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"In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, birthplace or origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American, and nothing but an American. There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile. We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language. And we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

Theodore Roosevelt, 1907


Maybe next time the terrorists threaten to execute a westerner we issue a counter-threat to draw cartoons of Mohammed. Heck, maybe we've finally found something they value.

Sure doesn't appear to be human life.

Mostly Inspired by Nimrod, 2006


"Did you know that illegal immigrants are "counted" as constituents when allocating our House of Representatives? And as such, did you realize that illegal immigrants are actually part of our Electoral College system? Here are the facts: Congressional Districts are based on population, which is determined by the US Census taken every ten years. There are 435 congressional districts in the United States House of Representatives, with each one representing approximately 711,000 people. The Electoral College consists of 538 electors, corresponding to the 435 representatives and 100 senators, plus the three electors for the District of Columbia, as provided by the Twenty-third Amendment. The US Census counts every person, regardless of immigration status. With those facts in mind, it becomes quite obvious that illegal immigrants are being represented in our Congress (and therefore our Electoral College). Based on a reported number of illegal immigrants being somewhere between eleven and twenty million, the illegal population has more representation in Washington DC and the Electoral College than legal citizens in many States or even groups of States. I've written my Senators and Representative, encouraging them to filter the information contained in the US Census, so as to not include illegals in determining the members of our House or Representatives. I've even written a couple news agencies, hoping to shed some light on this. I encourage each of you to write your Senators and Representatives, as well as anyone else who might help expose the truth. Thanks. ."

"Digger" (Copy and paste this to your congressional representatives. They know about it... They need to know you know about them ignoring it!)


I find it interesting that you mention the "process of government" and then suggest that the Constitution does not represent today's principles. It seems you have failed to recognize that there is a "process of government" contained within our Constitution that allows for such changes to be made to the Constitution. It is called the amendment process (Article V of the Constitution) and it has been completed 27 times since the Constitution was initially signed.

These 27 changes reflected an evolution in society's beliefs and were LEGALLY accomplished by using that very same "Process of Government", which is made possible by the very same document......our Constitution. It is important to note, however, the Constitution is not a "living" document, nor was it intended to be. Thankfully, our Founding Fathers recognized that principles are what constitute our society.........not the whims of individual politicians or the quest for unbridled authority from the Federal Government.

Articulated by "Digger", 2012


Thomas Jefferson's most famous quotes follow. You're sure to be astonished at how far we've fallen."

"When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe."

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

"It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world."

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government."

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. "

Finally... Thomas Jefferson said in 1802: "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property - until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."


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Has anyone heard from JB in Mississippi? I understand that storm will possibly dump lots of rain on Mississippi. ......... Image Attachments Views: 501
    Kelley (Texas) -- 09/15/2004 11:45PM

Thanks for the concern Kelly Views: 195
    JB(MS) -- 09/16/2004 05:12AM

Re: Thanks for the concern Kelly Views: 231
    BILL(OR) -- 09/16/2004 06:23PM

Glad to hear you are ok. Lots of people getting hammered this year. Views: 197
    Royal -- 09/16/2004 05:39AM

Edwards is now using scare tactics as well! He is telling the young uneducated voters that if the Democrats win then there will definitely NOT be a DRAFT? HUH?? Dispicable!!! Views: 623
    Jim Vokes NY -- 09/16/2004 12:21PM

He might be right Image Attachments Views: 243
    Royal -- 09/16/2004 04:07PM

Hurricane Jean.....forcasted paths.... Image Attachments Views: 527
    Glen/NY -- 09/16/2004 12:39PM

Wayne sent me this one and I think it is worth passing on to you Views: 612
    Royal -- 09/16/2004 06:53AM

Views: 229
    9inchnails -- 09/16/2004 11:52AM

Oh sure Royal......blame me! Views: 242
    Wayne in BC -- 09/16/2004 10:59AM

Is this just an Internet myth or did John Kerry really misuse a Bibe reference at the DNC convention.... Views: 653
    NealNoINIronBrigade -- 09/15/2004 07:54PM

