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for those who use notch what do walking liberty halves hit in 7 kh????
Posted by: calabash digger
Date: August 07, 2017 08:45PM
I saw xp mans settings and he had a notch window of 96-99 and I asked about halves and he posted a pic of a modern one he found . Heres a 1935 walking half tested in 7 kh maybe the silver content is different. 7kh 96 j umps 97 ever now and then 12 kh 97 and 17 kh 97 and sometimes jumps 98 all read 96 and higher. I'm not really to big a fan of notch but do understand coin shooters using it. imo notch window needs to be narrower or run the risk of missing a big silver. I applied a notch window of 96-99 and the silver half was gone in all 3 frequencys.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/07/2017 08:54PM by calabash digger.




Re: for those who use notch what do walking liberty halves hit in 7 kh????
Posted by: XP-Man
Date: August 07, 2017 09:00PM
Air test are one things.. i am pretty confident in my settings. My dirt is sweet blackness and barely any emi and vert low mineralization. I hunt with a buddy that uses a ctx.. and when we are out together we always check our holes to see if we would dig it. Since doing so. He has dug 2 silver dollars and a half. And my machine picked then up no isses ranging from 4 inches to 10ish

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Re: for those who use notch what do walking liberty halves hit in 7 kh????
Posted by: calabash digger
Date: August 07, 2017 09:12PM
Well I wouldn't chance but that's your choice. I will give something else to ponder with the notch window set like that. The deus on deep coins will elevate the numbers ALOT of times and you can check this yourself. When it gets down to where its at the edge of the vdi depth wise it will and does a lot of times elevate the numbers I have seen them hit 99 in ground test on coins at depth. What matters is that your comfortable with your settings. I just posted my findings and I have dug coins in the wild that hit high . People can throw off on air tests if they want and test gardens but in my experience they help out a lot in a way a detector behaves in the field.

Re: for those who use notch what do walking liberty halves hit in 7 kh????
Posted by: squirrel1
Date: August 07, 2017 09:42PM
Very that half and try.
Like 10" deep.
That will prove.

Also get the half away from coil if air testing.

Imdug a half, in a polluted area,,,,meter flashed 97. I wasn't running any notch.
Can't remember if Imwas in 12khz or 18khz.

Re: for those who use notch what do walking liberty halves hit in 7 kh????
Posted by: Rick73
Date: August 08, 2017 02:57PM
I bought a XP this spring with the 11" coil. I mainly hunt farms fields. I have a favorite field that at one time was a picnic grove. It was cornstalks that was chiseled last fall. I use 8khz with reactivity 1 and discrimination of 10 and 5 tones.. The soil runs about 65-70 GB. I hit a half dollar size Bull Durham token that read 98. A few minutes later another at 98. Within the next hour 2 more 98's that were barber halves. These coins lay at angles because of the chiseled soil. Maybe this makes the higher number. I also have read about the 97-99 notch. I will never use it.

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Re: for those who use notch what do walking liberty halves hit in 7 kh????
Posted by: CZconnoisseur
Date: August 08, 2017 04:25PM
Turn off ID Norm for all freqs below 18kHz. Problem solved.

Last half I dug was the 1893 Barber in my profile pic, it was 9" deep and was hitting 88-90 in 4kHz.

Two weeks later at another park, also in 4kHz I got a rock-solid 87-88 VDI hit and at 6" down there was a 1946 Walker much to my surprise.

Deep targets tend to "up-average" but most of the fringe coins from our soil like to hit in the upper 80s and low 90s in 4kHz. 95 and up is iron almost all the time...and my 4kHz notch is always 96-99.

Mike dug a 1oz .9999 silver round larger than a silver dollar last month, and my Deus indicated "95" out of the ground. I scanned it first and walked away from this "95" indication (only 1" deep or so), but Mike dug it and was seriously rewarded!



Tokens 16
Wheats 138
Indians 52
V Nickels 8
Buffalo Nickels 7
War Nickels 6
Seated Dimes 4
Barber Dimes 8
Mercury Dimes 23
Canada Vicky Dimes 1
Rosie Dimes 8
Seated Quarters 1
Barber Quarters 2
Standing Quarters 1
Washington Quarters 1
Walker Halves 1
Barber Halves 1
Silver Jewelry 7
Gold Jewelry 1

Re: for those who use notch what do walking liberty halves hit in 7 kh????
Posted by: squirrel1
Date: August 08, 2017 05:25PM
Hi folks,
I have been watching this thread and was going to see what was said.

