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Found out hiking: is it gold or am I dreaming lol
Posted by: earthlypotluck
Date: May 02, 2015 08:59PM
Went out hiking and picked up a few interesting rocks along my journey. Came home and decided to place them under my digital microscope for closer inspection. The one in particular caught my eye lol Looks like gold but I think I may just be wishing too much :cheers:
Any idea of what this substance is on the rock? Thanks - Jim



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Re: Found out hiking: is it gold or am I dreaming lol
Posted by: old lineman
Date: May 11, 2015 07:55PM
Where did you find it, what state?

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Re: Found out hiking: is it gold or am I dreaming lol
Posted by: earthlypotluck
Date: May 11, 2015 08:10PM
Found in NW Connecticut.



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Re: Found out hiking: is it gold or am I dreaming lol
Posted by: mudpuppy
Date: May 27, 2015 08:51AM
Is the main rock white Quartz? Looks like it...gold is found in white quartz like that...didja try putting a drop of your gold test acid on it yet? Heck, maybe even use a ohm meter to see if you get conductivity? Interesting for sure...just saw this post! Let us know what you determine!
Mud



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Re: Found out hiking: is it gold or am I dreaming lol
Posted by: Dave J.
Date: May 29, 2015 03:38AM
Hard to tell from the photo. Gold tends to associate with quartz, but then again so does iron pyrites. I've seen mica (goethitized biotite) looking about like that as well, on quartz.

The color is not that buttery gold color, it's closer to straw-colored iron pyrites or goethitized biotite. But in a web published photo, color rendition can be off a long ways.

More important I'd say is the visual texture. If its' sparkly, "all that glitters is not gold". The overwhelming majority of gold does not glitter, it has a soft glow. In the photo, the yellow zones look glittery to me. But, again, what's on my monitor screen may be very different from the actual specimen in real life.

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Re: Found out hiking: is it gold or am I dreaming lol
Posted by: earthlypotluck
Date: May 29, 2015 07:04AM
This is an enhanced photo with a 200x microscope with artificial light. What initially drew me to the rock was the purity of the white. As I stepped over the brook, the white rock looked super white and "clean". You know how water can make it look just that. While in the brook, it gave no indication of gold reflection or anything of that nature. Sitting in the sun, the gold substance actually looks partially dull looking - no sparkle at all to it. You are right on with your statement "it has a soft glow" and a good description of what is on this rock. Not that I am wishing it to be gold (it would be nice) but rather agreeing with your description.


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mudpuppy
Is the main rock white Quartz? Looks like it...gold is found in white quartz like that...didja try putting a drop of your gold test acid on it yet? Heck, maybe even use a ohm meter to see if you get conductivity? Interesting for sure...just saw this post! Let us know what you determine!
Mud


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Dave J.
Hard to tell from the photo. Gold tends to associate with quartz, but then again so does iron pyrites. I've seen mica (goethitized biotite) looking about like that as well, on quartz.

The color is not that buttery gold color, it's closer to straw-colored iron pyrites or goethitized biotite. But in a web published photo, color rendition can be off a long ways.

More important I'd say is the visual texture. If its' sparkly, "all that glitters is not gold". The overwhelming majority of gold does not glitter, it has a soft glow. In the photo, the yellow zones look glittery to me. But, again, what's on my monitor screen may be very different from the actual specimen in real life.



Fear is paralyzing and courage is liberating. No matter what is put in front of you, there is always a way to make it work.

Dreams are just dreams, goals are dreams with deadlines. The desire to succeed comes from within. Stay focused on your goals, and if people say that you can’t do something, get them out of your life and move on.

Re: Found out hiking: is it gold or am I dreaming lol
Posted by: Dave J.
Date: May 31, 2015 06:06PM
For your purposes oxalic acid (probably obtainable at a compounding pharmacy or cleaning and plumbing supplies store) dissolved in water as a somewhat dilute solution is probably the best choice inasmuch as it will attack most iron minerals but won't touch glass or most plastics. The pure acid is wicked stuff (handle very carefully) but the dilute solution is not so dangerous. For a small fee a compounding pharmacy will probably be happy to batch you up a hundred milliliters (about 3 fluid ounces) solution of several grams oxalic acid so you don't have to bother with that detail.

