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hunting rings with CTX or eTrac

pulltabfelix

pulltabfelix

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This is to you guys with CTX experience.

I am giving up hunting Civil War relics for a while and concentrating on finding rings in tot-lots, volleyball courts and old baseball fields. Of course I will take any silver I find, but I am really after rings.

Any hints, suggestions on determining rings from metallic trash? Skippy SH13 Friendly Metal Detecting forum has good luck finding rings in landlocked areas. He uses AT Pro and AT max now.

He states: When you target gold, you consider each piece of trash you come across and rule out anything that is likely NOT to be Gold.

Of course I know rings can ring up from 01 to 36 on the CO scale which makes hunting rings a challenge.

Do you know of any tricks like determining silver coin from clad coin switching between FC & high trash and 50 tones?

Always looking to the experienced CTX users for help.



John
 
pulltabfelix said:
This is to you guys with CTX experience.

I am giving up hunting Civil War relics for a while and concentrating on finding rings in tot-lots, volleyball courts and old baseball fields. Of course I will take any silver I find, but I am really after rings.

Any hints, suggestions on determining rings from metallic trash? Skippy SH13 Friendly Metal Detecting forum has good luck finding rings in landlocked areas. He uses AT Pro and AT max now.

He states: When you target gold, you consider each piece of trash you come across and rule out anything that is likely NOT to be Gold.

Of course I know rings can ring up from 01 to 36 on the CO scale which makes hunting rings a challenge.

Do you know of any tricks like determining silver coin from clad coin switching between FC & high trash and 50 tones?

Always looking to the experienced CTX users for help.



John
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WOW ! If you find that program for the etrac put me on your speed dial list as #1 to call !
Disc out the trash and dig the treasure is what I am working on constantly.
Just digging gold would be ok with me also.
 
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Elmy said:
WOW ! If you find that program for the etrac put me on your speed dial list as #1 to call !
Disc out the trash and dig the treasure is what I am working on constantly.
Just digging gold would be ok with me also.
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Clive said he uses Desantos Beach program for rings. It is on Clive's webs site at the bottom of the page http://www.clivesgoldpage.com/ctx-3030-programs/

I have not tried it but it makes sense. I also read somewhere that you select out maybe one or two squares on your sample of pull tabs and pop tops to make them a little more iffy and supposedly it won't affect a ring signal as much at the same TID. Have not tried either of the above, but will and let you know how they work. I have given up relic hunting in Atlanta and just hunting rings and coins now in tot lots, volley ball courts and old baseball and old soccer fields. Civil War relic hunting in Atlanta is tough. Back in the late 70's and 80's tons of new detectorists really swamped the few Civil War areas you could hunt in Atlanta so other than a few bullets the search for really good CW relics like belt buckles and breast plates. Not any more and more and more areas are private property with expensive homes so permissions are next to impossible to get.
 
To tell silver from clad listen to the tones when you switch. I hunt in ferrous coin then switch to 50 tone high trash. If tone get higher it’s silver if it stays the same it’s clad. I hunt with an open screen.


Go to 10:16 in video and hear the difference in tones. Also know on the I’d numbers behavior of a silver coin and a clad of the same coin. Like in my soil a clad dime will ring up 12:36 and go as high as 12:44. A silver dime will never go down to 12:36.
 
Listen to your tones gold and silver have a more pure sound.

Listen to how the sound pitches up, peaks then pitches down. Trash the sound will warble going up then sound good on the way down. Might sound good going up then drag out going down.

If trash and a good target are close together it will affect the tones. You can usually still get the good target to peak your interest.
 
Most of the gold/silver should display as 12-(varies) as it will depend on the settings of the CTX, since there are differences with Ground Coin or Ferrous Coin vs High Trash or Low Trash settings. I’ve noticed that the signal is always solid for good targets, and I typically switch to no discrimination to check for an iron grunt. I’m also watching the VDI display to see if I’m getting tone on more than one target. I’ve been able to pull good targets out of the same hole as junk due to the visual IDs on the display.

Here is a link that may help with some TIDs for certain rings and targets.
http://metaldetectingforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=188390&stc=1&d=1355272875
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cw3 said:
To tell silver from clad listen to the tones when you switch. I hunt in ferrous coin then switch to 50 tone high trash. If tone get higher it’s silver if it stays the same it’s clad. I hunt with an open screen.


Go to 10:16 in video and hear the difference in tones. Also know on the I’d numbers behavior of a silver coin and a clad of the same coin. Like in my soil a clad dime will ring up 12:36 and go as high as 12:44. A silver dime will never go down to 12:36.
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I suspect there is more than a dime being read there. Those TID numbers are way off for a dime. jm2c
 
It has iron with it.

A contractor used to own my house and burned construction debris in the back yard. It’s full of iron and trash under the grass.

I’ve dug coins with an fe value of 34. That’s why, I run an open screen.
 
5900_XL-1 said:
I suspect there is more than a dime being read there. Those TID numbers are way off for a dime. jm2c
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If you go to 5:47 in the video you can see the iron and I just sat the coil on the ground. Did not even start swinging it yet.

What part of the country you from and what modes you usually run? My soil is mild I’m usually fighting iron everyplace I go.
 
cw3 said:
To tell silver from clad listen to the tones when you switch. I hunt in ferrous coin then switch to 50 tone high trash. If tone get higher it’s silver if it stays the same it’s clad. I hunt with an open screen.


Go to 10:16 in video and hear the difference in tones. Also know on the I’d numbers behavior of a silver coin and a clad of the same coin. Like in my soil a clad dime will ring up 12:36 and go as high as 12:44. A silver dime will never go down to 12:36.
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I have tried to replicate this on my Etrac. Set up a mode with an open pattern with using Separation: Ferrous coins using 50 tone audio. Then set up another mode with open program 50 tones and separation: High Trash. swinging over clad dime with both modes and same tone.
swinging over silver dime with both modes and still same tone.

Maybe I don't know what your settings were on the two modes. Would love this to work.

thanks
 
I have tried to replicate this on my Etrac.

the above was wrong. I don't even have an Etrac, but a CTX3030. Brain Fa*t.
 
I read a lot of back eTrac post because a lot applies to the CTX.
 
Pulltabfelix I answered your pm.

Need to use combined tone profile. Make a box 30 conductive by 29 ferrous. Set that bin to 1200 kHz all others at 75 kHz.

Hunt in ferrous and check signals in high trash 50 tones.

I’m in the iron infested places all the time. These settings have worked very good for me.

If you need more I can do a video on it. The video I posted has part of the info. Or watch Kevin’s video.
 
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