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Observations from an odd hunt

Ronstar

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After pounding the city park and the “vein of coins” I have come to some intetesting observations.

I specifically was hunting in HistoryRevisited’s coinshooting program so this is what I experienced in my conditions. All coins were in the 5-7” range except one quarter and one dime which were 2” or less.
The first old coin was a 1902 IH penny which rang strong 46. Because of this find I started a methodical grid search with this find being ground zero. The nearby 1917 Merc also rang a strong 46 one way and 47 on the return sweep. I dug a couple clad dimes and Memorial pennies which also rang strong 45-46 numbers.
The next two Indians also rang 46 as did another clad dime and a 1910 Wheat and a 1918 wheat. AS DID A BUNCH OF PULLTABS AND BEAVERTAILS.
The three quarters I dug rang 51-52 as did EVERY SINGLE BOTTLE CAP SHOWN.

I know we dig what we dig but this was a lot of work and slow swinging over three days. These bottle caps specifically had clear sharp tones, others had the detectable chirp or tone jump as the coil swept pass. These caps showed full non ferrous while the others had maybe one or two bars ferrous. Have to assume now that not all caps are made of the same materials. The aluminum stuff all hit 45-47 and of course non ferrous. These were dug because pinpoint indicated 5 bars deep as did all the old coins.
Now, I made an observation with some revelation occurring. Where the old coins were had different grass and the ground was moist and easy to dig. Where the scrap was, was for all intent and purposes on the outer edges and much drier and sparser grass growth. Was the better soil/grass fill dirt? There was a five point spread in the manual ground balance numbers, the nicer soil was lower (28-29) as compared to 33-34 for the drier soil.
Could those type ground conditions screw with the VIDs? I wish I could have known what was being dug before it saw light so that I could have made a comparison of settings and numbers or even had a second detector to redo my sweeps.
Im a bit frustrated because the F75 is better at IDing coins vs trash but then again the Legend is finding more coins along with the trash.
BTW, you can literally follow that coin path and thats why I called it a coin vein. Why others didnt find these is only speculation but then who cares cuz I DID. Maybe they notched out the trash numbers not realizing there were coins there too???
Its endless isnt it!
 

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After pounding the city park and the “vein of coins” I have come to some intetesting observations.

I specifically was hunting in HistoryRevisited’s coinshooting program so this is what I experienced in my conditions. All coins were in the 5-7” range except one quarter and one dime which were 2” or less.
The first old coin was a 1902 IH penny which rang strong 46. Because of this find I started a methodical grid search with this find being ground zero. The nearby 1917 Merc also rang a strong 46 one way and 47 on the return sweep. I dug a couple clad dimes and Memorial pennies which also rang strong 45-46 numbers.
The next two Indians also rang 46 as did another clad dime and a 1910 Wheat and a 1918 wheat. AS DID A BUNCH OF PULLTABS AND BEAVERTAILS.
The three quarters I dug rang 51-52 as did EVERY SINGLE BOTTLE CAP SHOWN.

I know we dig what we dig but this was a lot of work and slow swinging over three days. These bottle caps specifically had clear sharp tones, others had the detectable chirp or tone jump as the coil swept pass. These caps showed full non ferrous while the others had maybe one or two bars ferrous. Have to assume now that not all caps are made of the same materials. The aluminum stuff all hit 45-47 and of course non ferrous. These were dug because pinpoint indicated 5 bars deep as did all the old coins.
Now, I made an observation with some revelation occurring. Where the old coins were had different grass and the ground was moist and easy to dig. Where the scrap was, was for all intent and purposes on the outer edges and much drier and sparser grass growth. Was the better soil/grass fill dirt? There was a five point spread in the manual ground balance numbers, the nicer soil was lower (28-29) as compared to 33-34 for the drier soil.
Could those type ground conditions screw with the VIDs? I wish I could have known what was being dug before it saw light so that I could have made a comparison of settings and numbers or even had a second detector to redo my sweeps.
Im a bit frustrated because the F75 is better at IDing coins vs trash but then again the Legend is finding more coins along with the trash.
BTW, you can literally follow that coin path and thats why I called it a coin vein. Why others didnt find these is only speculation but then who cares cuz I DID. Maybe they notched out the trash numbers not realizing there were coins there too???
Its endless isnt it!
As far as the bottle caps go, I read somewhere that bottle caps are coated with non ferris paint. That could be the reason for showing full non ferris. Where as the caps showing one or two bars could be rusting exposing more iron. Just a thought.
 
Interesting idea non ferrous paint/coating….
If you look at the bottle caps photo there are a couple old rusty caps on the bottom, none showed the rusty orange in the dirt around them. Also the very bottom item is a shirt pin/button but cant read whats on it and its aluminum I think. It was slightly bigger than a quarter.
I did have some zincs at 43-44 but otherwise all other trash type items were in the 30s.
Taking F75 with Sharpshooter back in there tomorrow morning, let ya all know soon.
 
I think the newer trash might be harder to avoid. The metal composition seems to have changed from what it was years ago. Bottle caps don't rust as easily for sure.
Looking forward to how the F75 hunts for you.
 
Nice hunt Ron, just think about how much better you are now at metal detecting than when you started?
This constant research and practice is how we get better.
Most people are cherry pickers and that's why they miss the deeper/ masked coins.
Don't forget about the going in circles pattern, this is definitely a good way to get some different angles.
 
Was hoping to get in today with the F75 but now unable to break free and looks like rain starting tomorrow thru Monday. Maybe wetter ground might poke up some more treasures!
 
Nice hunt Ron, just think about how much better you are now at metal detecting than when you started?
This constant research and practice is how we get better.
Most people are cherry pickers and that's why they miss the deeper/ masked coins.
Don't forget about the going in circles pattern, this is definitely a good way to get some different angles.
They say digging everything is the best way to learn
 
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