Re: Folks interested in Deus or new owners
Posted by: squirrel1
Date: September 04, 2017 12:23PM
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Charles (Upstate NY)
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Deus, the way it IDs targets is a break away from tradition here when compared to most other Vlf detectors.

Can you elaborate?

Certainly.

I think you have alluded to being a past or present explorer user.

Notice how even say a dime at9" deep explorer, it will likely give an accurate Id of dime.

Fast forward to Deus.
If a persons airtest different coin denominations they will see different Vdi meter presentations as the coins are swept.
Deus on shallow (not compromised coins with iron or other colocated nonferrous) and mid depth coins will yield likely the same or very near info one gets when they airtest coins.
But once the coin slips down past a certain distance depth wise,,,,Deus will try and run to the high side ID wise.
Now, it is possible for Deus to only partially run to the high side id wise.
Most of the time though it will run to the 90s range ID wise.
Whatever tone a user has assigned to this region is what they will hear.

An example here to show.

Nickel using 12khz normalizing off reads 56 in meter when airtested.
Bury nickel at 4" deep likely it will read 56.
Bury nickel at 6" deep likely it will read 56.
Bury nickel at 8" deep it may or may not read 56.
Could indeed read 97 or 98.
Bury nickel at 10" alms or a certainty user will see id of 98 or no meter tid pre station at all.
If using horseshoe graphic available, user likely will see just a sliver of horse shaded,,,,denoting deep target usually.

A word of caution here, Deus settings can drive this process. Soil mineralization levels can drive too.

For example I can detect say a deeper nickel using Reactivty 4, 12 kHz,,,at 6" deep.
This higher setting Reactivty, I will likey not get a true Vdi reading.
While sweeping over this same 6" deep nickle, if Inlower my reactivity tomsqy level 2 or 2.5,,very good chance I will indeed see a true or more true Vdi reading of nickel.

Another way due to Deus inner workings, ,,user can even notch out say a nickel using notch process,,,,yet if a user comes over a deep nickel,,guess what?
User likely to hear this notched nickel,,,because Deus has quit assigning true Vdi to target and has assigned a high reading internally, likely providing a 90s meter reading with associated user assigned tone to boot. ( as long as user hasn't notched this 90s region)

Maybe this wil help you.
In a nutshell, Deus by the way it works on deeper nonferrous targets generally, it force ps a user to dig.
And yes some nice older coins, etc have come to light,

And if we compared an explorer on SOME of these deeper target not all,, esplorer user might walk due to id not being what it should be for nicer find .(non junk).

One more thing.
I use notch sometimes.
It can have negative effects to detector ops though.
Another remedy is assign the junk target region a low(er) tone,,and the higher conductive higher tone(s),,,bottom line is better to let the deus' audio flow and you the user listen to the high(er) tones provided.
Now, none of this is really important when looking for gold jewelry unless a person want to gamble and asssong region Vdi wise 00-35 to 40 a lower tone,,,anticipating most gold jewelry will come in higher than 35 or 40 ID wise.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 09/04/2017 12:35PM by squirrel1.

Re: Folks interested in Deus or new owners
Posted by: Listener
Date: September 04, 2017 04:31PM
Thanks squirrel1 for all your information. It is so much easier to read and absorb that if u had done a show and tell. Much better cause some of them are done too fast, sound quality is off, and leaves u wondering about how much is staged. Videos may be favored by some but they are never made using my soil and pictures and words in my opinion make better postings. My internet data is too limited I guess to be able to watch all the videos that seem to be multiplying on these forums that I would like to see. Thanks again for all your comments and tips.

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