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"In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, birthplace or origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American, and nothing but an American. There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile. We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language. And we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

Theodore Roosevelt, 1907

Maybe next time the terrorists threaten to execute a westerner we issue a counter-threat to draw cartoons of Mohammed. Heck, maybe we've finally found something they value.

Sure doesn't appear to be human life.

Mostly Inspired by Nimrod, 2006

"I consistently believe that when it comes to whether it's Native Americans or African-American issues or reparations, the most important thing for the U.S. government to do is not just offer words, but offer deeds."

Barack Obama (Gee... I wonder what he has in mind for us???)

I find it interesting that you mention the "process of government" and then suggest that the Constitution does not represent today's principles. It seems you have failed to recognize that there is a "process of government" contained within our Constitution that allows for such changes to be made to the Constitution. It is called the amendment process (Article V of the Constitution) and it has been completed 27 times since the Constitution was initially signed.

These 27 changes reflected an evolution in society's beliefs and were LEGALLY accomplished by using that very same "Process of Government", which is made possible by the very same document......our Constitution. It is important to note, however, the Constitution is not a "living" document, nor was it intended to be. Thankfully, our Founding Fathers recognized that principles are what constitute our society.........not the whims of individual politicians or the quest for unbridled authority from the Federal Government.

Articulated by "Digger", 2012

Thomas Jefferson's most famous quotes follow. You're sure to be astonished at how far we've fallen."

"When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe."

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

"It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world."

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government."

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. "

Finally... Thomas Jefferson said in 1802: "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property - until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."

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    Greg (E.Tn) -- 09/25/2004 10:06PM

Greg that is way COOL!....... Image Attachments Views: 263
    Wayne in BC -- 09/25/2004 11:32PM

We should all go somewhere and do something new... That diamond mine in Arkansas would be neat or the WWATS hunt might be cool... Anyone interested? Views: 219
    Guvner.. -- 09/25/2004 10:19PM

Crater of Diamonds State Park Views: 268
    Greg (E.Tn) -- 09/26/2004 10:45AM

Re: We should all go somewhere and do something new... That diamond mine in Arkansas would be neat or the WWATS hunt might be cool... Anyone interested? Image Attachments Views: 256
    Wayne in BC -- 09/26/2004 12:33AM

I've not been reading... What dredge and why am I so close? Views: 246
    Guvner.. -- 09/26/2004 11:31AM

I mean geographicaly close .... Views: 176
    Wayne in BC -- 09/26/2004 06:43PM

You could put my name in the hat. Views: 206
    Greg (E.Tn) -- 09/26/2004 10:46AM

Sure Greg ..... Image Attachments Views: 464
    Wayne in BC -- 09/26/2004 06:47PM

Gosh, this deal just keeps getting better and better! Views: 261
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/26/2004 12:51AM

Thought for the day: "Don't join the book burners. Don't think you are going to conceal thoughts by concealing evidence that they ever existed.-- Dwight David Eisenhower. Good one, eh Guv? Any more room over the bar? Views: 482
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/26/2004 12:15PM

Oops! Dwight ##### Eisenhower. Sorry don't know how that one got past! Views: 137
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/26/2004 03:45PM

A few football photos from today Jpeg Attachments Views: 290
    Nimrod© -- 09/25/2004 11:13PM

What camera did you buy this time? Image Attachments Views: 186
    Guvner.. -- 09/26/2004 11:33AM

Canon 20D Image Attachments Views: 167
    Nimrod© -- 09/26/2004 01:34PM

Re: Canon 20D Views: 162
    John, in Florida -- 09/26/2004 02:22PM

No problem Image Attachments Views: 170
    Nimrod© -- 09/26/2004 02:45PM

The Mavericks are cheating! Image Attachments Views: 239
    Greg (E.Tn) -- 09/26/2004 10:52AM

He's just a high jumper Image Attachments Views: 169
    Nimrod© -- 09/26/2004 01:13PM

Way to go, Nim! Image Attachments Views: 157
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/26/2004 09:54AM

Nah, that's not a good idea Views: 142
    Nimrod© -- 09/26/2004 01:25PM

I was only teasing, Nim, you are absolutely right. Views: 182
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/26/2004 01:34PM

Re: I was only teasing, Nim, you are absolutely right. When we were down at the ponds last... Image Attachments Views: 149
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/26/2004 01:37PM

Those came out real nice, pretty good camera work Nim Views: 158
    General Ray -- 09/26/2004 09:14AM

