What are your thoughts ?

Odanscoils said:

What are your thoughts ?

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Kindly I'd say he needs to go to a decent church and learn the Bible.
Have a listen to this in Regards to Mystery Babylon.

Very nicely put to sum it all up the answer is in John 3: verses 16-19; If you are saved you will be in the Rapture of the church in 1 thessalonians 4: verses 13 -18.This world is heading to HELL in a hang basket all you have to do is LOOK around to what is happening its opening the door for the ANTICHRIST!We are headed to a one world government its just a matter of time.After the Rapture of the church the holy spirit will be taken away and the antichrist will enter.Read 2 Thess.chapter 2 verses 3--12.

If you look around there is a war on humans they want us dead ! Gods creation ..Why do you think they promote homosexuality transgender they can't reproduce!
Mark

so tell me, where did you acquire the picture you labeled "you and whose army?"

You know the issue i see and perhaps someone can explain it.
Went to catholic school my whole childhood life. Became born again ata Baptist church soon after and throughout the years have attended many different denominations and nondenominational churches.
The most judgmental and condescending people i have met were in these churches. No offense to anyone here but for example asked the Baptist church if i could help out around the church for free, the elder in charge told me no, but it happens that he owns a business that did maintenance and work around the church for a fee he charged the church of course. In other words he would lose out on money if i did a job he was getting paid for. Many other churches the pastor would literally put down other churches and people especially catholics.
The last one got the pastor position at one of local hospitals to visit patients. He told everyone in church when he would look at the info in the patient and seen they were a catholic he would cringe and if he walked in as soon as the patient would say anything negative he would just say “ good luck” and walk out.
I can give many examples like this and wonder if they truly followed the bible and word of god would they not love, be kind and not judge people. The hypocrisy of not practicing what you preach is just over the top.
Because I have tattoos am looked down upon. I have been told it’s not just me.
I live where there is some type of church just about every couple of miles.
And they are all the same from what i seen. Perhaps in a different state lol they might be different but ide rather just stay home and read the Bible and pray.
Actually the Catholic Church is probably the least judgmental out of all of them. Not as intense but also not as judgmental.
Two ways of thinking
The Lord is liove and you should be loving, forgiving and believe in redemption
The Lord is just and he sets the rules you break any and and are condemned to hell
Should be a combination of both but unfortunately most just go with the lord is just except when it comes to them

Hopefully this won't offend anyone.
I've always believed the Catholic religion was created to regain control of Rome by Constantine.

Odan people can go round and round forever debating what they believe. They actually have for thousands of years.
Who is right do we really know.
Its not just one christian denomination and another.its all religions or lack thereof.
An omnist is someone who believes in all religions or lack thereof.
If you are ok with whatever someone believes then you won’t offend them.
It when someone tries to force their beliefs on someone else and set a precedent that they are wrong is when you will have controversy.

Unfortunately, many of today's Christians and churches believe in the adage Hate the sin and not the sinner which allows those of a perverted inclination to be accepted by the church. I believe those that have perverted inclinations should have to prove they are worthy of GOD'S graces by being first baptized and then join the church body. Unfortunately, those so inclined are not going to change and look at Christians acceptance as weakness. Christians need to remind those sinners that GOD not only destroyed the dwelling places but the sinners in his retribution and judgement on them.

Grunter said:

Unfortunately, many of today's Christians and churches believe in the adage Hate the sin and not the sinner which allows those of a perverted inclination to be accepted by the church. I believe those that have perverted inclinations should have to prove they are worthy of GOD'S graces by being first baptized and then join the church body. Unfortunately, those so inclined are not going to change and look at Christians acceptance as weakness. Christians need to remind those sinners that GOD not only destroyed the dwelling places but the sinners in his retribution and judgement on them.

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So how do you choose who to accept as we are all sinners?Unless some see themselves as perfect in Gods eyes and cast all others away. Not how it’s supposed to be done but what criteria meets acceptance?
To use your phrase “ perverted inclinations” who determines who has perverted inclinations and who doesn’t.
Is it not personal opinion then over Gods will.
I thought according to the Bible anyway all those who seek him shall be accepted.
Does it say otherwise that a church body shall determine who is accepted or not and cast away those who they determine who can accept God or not.
Heck just form a church body lock the doors and execute anyone who tries to enter.
Or wait I thought we were against the tyranny of the Roman Empire
Not trying to offend anyone but i actually did get baptized, twice, once after i was born and again in a baptist church in my young adulthood where i joined the church body and was cast away because some did not like my tattoos.
So i ask again what does it take?

Again don’t mean to offend anyone but i just don’t understand. Personally speaking i have done everything i was supposed to do. Not saying everyone in a church was the same way but when it comes to say the elders and certain people within a close circle, let me just put it this way, many just don’t want someone who looks like they were in a rock band or a biker included in their church. What does this tell me that your appearance determines weather you fit in or not. Dont get me wrong i have never felt like i had to “fit in” but the sheer hypocrisy and judgement is appalling.
Does it say in the Bible you have to look a certain way or dress a certain way to be accepted.
Bottom line unless someone can give a logical explanation, you are judged based on your appearance weather some people in a church will accept you. Unfortunately its not just in church its society as well.

DigDog said:

So how do you choose who to accept as we are all sinners?Unless some see themselves as perfect in Gods eyes and cast all others away. Not how it’s supposed to be done but what criteria meets acceptance?
To use your phrase “ perverted inclinations” who determines who has perverted inclinations and who doesn’t.
Is it not personal opinion then over Gods will.
I thought according to the Bible anyway all those who seek him shall be accepted.
Does it say otherwise that a church body shall determine who is accepted or not and cast away those who they determine who can accept God or not.
Heck just form a church body lock the doors and execute anyone who tries to enter.
Or wait I thought we were against the tyranny of the Roman Empire
Not trying to offend anyone but i actually did get baptized, twice, once after i was born and again in a baptist church in my young adulthood where i joined the church body and was cast away because some did not like my tattoos.
So i ask again what does it take?

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You have to completely submit your will to GOD's will and become one with the body of CHRIST. The Christian church represents the body of CHRIST and not any one church body, or any one denomination. Yes, we are all sinners saved by grace but to join the body of CHRIST and to continue with wordily lusts and fornications is an abomination to CHRIST's reason for dying on the cross and an abomination to GOD's will that he sent his son to die for our transgressions. GOD destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah and not the church.

Grunter said:

You have to completely submit your will to GOD's will and become one with the body of CHRIST. The Christian church represents the body of CHRIST and not any one church body, or any one denomination. Yes, we are all sinners saved by grace but to join the body of CHRIST and to continue with wordily lusts and fornications is an abomination to CHRIST's reason for dying on the cross and an abomination to GOD's will that he sent his son to die for our transgressions. GOD destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah and not the church.

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Let me ask you this. Do we have to join a physical church or can our church be at home. Each church has a different way if worshiping so what is the difference then

DigDog said:

Let me ask you this. Do we have to join a physical church or can our church be at home. Each church has a different way if worshiping so what is the difference then

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Going to church gives you the opportunity to share your belief with others and it should strengthen your beliefs and provide you with an opportunity to confess the LORD GOD publicly and your expression of faith may touch another soul that is lost and searching. The bible states that where 2 or more are gathered in his name HE is there also. Don't go to church for the people, the church or its programs, go for your one-on-one relationship with JESUS CHRIST our LORD and SAVIOUR.