This man is supposed to be a Catholic who supports abortion .... Seems he holds nothing dear, not even his religion. It's bad enough we had the scandals with the gay pedophile priests, Kerry has to be Catholic too ?? Views: 246
    DOC -- 09/15/2004 09:41PM

It doesn't really matter now, does it?" Image Attachments Views: 244
    Nimrod© -- 09/15/2004 08:16PM

Since we are on the subject, and since you have been quoting poetry... Views: 264
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/15/2004 08:37PM

Jeez Loweez Steve! Image Attachments Views: 249
    Nimrod© -- 09/15/2004 09:20PM

Look like Rush and a poet too? What a guy I must be! Image Attachments Views: 258
    Jim Vokes NY -- 09/16/2004 05:18AM

Hmmm ... point taken Image Attachments Views: 291
    Nimrod© -- 09/16/2004 07:51AM

Who went to ...... Image Attachments Views: 263
    VT Dave -- 09/15/2004 09:39PM

He said with a grin..... Views: 256
    Wayne in BC -- 09/15/2004 11:03PM

I use to fish in Northern Quebec every year.. Here is a picture I thought you might enjoy.. Views: 466
    Jim Vokes NY -- 09/15/2004 10:26AM

Nice haul Jim Views: 305
    General Ray -- 09/15/2004 10:45PM

Very nice Jim! ......the good ol days huh?........ Image Attachments Views: 247
    Wayne in BC -- 09/15/2004 11:14AM

64 and grateful I made it! Health is pretty good and life is great my friend! Views: 235
    Jim Vokes NY -- 09/15/2004 12:57PM

Glad to hear that Jim, i'm not far behind you......the really neat thing is ...... none of us are as old as Royal ....well maybe Bill hee hee Views: 247
    Wayne in BC -- 09/15/2004 06:51PM

Cool fish, and a nice boat too! Image Attachments Views: 256
    Nimrod© -- 09/15/2004 06:26PM

U BAAAD! Views: 260
    Jim Vokes NY -- 09/15/2004 08:53PM

Ya, dem Canuks got some purdy good fish up dere Eh! Views: 282
    VT Dave -- 09/15/2004 12:43PM

##### this place is dead tonight Image Attachments Views: 585
    Nimrod© -- 09/15/2004 07:30PM

Ever Wonder Why? Image Attachments Views: 262
    General Ray -- 09/15/2004 10:35PM

You want to arm wrestle ??? I am right handed, Image Attachments Views: 300
    BJ in Okla. -- 09/15/2004 08:33PM

BJ, you should try using that left arm a little more. Views: 276
    NealNoINIronBrigade -- 09/15/2004 10:05PM

I am ready to go.. lets have at it! Views: 268
    Jim Vokes NY -- 09/15/2004 08:50PM

Hey Greg, you asked earlier about building a birch bark canoe... Views: 522
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/15/2004 03:16PM

Man, I'm so sorry about that. Sorry I asked the question in the first place. Views: 264
    Greg (E.Tn) -- 09/15/2004 06:40PM

Whaddya gonna do, Greg Image Attachments Views: 271
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/15/2004 07:16PM

Oh yeah, I've done that. Views: 274
    Greg (E.Tn) -- 09/15/2004 10:26PM

Steve, kinda like this work of art. Image Attachments Views: 255
    Greg (E.Tn) -- 09/15/2004 06:55PM

Yep, now that's a work of art, Greg Views: 241
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/15/2004 07:17PM

"It would surely be worth the trouble" Image Attachments Views: 267
    Nimrod© -- 09/15/2004 07:17PM

Hey! I found out what C.B.S. stands for.... Views: 477
    VT Dave -- 09/15/2004 09:37PM

And here I always thought it was "See...B.S."! Views: 229
    Art SC -- 09/15/2004 10:12PM

Many years ago, my friend and I had a great day fishing on Senaca Lake, near Geneva, NY. Views: 626
    Jim Vokes NY -- 09/15/2004 10:33AM