What kind of teacher would do this? Views: 416
    John, in Florida -- 09/25/2004 11:23PM

The teacher should have... Views: 176
    ArtWI -- 09/26/2004 09:04AM

I guess I would have to know more about it Views: 145
    Royal Ottmar -- 09/26/2004 07:26AM

I have to disagree Sir! Views: 131
    Nimrod© -- 09/26/2004 07:32AM

I bet it finally go the attention of the parents though Image Attachments Views: 147
    Royal Ottmar -- 09/26/2004 11:27AM

That is fine There is little we agree on Views: 130
    Royal Ottmar -- 09/26/2004 11:08AM

That's crap! Image Attachments Views: 139
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/26/2004 09:22AM

Unfortunately... In another time I would have to agree with it... I think a more appropriate method would have been to UPS it to them... Views: 132
    Guvner.. -- 09/26/2004 11:43AM

I was talking to a school teacher in Views: 172
    Royal Ottmar -- 09/26/2004 02:20PM

Well, if it's just an unfortunate incident ... Image Attachments Views: 148
    Nimrod© -- 09/25/2004 11:31PM

John, more food for thought... Image Attachments Views: 264
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/25/2004 01:08AM

Re: food for thought... Views: 161
    John Ripley -- 09/25/2004 12:09PM

That's a good point, John... Views: 162
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/25/2004 02:23PM

Re: ...Crusaders Views: 160
    John Ripley -- 09/25/2004 10:34PM

Hitlers rants... Image Attachments Views: 154
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/26/2004 12:27AM

Re: Hitlers rants... Image Attachments Views: 198
    John Ripley -- 09/26/2004 01:14PM

More like Garbage for the Dumpster Views: 154
    DOC -- 09/25/2004 02:09AM

Hey, I've eaten out of a dumpster before. There's lots of homeless and destitute people that eat out of them every day. A lot of them are Vets. Chew on that. Views: 192
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/25/2004 02:28AM

Re: ...eating out of a dumpster before. Image Attachments Views: 171
    John Ripley -- 09/25/2004 12:31PM

In the end, those that wanted to be helped... Views: 210
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/25/2004 01:51PM

I once went with a girl that was a screaming liberal and Views: 162
    Royal Ottmar -- 09/25/2004 05:45PM

...frustration, and hope Views: 180
    John Ripley -- 09/25/2004 10:17PM

That's much more than a start, John! Views: 180
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/25/2004 10:48PM

Ohhhh... I wish I were a web site forum host... Image Attachments Views: 368
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/25/2004 08:07PM

2 minutes, unsportsmanlike conduct... You're shorthanded... And much more than usual... Views: 122
    Guvner.. -- 09/25/2004 10:07PM

Yeah, with Dave in the penalty box, I've been clearing the puck and penalty killing like crazy. To heck with it, nuthing sweeter than a shorthanded goal. Ready? Views: 140
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/25/2004 10:40PM

BTW, I've started playing the man instead of the zone, so keep your head up. Image Attachments Views: 155
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/25/2004 11:00PM

I always play that way... That should be a given... Image Attachments Views: 142
    Guvner.. -- 09/25/2004 11:02PM

I haven't been paying attention... is the league shut down this year? Image Attachments Views: 131
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/25/2004 11:09PM

The scouting report would make about any GM draft away... So what does it mean?? I just really woke up in the last hour and started walking around.. Views: 175
    Guvner.. -- 09/26/2004 11:29AM

So which is it? Gold or wood tonight? Image Attachments Views: 143
    Nimrod© -- 09/25/2004 08:16PM

Hey George, you posted a pic... Views: 364
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/25/2004 07:32PM

That was at the baby shower, about 10 years after the wedding. Views: 178
    George-Ct -- 09/25/2004 09:01PM

Thats the cleanest high chair I have ever seen!!!! Views: 148
    BEN -- 09/26/2004 09:47AM

I can understand this to some degree, George... Image Attachments Views: 175
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/25/2004 10:24PM

For the most part, all this only becomes a Views: 209
    George-Ct -- 09/26/2004 11:14AM

Whew, I'm running on fumes ... Image Attachments Views: 305
    Nimrod© (AKA NimNuts) -- 09/25/2004 07:34PM

Trouble maker Views: 180
    Royal Ottmar -- 09/25/2004 08:03PM

Moi? Image Attachments Views: 168
    Nimrod© -- 09/25/2004 08:10PM

You seem to have a natural talent, Nim... Image Attachments Views: 169
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/25/2004 07:49PM