If you soak the rock in oxalic acid and it gets bleached, the bright stuff was probably pyrite or oxidized biotite. It won't touch gold. When you're done with oxalic acid, fully neutralize it with an excess of calcium carbonate (pharmacy will have that) before disposing, otherwise it'll corrode the metal plumbing.

Re: Found out hiking: is it gold or am I dreaming lol
Posted by: markinga
Date: June 10, 2015 08:18PM
Gold is malleable. Can you scratch it with a knife or put a dent in it or is it brittle? Also, gold streaks yellow on white porcelain.

Re: Found out hiking: is it gold or am I dreaming lol
Posted by: CMan1
Date: June 13, 2015 04:27PM
If it is gold the Govenor might tax it he needs the revenue.
How is the water quality in the NW CT Highland lake and streams? Enjoy the area I did 67-69.

Re: Found out hiking: is it gold or am I dreaming lol
Posted by: Fabio
Date: May 28, 2016 07:39AM
They say gold shines even without direct light. Try looking at it in semi-darkness, like in a closet. If the gold color continues to shine, that would be one good sign it might really be gold.

Re: Found out hiking: is it gold or am I dreaming lol
Posted by: Foiled
Date: June 28, 2016 09:56AM
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Dave J.
For your purposes oxalic acid (probably obtainable at a compounding pharmacy or cleaning and plumbing supplies store) dissolved in water as a somewhat dilute solution is probably the best choice inasmuch as it will attack most iron minerals but won't touch glass or most plastics. The pure acid is wicked stuff (handle very carefully) but the dilute solution is not so dangerous. For a small fee a compounding pharmacy will probably be happy to batch you up a hundred milliliters (about 3 fluid ounces) solution of several grams oxalic acid so you don't have to bother with that detail.

If you soak the rock in oxalic acid and it gets bleached, the bright stuff was probably pyrite or oxidized biotite. It won't touch gold. When you're done with oxalic acid, fully neutralize it with an excess of calcium carbonate (pharmacy will have that) before disposing, otherwise it'll corrode the metal plumbing.


I use oxalic acid for taking rust off chrome motorcycle and bicycle parts, it works great and doesn't hurt the chrome, I get mine at the Ace Hardware store by me, they have it in the paint section.

Re: Found out hiking: is it gold or am I dreaming lol
Posted by: Dave J.
Date: June 28, 2016 11:57AM
Thanks, Foiled. I'll have to remember that next time I need the stuff.

REMINDER TO ANYONE USING THE STUFF: it is poisonous, dangerous, and corrosive-- and very useful if you understand what it will and won't do. Don't touch the stuff until you know how to use it properly. Please begin by reading my post 31 May 2015. And then Google the stuff. Wiki is good place to start: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxalic_acid

Meanwhile back to the glittery rock in question: looks like oxidized biotite to me, but as others have pointed out it's hard to know for sure from a photograph. The way it glitters (or doesn't) in real life is a dead giveaway, there is no confusing gold and oxidized biotite.

* * * * Trip down memory lane * * * * * Funniest place I ever found gold. About 5th grade, the concrete sidewalk in front of the school cafeteria, An edge was broken, exposing unfinished surface. The cement and aggregates were an overall gray, but there was this little yellow spot. I took a closer look: it was a gold nugget about the size of the ball on a ball point pen. I managed to pry it loose with the toad stabber blade on my Boy Scout pocket knife. Nowadays a tool like that would get a kid labelled as a terrorist.

The concrete was made from gravel from Teichert & Sons, who extract their aggregates from the American River east of Sacramento. Yep, that American River. Everyone thinks of them as a construction sand and gravel producer, but to produce that by hydraulic classification everything is already there to sluice gold on an industrial scale. They rarely talk about it, but it's also a low cost placer gold mining operation, low cost because the gold is a nearly free by-product of the aggregates operation.

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Re: Found out hiking: is it gold or am I dreaming lol
Posted by: Champ Ferguson
Date: June 29, 2016 08:53AM
Neat story Dave. Looks like the bug bit you early in life.



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