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Fisher F19 and Tek G2+ still rocking it

dfmike

Well-known member
Getting back to detecting again. Amen. After using the MX7 and Fors CoRe for the better part of 2019, I decided to get back to the F19 LTD and my newly purchased G2+ for 2020. My F19 has a 2014 serial number and the G2+ is from March 2020. In usage I don't know if I can make out any difference at all between both. Perhaps it's the exact firmware as the original F19, G2+ models. I'm enjoying the grip on the G2+ and I prefer the face plate esthetics.

These photos show the results of two separate hunts (trash items excluded). One hunt was at the beach where both detectors were used and one hunt was at an old school and that one was the G2+ exclusively. At the school I found the usual clad, an SPCA tag and a nice military button. My research tells me that the button was manufactured for Canadian military uniforms and dates back to some time between world war I and II. The relics were also found at the school. I'm not sure what they are for. The big one seems to be made out of brass and the 2 others are more lead like by their bluish tint. The 1906 King Edward large penny was found at the beach which was a surprise. It was in the mud crust under 4-5 inches of sand. It's not in very good shape but at least the date is legible. The yellow and blue dump truck and white Viper were also found there. I also found a very delicate 24 inch .925 chain. It is complete and undamaged. Coil used at the beach was the Detech Ultimate and the MGC 5 X 8 was used at the school to help unmask the goodies in the heavy trash. Great coil by the way ! I used disc mode and disc at zero, gain at 100 and volume at 10 to silence iron. No v-break, no notch.

The F19 and G2+ are very fun and competent detectors to use. Super easy to setup and go. At the risk of repeating myself, as good as they are they could use some updates. Updates that would be useful: A 3 or 4 tone non VCO mode. The ability to use a concentric coil on the machines would definitely be a plus in certain areas. A boost mode or the ability to turn the gain just a tad past maximum would be welcomed as well.

The machines are more than decent at finding our evil Canadian clad as you can see. As you guys probably know, our nickels, dimes and quarters have been made of a nickel plated steel core for some time and it's a challenge for any detector especially when iron is discriminated out. Some detectors that I have used just can't find them. If this can be of use to a fellow Canadian, here is what to look for: When the detector goes over one of these coins, it will often make a ticking noise and on occasion a single or double beep. The ID will hit the 40's or 50's and then drop down in the iron range and go up again. The occasional ID in the 80's or 90's range is a dead giveaway. When you hear that "tic", sweep the coil over the target and if you get the occasional high ID, chances are it's a nickel, dime or quarter. The smaller the coil, the better this works.
 

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Nice finds!! Now wondering if thats why I dont find much of anything in Canadian “silver”, mainly just pennies. Do you know if I leave the upper half of iron in disc open if that would help???
 
Nice finds!! Now wondering if thats why I dont find much of anything in Canadian “silver”, mainly just pennies. Do you know if I leave the upper half of iron in disc open if that would help???
No need to leave the upper half of iron open. On the F19/G2+, even small silver dimes will ID in the 80's. Big silver rings will sometimes ID beyond 90. The ID will be extremely stable on these detectors on any target that is not made of some type of alloy or mixed metals. Our silver dimes will ID at 82. Silver quarters will ID at 86-88. Even our old 5 cent tiny silver "fish scales" will ID at 78.

In an area with lots of pennies from the 40's, 50's and older, keep digging them out and eventually a silver dime will pop up.
 
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Good info to know.... I run an F5 and F75 Ltd SE, I have found a bunch of Can pennies, a couple dimes, a Toonie, and the biggy...... a 1958 Death Dollar! Not surd what the numbers were on the F5 but that Silver Dollar rang way up there! No Cans kn the F75 yet, she is still new...
 
I’ve always loved my gold bug pro since I got it from Tabman. Now I also got the Time ranger Pro. Another iteration of FT 19khz. Love these machines. The air test video I did on the TRP actually really surprised me.
 
DfMike, congrats on your nice finds. I guess it must be some kind of coincidence, I decided that I needed to use my F19 for the first time this year. I am not as familiar with the F19 as I am with the F70, although I have had the F19 for awhile now. The F70 is my primary weapon but I have other detectors. Got out with the F19 today with good results. Once again, congrats on your nice finds, those are some goodies!
 
'dfmike' you had a good outing. Congrats.

I'm with you in wishing they would have a 3-Tone audio and also a Non-VCO option. And I definitely agree with you on the G2+ having the better-feeling physical pakage design. The T2 grip on that crook-neck rod makes it very comfortable to use. That's one of the reasons the Omega 8000 was a favorite Coin Hunting detector .... the comfortable design.

All the best for continued success afield.

Monte
 
'dfmike' you had a good outing. Congrats.

I'm with you in wishing they would have a 3-Tone audio and also a Non-VCO option. And I definitely agree with you on the G2+ having the better-feeling physical pakage design. The T2 grip on that crook-neck rod makes it very comfortable to use. That's one of the reasons the Omega 8000 was a favorite Coin Hunting detector .... the comfortable design.

All the best for continued success afield.

