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Deus vs Minelab
Posted by: larryw
Date: November 01, 2017 05:22PM
Can anybody give me any info regarding
how Deus stacks up to Minelab? The Deus
Ads are very interesting, but I would
prefer to hear from experienced detectorists
who have used both before I make a decision
to buy or not. I have used a Minelab XS Explorer
for many years, and have been very happy with it, especially at the beach,but at my age it’s getting
too heavy after an hour or two of detecting.
The Deus ads indicate that depth is as good
as the Minelab. What say you experts? :-)

Re: Deus vs Minelab
Posted by: cookie58
Date: November 01, 2017 08:51PM
I have been metal detecting since the early 70's. I am no expert by no means but have enjoyed the hobby several years. I hunt relics which is not beach hunting but has the same effect on the old shoulder---I presume. I had an e-trac and an explorer xs. They are definitely good metal detectors but you will just love the XP Deus. Watch the youtube videos with Gary the XP man and use his programs. This will get you started. You will begin having fun again with this great hobby. Check with Chuck at Indian Nations. He'll fix you right up and you will not be disappointed with the XP Deus..........Watch some of Calabash Digger's videos. This will give an idea of the tones for ferous vs. unferous.............

Re: Deus vs Minelab
Posted by: larryw
Date: November 01, 2017 09:03PM
Thanks for the input! I appreciate it!

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Re: Deus vs Minelab
Posted by: calabash digger
Date: November 02, 2017 03:57AM
relics = DEUS hands down cant be beat ! coin shooting = well ill let you coin shooters debate that ...

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Re: Deus vs Minelab
Posted by: E-TRAC-OHIO
Date: November 02, 2017 07:03AM
Both great machines and both have their advantages - this is just my opinion ...

I've had my Minelab E-Trac for 8 years - it is beyond a doubt, one of the best machines ever made - dug over 12,000 coins, relics and pieces of jewelry with mine.
Bought my Deus 2 1/2 years ago - I've used it over 95% of the time since the day I got it ( I wanted to learn the machine and I have an old shoulder injury ).

Minelab --- More accurate deeper target ID - ( FBS ) performs much better on sand / salt water beaches - many types of affordable after market coils available.

XP Deus - Has a much faster processor for hunting in heavy iron, free upgrades - (no need to buy the next new model) - very compact and only 2.2 lbs vs ML's 5.5 Lb !



I'm sure you would be happy with either one in the long run.

Good Luck !



XP Deus * 9" Coil * Vance / Killer B Hybrid Headphones
Minelab E-Trac * 5" - 4.5" x 7" - Stealth X-8 Coils * Killer B + Gray Ghost Headphones

1724 - K.G. Half Penny * 1736 - K.G. Half Penny * 1783 - Half Real
1817 - Large Cent * 1829 - Capped Bust Dime * 1837 - Capped Bust Half Dime * 1852 - Three Cent * 1857 - Flying Eagle Cent * 1865 - Two Cent * 1877 - Seated Quarter

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Re: Deus vs Minelab
Posted by: Southwind
Date: November 02, 2017 07:55AM
+1 on what E-TRAC-OHIO posted.



The real treasure is in the hunt...

Re: Deus vs Minelab
Posted by: Charles (Upstate NY)
Date: November 02, 2017 09:18AM
I have owned every model Explorer, beach, parks, relic hunting have done it all with that machine. The Deus will be a shock to your system at first. The Explorer has far superior target ID accuracy plus the added 2nd axis of Ferrous/non-Ferrous target information the Deus lacks. Even when it provides an ID (on deeper targets it won't even guess) the ID gets iffy and jumps around at depths where ID is still solid on the Explorers. So that's the main adjustment you would have to make Deus vs Explorer. I'm using multi tones which are pretty good with reactivity at 1. Deus sucks ass at dealing with rusty crown caps where on the Explorer they are a non issue, notch them out and done. The crown caps overlay the coin ID on Deus making this worse. So would not be my machine for a site that has a lot of crown caps. Yes there are techniques for figuring out if its a crown cap or not but you would waste LOT of time inspecting crown cap targets vs zero time on the Explorer, slowing down your hunt considerably.