Nice fish! Image Attachments Views: 265
    Nimrod© -- 09/15/2004 06:24PM

Oh my.. a compliment! I think? BAHAHAHAHAH! Views: 277
    Jim Vokes NY -- 09/15/2004 08:52PM

Alright guys! This one's going to Letterman. Image Attachments Views: 575
    dudephil -- 09/15/2004 01:50PM

OK, here are the questions ... Image Attachments Views: 263
    Nimrod© -- 09/15/2004 06:57PM

I'll try to answer. Image Attachments Views: 274
    dudephil -- 09/15/2004 07:50PM

Tacking photographs??? Ha I can see it now, Nim, a sign for you for on the sports field! Tacking photographs, for har. Views: 278
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/15/2004 07:30PM

Hey Steve ... I found a nice hat for you to wear on your boat Views: 275
    Nimrod© -- 09/15/2004 07:37PM

BAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!!! Views: 285
    VT Dave -- 09/15/2004 02:17PM

Wow, so many questions ... not sure where to start. Views: 269
    Nimrod© -- 09/15/2004 02:21PM

Look out on a summer's day, with eyes that know the darkness in my soul Views: 781
    Nimrod© -- 09/15/2004 06:03PM

Re: Look out on a summer's day, with eyes that know the darkness in my soul Views: 262
    vatreasureseeker -- 09/15/2004 06:54PM

Ding ding ding ding ding ... we have a winner! Views: 286
    Nimrod© -- 09/15/2004 06:58PM

Ummm.......Steve? Image Attachments Views: 455
    Wayne in BC -- 09/15/2004 09:38AM

Tim Horton's Image Attachments Views: 251
    Nimrod© -- 09/15/2004 06:30PM

Nim .......yer baaad! I hope the Toronto Blue Jays beat up on yer ball team Views: 235
    Wayne in BC -- 09/15/2004 06:34PM

Now that is priceless, Wayner! Doubt if you would win rolling up a mounties rim though... Views: 243
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/15/2004 10:23AM

Didja watch the World Cup of hockey Steve? Mike? Give the Guv a dig in the ribs for me huh? Image Attachments Views: 275
    Wayne in BC -- 09/15/2004 11:09AM

I was just thinking about hockey... Seems something I read yesterday put a sour look on it... Views: 226
    Guvner.. -- 09/15/2004 12:06PM

Behind you 100% Guv ! Views: 272
    Wayne in BC -- 09/15/2004 06:37PM

Missing season ? Image Attachments Views: 243
    Nimrod© -- 09/15/2004 06:36PM

No television Wayne... do not want one either.. Back to work for me too. Catch ya on the flip side.. Steve.....keep up the good work Views: 248
    MB.C. -- 09/15/2004 11:18AM

Hmmmm.....a guy with no "soap watcher" in the house do you give lessons Bud? Views: 295
    Wayne in BC -- 09/15/2004 06:43PM

Hey Wayne.... Image Attachments Views: 265
    VT Dave -- 09/15/2004 02:14PM

Waaay Cool! Thanks Dave Views: 249
    Wayne in BC -- 09/15/2004 06:36PM

Dan Rather might as well retire now. Views: 586
    Greg (E.Tn) -- 09/15/2004 07:31AM

You assume that CBS cares about truthful reporting Image Attachments Views: 216
    Nimrod© -- 09/15/2004 06:31PM

No retirement home for me or my wife!!! Check it out! Views: 557
    Jim Vokes NY -- 09/15/2004 10:37AM

I'm sure there will be an extra charge to change your diaper Views: 267
    Nimrod© -- 09/15/2004 06:21PM

Good idea! Views: 256
    VT Dave -- 09/15/2004 12:39PM

Hey Nim, ya sissy Views: 801
    Royal -- 09/13/2004 06:40PM

Great shot.....Looks like a friendly Views: 274
    George-Ct -- 09/13/2004 08:53PM

Royal, did you take that with your Sony? Image Attachments Views: 271
    Greg (E.Tn) -- 09/13/2004 07:29PM

Yes it is the CD500. The zoom is useless though Views: 289
    Royal -- 09/13/2004 07:30PM