Now, if we are talking about a coin buried like a big silver,,even a silver dollar,,,the suggestions above are spot on.

But what about multiple big silvers,,,like 4 silver dollars stacked,,,or maybe a silver hoard what then?

Some of the solutions above won't allow a person to possibly detect.

And having ID norm off , sure it could help.
But as you lower the freq using Deus your odds of finding a silver hoard, or say 4 silver dollars stacked go up.

Very possible to be using 8 or 12 khz and even with ID norm off to swing right over and keep walking.

4 kHz gives the best odds, it too not a 100 % certainty to snag every single combo of big silver whatever knitted closely together.

Anyone who desires to see what happens as you indeed lower freq, and see Deus' response.

Get yourself 5 silver dollars and experiement.
And using notch values like 97-99, you'll see what disadvantage they offer.

You'll see what I am referring to above.

And none of what I am referring to above has anything to do with masking like say nails or other ferrous.

Cheers and happy detecting.

Calabash, if you have say 4 or 5 silver dollars.
Do a video and show folks here.



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Re: for those who use notch what do walking liberty halves hit in 7 kh????
Posted by: squirrel1
Date: August 08, 2017 05:45PM
Well, the term " big silver" was used above.
And recommendations given.

I didn't want folks to draw the absolute wrong conclusion.

Besides it all learning here for folks.

And everyone I'm sure would love to find a silver hoard.

Re: for those who use notch what do walking liberty halves hit in 7 kh????
Posted by: XP-Man
Date: August 08, 2017 09:12PM
I do run my machine with normal id off

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Re: for those who use notch what do walking liberty halves hit in 7 kh????
Posted by: calabash digger
Date: August 09, 2017 07:17AM
I will have a video of in ground test it will be up tomorrow and it will show that the 96 -99 notch window is knocking out silvers at depth and cutting down on signal strengths on other deep good targets and making them iffy . Both ways the 96-99 notch window knocks out deep silver with id norm off and on , will have it posted tomorrow. there is a nuance here I believe that casues this and we can talk about it in the thread when I get the video up . Does it knock out all deep silver no it doesn't but certain situations it does .I know guys above run it and have found great things doing so but that 96-99 notch window is hurting the performance of the machine on certain targets ie deep silver and will post a video of it doing just that and we can discuss it. stay tuned.



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Re: for those who use notch what do walking liberty halves hit in 7 kh????
Posted by: Tony N (Michigan)
Date: August 09, 2017 07:32AM
I tested this scenario this morning with a .999 pure American Eagle Dollar this morning. And played with the Notch. 96 and that baby is gone. 97 very iffy and sometimes gone. 98 a hit, 99 a hit.

So If I Notch 96-99, I could be walking over Eagle Dollars. Now, we have to ask ourselves, how many people lose American Eagle Dollars anywhere?
I haven't tried this on an old silver dollar with is not pure silver. Morgan's and Peace dollars are 90% silver. It could skew the test some.



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Re: for those who use notch what do walking liberty halves hit in 7 kh????
Posted by: squirrel1
Date: August 09, 2017 08:18AM
What about a big old silver candlestick.

A buried bar of silver.

A big silver tea pot.

A silver hoard of coins.

Not out of the question a monster copper object could be possibly be affected signal wise.



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Re: for those who use notch what do walking liberty halves hit in 7 kh????
Posted by: Tony N (Michigan)
Date: August 09, 2017 09:30AM
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squirrel1
What about a big old silver candlestick.

A buried bar of silver.

A big silver tea pot.

A silver hoard of coins.

Not out of the question a monster copper object could be possibly be affected signal wise.

Or a downed UFO that's been buried for centuries? :blowup: and has gobs of Klingon gold in it?

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Per current price of silver per ounce
Posted by: Tony N (Michigan)
Date: August 09, 2017 12:18PM
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squirrel1
This here not exactly a UFO.

If buried, and swept with Deus could be tough to get.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m4sSDOOp7pk

Today that would come to $317,380.00. Not too shabby.

Re: for those who use notch what do walking liberty halves hit in 7 kh????
Posted by: Architex
Date: August 09, 2017 01:55PM
And I thought I was having a good day today when I found a $1.00 president coin.

:surrender:



One Man's Trash...........is what I usually find.

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Where are the diamond rings?.............They said there'd be diamond rings !.

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