Monte
Nice to hear from you Monte. I find a 3 tone mode almost a necessity when hunting for coins in trashy places. I can do well with 2 tones but it just makes it harder to single them out. I sometimes wonder if a reverse VCO could be made. Volume up for deeper targets and faint signals for surface finds. There's a place where I go where shallow bottle caps abound. There are so many it's almost insane and they are almost all within 2-3 inches from the surface. They have the F19 constantly screaming and trying to hear the faint whisper of deeper and better targets is not an easy task even with good headphones. I found a 1900 large penny and a mercury dime with the F19 that way last year but the cap signals were overwhelming and very tiring. A concentric coil would be a game changer on this machine in an area like this. That's one of the reasons I am hanging on to my MX7. It just ignores most of the bottle caps when coupled with the six shooter.
 
Thanks for all the comments guys.
 
Nice to hear from you Monte. I find a 3 tone mode almost a necessity when hunting for coins in trashy places. I can do well with 2 tones but it just makes it harder to single them out. I sometimes wonder if a reverse VCO could be made. Volume up for deeper targets and faint signals for surface finds. There's a place where I go where shallow bottle caps abound. There are so many it's almost insane and they are almost all within 2-3 inches from the surface. They have the F19 constantly screaming and trying to hear the faint whisper of deeper and better targets is not an easy task even with good headphones. I found a 1900 large penny and a mercury dime with the F19 that way last year but the cap signals were overwhelming and very tiring. A concentric coil would be a game changer on this machine in an area like this. That's one of the reasons I am hanging on to my MX7. It just ignores most of the bottle caps when coupled with the six shooter.
I do like some multi-tone behavior, and different brands and models have their + and - points. Kind of depends on the tone pitch. I like the 3-Tone audio on my CoRe, Relic, and Simplex + models, and the 3-Tone of the XP ORX coin models. With my MX-7 I like the 4-Tone function, and I am comfortable with the 5-Tone audio of the Vanquish 540. I do like to hunt in a 2-Tone function when working a wide-open area with limited targets, such as a plowed field, rangeland, beach area, etc., but the F-19's I've owned (4 of them) just seemed to be 'lacking' in what I needed for many of the densely littered sites I typically hunted.

Bottle Caps are often a bother but I can usually use EPR to isolate them. But I also do better with a round coil and even better with a Concentric coil. I have a friend with an F19 and when I get with him I'm going to try my round Fisher/Teknetics 7" Concentric coil and see how it does on the F19/G2+ models. Going into fall I'll be hunting more picnic areas that have too many Bottle Caps so I'll be finding what works the best for me when I want to ignore them as much as possible.

Monte
 
Good stuff...
For me the f19 is my camp/old site locator...its lite and can swing for long periods of time..multi tone & boost mode would make this a sweet machine..
Would greatly appreciate Monte You letting us know how the 7" concentric coil does on the f19/g2 setup...hh. joe
 
A few years ago, I put the stock elliptical concentric coil from the F5 on the F19 for kicks. It worked as well as any concentric at making most caps invisible. The thing I remember the most out of that combo was how it messed up the excellent stability of my F19. The machine was never designed to use a concentric coil and it was evident when I tried it. I know keithie6 used that same coil on that machine (or a G2 or Goldbug) for some time and seemed to like the results. It's worth a try but I didn't like it myself.
 
VCO is one of the reason's I like the F19. You can really hear the deeper targets.The most underated relic detector I've used. I'am old now. Big screen, lite weight and just enough features to please. Stay safe and well.
 
In some places the VCO renders this detector difficult to use for me. Too many shallow targets such as bottle caps screaming for attention while the deeper and rare goodies can easily go unnoticed with their faint whispers. In very trashy areas this can be an issue.

In places such as this I'm more productive with a non VCO 3 or 4 tone option when searching for old coins. Personal preference I guess.
 
I was out hunting a coin and trash picnic area the other day and worked with several detectors in their 5-Tone, 3-Tone and 2-Tone modes. Some in the processed 3-Tone or 5-Tone functions worked well and I wished the F19's had any option other than they 2-Tone VCO enhanced design. I did enjoy 2-Tone in some of the area, but after using the VCO enhanced 2-Tone on a Nokta, White's and Fisher device, or the Field 1 on the Simplex +, I was very pleased to use the 2-Tone Beach mode on the Simplex + because that mode is not VCO enhanced. I at least have the option with that model of using 2-Tone with or without VCO. It would be nice to see any manufacturer provide a VCO On or Off election on their detectors.

Monte


PS: For those discussing search coils, I used to use a both an elliptical Concentric and 8" round Concentric on my G2, and a year ago I had another F19 and 7" Concentic and I didn't have any messed-up performance or VDI responses.
 
PS: For those discussing search coils, I used to use a both an elliptical Concentric and 8" round Concentric on my G2, and a year ago I had another F19 and 7" Concentic and I didn't have any messed-up performance or VDI responses.

Was that the elliptical concentric that comes stock with the F5 (the open design one) ? I never tried the round ones but the elliptical did not impress me on the F19. I was getting poor depth issues and false signals. The false signals really bothered me as I particularly like this detector for the fact that it never caused a false signal with any DD coil that I have used. Could high ground mineralization be an issue with concentric coils ? I ask this because every detector that gave me false signal issues were equipped with concentric coils. Those were the F44 with the 9" teardrop coil and the Whites MX7 with either the 950 or the six shooter. Coincidence ? Maybe. Unfortunately I can't try either one of those detectors with a DD coil in my area since both are now gone.

That 7" concentric you mentioned comes stock with the F11 ? I should try to get my hands on one and test it. The concentric coils ability to virtually eliminate bottle caps is very handy at times.

Thanks for your input Monte. Always appreciated.
 
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