On the plus side the Deus is deep, even deeper than Explorer in highly mineralized soil where I'm hunting now on the west coast. Explorer struggles with this soil Deus pretty much ignores it, just GB and go about your business. I'm using the 9 inch HF round coil. Deus will slam small gold the Explorer won't even touch, again I'm talking the 9 inch round HF coil at 54 kHz. I assembled a bunch of small gold targets for testing, Deus hit them all, Explorer hit none of them even if you rubbed them on the coil. So to trip up the Deus I went over to the we buy gold place and purchased some more difficult gold targets, small gold chains, gold stud earrings, again the Deus hit them all Explorer none of them. I have not tested the Deus on a wet salt water beach, but in the dry sand it should be great.

Alternatively the same 9 inch round coil can be switched to 14.4 kHz which is more in line with the Explorer, reactivity 1. I started off with reactivity in the 2-3 range and it wasn't getting the depth I would have expected vs an Explorer, reactivity 1 fixed that. Also good targets were easier to pick out by ear based on the size of the target as you sweep it being larger, wider, fuller. Where reactivity 2 and above all the targets trash and coins seemed small and the same size. So save the higher reactivity for those rusty nail hell holes, its nice to have that option but I'd be using reactivity 1 when possible as a first choice. Being able to switch between frequencies without having to switch machines or coils that's cool, Deus is more of an all in one detector in that respect you can reconfigure on the fly out in the field.

Deus is light. I'm turning 55 in a few days and just can't swing the 5 lb Minelabs anymore especially after recent hip and back surgeries. I can swing the Deus for 2.5 hours and never notice any pain or soreness in my arm or shoulder its that light. Also loving the elimination of the cord tangle, its all wireless, love it.

Deus is much sharper in iron. If an iron target seems to be 6 inches wide as you sweep it with an Explorer it will seem more like 2-3 inches with a Deus. Ditto for all targets. I swung a Deus for a couple weeks then took my Se Pro out and the difference was so obvious, all targets seemed large on the Se Pro vs the Deus I was wishing I had brought the Deus that day honestly because everything on the Se Pro seemed like a wider gooey blob where everything was clear and focused with the Deus.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/02/2017 09:22AM by Charles (Upstate NY).

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Re: Deus vs Minelab
Posted by: Architex
Date: November 02, 2017 10:04AM
Excellent write up.



One Man's Trash...........is what I usually find.

XP Deus / CTX 3030

Where are the diamond rings?.............They said there'd be diamond rings !.

Re: Deus vs Minelab
Posted by: JBM1
Date: November 02, 2017 11:49AM
Dues every time for this old fella.Mine even located me one of Americas rarest colonial coins in the UK.:thumbup: Jerry.

Re: Deus vs Minelab
Posted by: Mkus
Date: November 03, 2017 06:52AM
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E-TRAC-OHIO
Both great machines and both have their advantages - this is just my opinion ...

I've had my Minelab E-Trac for 8 years - it is beyond a doubt, one of the best machines ever made - dug over 12,000 coins, relics and pieces of jewelry with mine.
Bought my Deus 2 1/2 years ago - I've used it over 95% of the time since the day I got it ( I wanted to learn the machine and I have an old shoulder injury ).

Minelab --- More accurate deeper target ID - ( FBS ) performs much better on sand / salt water beaches - many types of affordable after market coils available.

XP Deus - Has a much faster processor for hunting in heavy iron, free upgrades - (no need to buy the next new model) - very compact and only 2.2 lbs vs ML's 5.5 Lb !



I'm sure you would be happy with either one in the long run.

Good Luck !
100% agree forgot though I prefer Deus on land etrac for the beach and the Deus is nice and light charges and holds a charge for along time though the Etrac with a RNB battery will go for days!

Re: Deus vs Minelab
Posted by: Lodge Scent
Date: November 03, 2017 12:59PM
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JBM1
Dues every time for this old fella.Mine even located me one of Americas rarest colonial coins in the UK.:thumbup: Jerry.

Yeah, yeah yeah, rub it in Jerry :smile: Bad enough you just have to walk out your back door and start finding hammies and romans and medieval, and iron age and celtic etc, etc. You just had to go a find a RARE Baltimore shilling as well !!! You could have at least been kind enough to find on this side of the pond. :cheers:

Lodge.

Re: Deus vs Minelab
Posted by: JBM1
Date: November 03, 2017 02:34PM
Hi Lodge,

It gets worse it was not a shilling, but very rare penny the only other known 9 are in the USA.

If you come over here anytime, I will take you out on a dig.

Mind you we sometimes blank out, its not all milk and honey.

Happy Hunting,

Jerry..

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