Huh, and you call Bill nuts? Image Attachments Views: 308
    Nimrod© -- 09/13/2004 07:45PM

Re: Huh, and you call Bill nuts? Image Attachments Views: 326
    BILL(OR) -- 09/14/2004 06:51PM

A friend has MS and she uses them too Image Attachments Views: 306
    Royal -- 09/15/2004 08:45AM

I dunno Nim, live bees? Views: 294
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/13/2004 08:03PM

Re: I dunno Nim, live bees? Views: 294
    BILL(OR) -- 09/14/2004 06:54PM

To me it is sorta like metal detecting or bottle hunting Views: 304
    Royal -- 09/13/2004 09:33PM

Re: To me it is sorta like metal detecting or bottle hunting Views: 289
    BILL(OR) -- 09/14/2004 06:57PM

Nope I have never seen one Views: 273
    Royal -- 09/15/2004 08:47AM

I've seen one. Views: 286
    dudephil -- 09/15/2004 10:16AM

I have seen somethng that Views: 382
    Royal -- 09/15/2004 04:30PM

An interesting hobby for sure... Image Attachments Views: 282
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/13/2004 10:09PM

I don't have a good insect book Views: 278
    Royal -- 09/14/2004 05:15AM

Seems Kerry has broken his own gun laws... (It's taken from Newsmax and not Google Steve.. so you can challenge it's accuracy...) Views: 905
    Guvner.. -- 09/12/2004 06:50PM

Look ma, no google search... Image Attachments Views: 323
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/12/2004 07:32PM

I hope you're right... Neighbor came over to find out where I got that nice BushCheney yard sign today.. Views: 377
    Guvner.. -- 09/12/2004 08:14PM

Re: I hope you're right... Neighbor came over to find out where I got that nice BushCheney yard sign today.. Image Attachments Views: 364
    BILL(OR) -- 09/13/2004 10:55AM

You just stand behind you Kerry sign Bill...... Views: 314
    Royal -- 09/13/2004 01:29PM

I've got to agree with you, but with some observations... Views: 340
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/12/2004 09:22PM

some additional observations... Image Attachments Views: 341
    John Ripley -- 09/13/2004 10:03AM

Thanks John, please explain... Views: 328
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/13/2004 11:18AM

Re: please explain... Views: 368
    John Ripley -- 09/13/2004 01:02PM

thanks John, I am at a bit of a loss here... Views: 357
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/13/2004 01:47PM

Re: questions of my own before I proceed with answering you Views: 386
    John Ripley -- 09/14/2004 03:50PM

Hello John... I have posted an answer to your questions at the top of the page as it is starting to get buried here. Views: 293
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/15/2004 01:47AM

Hello Col. Ripley, sorry for being late saying this, but "Welcome to the Forum Sir!" Kelley (Texas) Views: 330
    Kelley (Texas) -- 09/14/2004 08:22PM

...a bit of a loss Views: 328
    John Ripley -- 09/13/2004 03:08PM

Steve, you did not put much, if any effort into verifying what Col. Ripley has posted........ Image Attachments Views: 381
    Kelley (Texas) -- 09/13/2004 08:17PM

I have no doubt that Col Ripley is a very honest, truthful, loyal American... Views: 336
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/13/2004 08:40PM

Re: I have no doubt... Views: 334
    John Ripley -- 09/14/2004 06:38PM

Steve, I have posted where you can obtain a copy of the book, and also where on Google Search......... Image Attachments Views: 331
    Kelley (Texas) -- 09/13/2004 09:38PM

Fred, after answering your post... Image Attachments Views: 324
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/13/2004 10:22PM

Steve, are you interested in this subject or are you just interested in trying to discredit Col. Ripley?........ Image Attachments Views: 319
    Kelley (Texas) -- 09/13/2004 11:07PM

Show me Views: 324
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/13/2004 11:30PM

Steve, you have been provided with sites that will answer your questions about this subject, do what you want with the information! Views: 333
    Kelley (Texas) -- 09/13/2004 11:39PM