Hahahaha! I forgot all about that little ...errr ... incident. Image Attachments Views: 177
    Nimrod© -- 09/25/2004 07:57PM

Thats why women have smaller feet!... Image Attachments Views: 238
    MikeQ (MI) -- 09/26/2004 04:59AM

If Nim had been paying attention in church, he would not have gotten into this "hot water". The Bible is very clear who should do the dishes... 2KINGS 21:13 Image Attachments Views: 210
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/26/2004 09:43AM

I would have went with that Nim... Same system that got you home when you were young and out at the bar... You got to go with your autopilot at times... She should have shut up and taken the darn dishes.. Views: 193
    Guvner.. -- 09/25/2004 10:15PM

Oh, I would have liked to see the look on your face when you were gawking over the camera at them. Priceless. Views: 190
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/25/2004 08:11PM

Yea... You have that liberal Canadian for a governor too Nim.. You'll be seeing a lot more of that... I feel sorry for the kid... They have to just accept it... And probably have been programmed to... Views: 165
    Guvner.. -- 09/25/2004 07:40PM

Canadian Governor? Image Attachments Views: 185
    Nimrod© -- 09/25/2004 08:08PM

That was a collateral bomb Nim... Had nothing to do with your state actually... Image Attachments Views: 175
    Guvner.. -- 09/25/2004 10:11PM

Ohhh.... I wish I were... Image Attachments Views: 173
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/25/2004 07:44PM

Quotable quote: "One cannot and must not try to erase the past merely because it does not fit the present."-Golda Meir Views: 1,666
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/26/2004 01:38AM

Quotable quote: "The past can hurt. But the way I see it, you can either run from it, or learn from it."-Rafiki Views: 213
    Nimrod© -- 09/26/2004 07:28AM

Some weather, huh? That Rafiki is a great actor!:D Views: 212
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/26/2004 09:21AM

Am i being a "Royal" pain in Image Attachments Views: 376
    Wayne in BC -- 09/26/2004 12:04AM

Is that a business proposition, Wayner? Image Attachments Views: 144
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/26/2004 12:30AM

Well for sure bud...... Image Attachments Views: 135
    Wayne in BC -- 09/26/2004 12:44AM

Right now i'm going to bed, i think i'm catching up to Royal..... Image Attachments Views: 153
    Wayne in BC -- 09/26/2004 12:47AM

Yep, I expect you to be out there digging first light tomorrow morning Views: 160
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/26/2004 12:53AM

A little Saturday night humor Views: 370
    Nimrod© -- 09/25/2004 10:09PM

I think that CBS eye has some cataracts... Views: 169
    Guvner.. -- 09/25/2004 10:13PM

Dang, the breeze feels good... Views: 332
    John, in Florida -- 09/25/2004 09:37PM

Ain't this just an all out GREAT story! He's twice as old as most of the dang team and even older than some of the Assistant coaches. We wish him WELL, today! Image Attachments Views: 379
    Art SC -- 09/25/2004 03:14PM

See... Us older folks can play... Image Attachments Views: 172
    Guvner.. -- 09/25/2004 06:17PM

Old farts like to have fun too Image Attachments Views: 162
    Nimrod© (AKA NimNuts) -- 09/25/2004 06:44PM

Not to worry. I saw Roberto Clemente throw out a few guys who thought they had a sure hit. Views: 232
    John, in Florida -- 09/25/2004 08:09PM

Atkins to do it in a hurry... Then keep playing once you are down there and eating again... Views: 150
    Guvner.. -- 09/25/2004 07:10PM

Looks like Florida is getting it really hard again at this hour... No luck this year.. Views: 383
    Guvner.. -- 09/25/2004 07:35PM

Re: Looks like that fine bastion of liberals from New York such as Jim Vokes are about to release John Lennon's killer... Isn't life great? Views: 373
    Guvner.. -- 09/25/2004 07:16PM

Hey Guv... Image Attachments Views: 316
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/25/2004 06:41PM

He's not banned... Views: 159
    Guvner.. -- 09/25/2004 06:58PM

Geeesh, I leave for a minute and the pampered Liberal gets deleted Image Attachments Views: 429
    Royal Ottmar -- 09/24/2004 07:11PM

I liked him better back in the day........... Image Attachments Views: 177
    Greg (E.Tn) -- 09/24/2004 08:51PM

    Jim Vokes -- 09/25/2004 12:40PM

Re: I liked him better back in the day........... Image Attachments Views: 180
    MikeQ (MI) -- 09/25/2004 04:54AM

Not necessarily as a person but as a group they are immoral Views: 159
    Royal Ottmar -- 09/24/2004 09:25PM

"Enabler" is the best name for his type... Views: 175
    Jim Vokes -- 09/25/2004 12:41PM

...that's the best you can come up with, Jim? Seems like a lack of imagination to me. Image Attachments Views: 189
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/25/2004 02:42PM

Dave... You want to play with beating the banned word list.. You just lost every post you ever had on here... Views: 530
    Guvner -- 09/24/2004 07:06PM

Well, I still have my electronic monitoring anklet on. Views: 181
    John, in Florida -- 09/24/2004 09:21PM

Well that kinda put a damper on things... Image Attachments Views: 183
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/24/2004 07:44PM

Dave just likes to shoot off his mouth to get the attention that he does not seem to get anywhere else Views: 183
    Royal Ottmar -- 09/24/2004 09:27PM

Nah, and you've said that before Royal... Image Attachments Views: 208
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/25/2004 01:53AM

$%#&*%@! Celine Dion!! %&*#$!@^*&$%^# Views: 167
    dudephil -- 09/25/2004 09:48AM

I agree with much you say but Views: 237
    Royal Ottmar -- 09/25/2004 07:08AM

GREAT POST!! Views: 200
    Jim Vokes -- 09/25/2004 12:50PM

You dig for the bad, which there is plenty to go around but walk around the good. Views: 171
    Guvner.. -- 09/25/2004 09:34AM

You know Guv, I'm kinda surprised you haven't figured it out yet Image Attachments Views: 195
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/25/2004 10:10AM

Well... Unfortunately or not... This has become a choir and you're the only one ever trying to balance the canoe... So guess what it looks like? Views: 171
    Guvner.. -- 09/25/2004 10:16AM

I give you credit Guv... Image Attachments Views: 157
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/25/2004 10:43AM

I'm not in love with Bush nor do I detest him... Views: 207
    Guvner.. -- 09/25/2004 11:01AM

EXACTLY!!! Views: 158
    Jim Vokes -- 09/25/2004 12:49PM

I'll be glad when the election is over... Image Attachments Views: 182
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/25/2004 11:13AM

I'm in a good mood.. I don't feel I acted inappropriately... I just don't like him showing me how to beat the censors... He did it before so no one gets to read his views till he learns how to use proper english so to speak... Views: 190
    Guvner.. -- 09/24/2004 08:13PM

Heck, I have deleted Royal before, many times Views: 170
    Royal Ottmar -- 09/24/2004 09:28PM

Baaaahahahahahah Gimme the delete Key Gov Image Attachments Views: 169
    Royal Ottmar -- 09/24/2004 07:15PM

That was Dave's second offense Royal... Remember him and John doing this a couple weeks ago... I guess he feels he's privileged... Views: 215
    Guvner -- 09/24/2004 07:21PM

I don't have a problem with it. Delete away. We need controlling from time to time... Views: 195
    Royal Ottmar -- 09/24/2004 09:31PM

I am getting old... I forget Scott even existed.. Views: 178
    Guvner.. -- 09/24/2004 09:38PM

food for thought Views: 314
    John Ripley -- 09/24/2004 08:31PM

Re: the guy with all the ideas Image Attachments Views: 196
    John Ripley -- 09/24/2004 11:05PM

It's a hard decision to make for a leader. Views: 172
    Greg (E.Tn) -- 09/24/2004 08:42PM

Re: hard decisions. Image Attachments Views: 167
    John Ripley -- 09/24/2004 10:38PM

You're preaching to the choir Views: 161
    Greg (E.Tn) -- 09/24/2004 10:45PM

Re: I know, I'm wishing Steve (Can) will take a look at... Image Attachments Views: 143
    John Ripley -- 09/24/2004 10:52PM

Is this the idea, John? Views: 159
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/25/2004 12:38AM

Re: the idea? Views: 185
    John Ripley -- 09/25/2004 11:38AM

Hmmm,,, you thought that was a negative review? Views: 191
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/25/2004 11:51AM

Steve, bad news. Views: 446
    Greg (E.Tn) -- 09/24/2004 10:17PM

well that is sad, Greg... Image Attachments Views: 168
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/25/2004 09:05AM

Me to Steve, that was a great music era Views: 177
    General Ray -- 09/25/2004 09:50AM