As I posted... Views: 327
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/13/2004 11:59PM

Re: As posted... Image Attachments Views: 332
    John Ripley -- 09/14/2004 11:02PM

Oh heck, no John! No down note at all! Image Attachments Views: 383
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/15/2004 02:02AM

You don't really think you stopped his facts over a typo in the name do you? Views: 299
    Guvner.. -- 09/14/2004 12:32AM

Gosh is it just me? A typo??? Image Attachments Views: 291
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/14/2004 12:56AM

My guess is that he doesn't have the title quite right... But you of the flaming liberal type.... Views: 338
    Guvner.. -- 09/14/2004 08:41AM

Guvner, ever notice how Steve is selective in his use of Google Search?........ Image Attachments Views: 309
    Kelley (Texas) -- 09/14/2004 09:57AM

Not sure where you were going with that but knowing you I'm guessing that you think Mr. Kerry knows these lessons and would be the one to share them... I respectfully disagree and ... Views: 325
    Guvner.. -- 09/12/2004 09:45PM

John Kerry made Vietnam an issue...... Image Attachments Views: 334
    Kelley (Texas) -- 09/12/2004 10:09PM

Not going anywhere Guv. It is there at face value for what it is worth. Views: 365
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/12/2004 10:20PM

CBS and Dan Rather need to Apologize ...... Views: 604
    General Ray -- 09/14/2004 10:03PM

He wont as he is better and more intelligent than most of us..... Image Attachments Views: 240
    mayumi12 -- 09/14/2004 11:29PM

Re: another need to apologize ...... Views: 239
    John Ripley -- 09/14/2004 11:21PM

Col. Ripley, the reporter that you are probably talking about, Walter Cronkite ........... Image Attachments Views: 296
    Kelley (Texas) -- 09/14/2004 11:58PM

Take the test Views: 647
    Royal -- 09/12/2004 07:04PM

Hmmmm... Views: 324
    Art SC -- 09/14/2004 09:43PM

It says that I am a Libertarian Image Attachments Views: 305
    Nimrod© -- 09/12/2004 07:18PM

Right/Conservative Views: 287
    MikeQ (MI) -- 09/13/2004 05:45AM

Right - conservative here Views: 310
    Wild Bill -- 09/12/2004 07:48PM

I was .......... Views: 291
    General Ray -- 09/12/2004 10:57PM

Centrist. Views: 287
    dudephil -- 09/12/2004 08:11PM

I was right-conservative also...n/t Views: 317
    BJ in Okla. -- 09/12/2004 10:33PM

Go figure, that's kinda impressive for a little quizz Views: 305
    Steve (CAN) -- 09/12/2004 08:37PM

HAHAHA Views: 332
    General Ray -- 09/12/2004 10:59PM

It says that I am a libertarian. Views: 291
    Kelley (Texas) -- 09/12/2004 09:48PM

Surprise! Image Attachments Views: 278
    Greg (E.Tn) -- 09/12/2004 09:23PM

First one every that didn't label me a right wing conservative... Centrist bordering lib and conservative all at once... Hmmmm... Views: 348
    Guvner.. -- 09/12/2004 09:48PM

Centrist Views: 316
    JB(MS) -- 09/12/2004 09:28PM

For those who do not like to,paddle your own canoe.. Views: 472
    MB.C. -- 09/14/2004 08:25AM

Looks like the" African Queen". Sure you didn't see a scroungy little guy with a lisp, and very proper English lady somewhere on the ferry, Mike??? Views: 336
    Glen/NY -- 09/14/2004 07:54PM

And the drive system.. Views: 269
    MB.C. -- 09/14/2004 08:26AM

Thats cool Views: 317
    General Ray -- 09/14/2004 01:42PM

Wow!! Views: 296
    Greg (E.Tn) -- 09/14/2004 05:13PM

Nice canoe!...... Views: 313
    VT Dave -- 09/14/2004 08:28AM

Pretty nice unit.......... I would like to Views: 336
    George-Ct -- 09/14/2004 10:31AM