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Seriously a little ticked rite now

oldkoot

Well-known member
as everyone knows I have been testing the 1.10 Beta Test versions on one of my two Legends, so when Version 3 came out I decided to install it also

here is why I am seriously ticked it is not the fact that Nokta came out with a third beta test version but the fact when I went to do the install of the 1.10 version 3, prior to down loading the 1.10 Beta Test version 3, I checked the previous update tool which I used to install the 1.10 Beta Test version 2, which had both the version 1 and version 2 in it (KEEP IN MIND) the 1.10 Beta Test Version 3 was already there before I ever even downloaded it D) this was all prior to downloading the Version 3, the day I decided to download and install the version 3 when I checked the updater tool that was on my PC the two previous Versions 1 an 2 were no longer in that updater tool they had been replaced with version 3 without me having to download version 3 from Nokta's site

here is what is ticking me off how in the heck can a new version already be in a previous update tool if It had not been downloaded yet
one of the key things that is stated when you download these new updates by Nokta is to shut down your firewalls and Anti Virus protection prior to downloading, but in this case my fire walls and anti virus protection meant absolutely nothing and this is what is upsetting me, it would seem to me that Nokta has found a way to supersede Virus protections and firewalls, I do not believe this is intentional by Nokta but it is pretty concerning to me that the 1.10 Beta Test Version 3 was already in my PC before even downloading it
 
So im a little confused.
They happen to have version 3 in the update tool for versions 1 and 2.
So when you used the update tool for version 2 it downloaded version 3 instead?
I suppose if they were replacing version 2 with 3 they just put it in the same update tool?
I guess not a big deal as they want you to have the latest version anyway?
Why would someone want to install version 2 anyway if 3 is the latest ?
Kind of like having 1.05 and you want to upgrade but want 1.07 instead of 1.09. Or am i looking at it wrong
 
as everyone knows I have been testing the 1.10 Beta Test versions on one of my two Legends, so when Version 3 came out I decided to install it also

here is why I am seriously ticked it is not the fact that Nokta came out with a third beta test version but the fact when I went to do the install of the 1.10 version 3, prior to down loading the 1.10 Beta Test version 3, I checked the previous update tool which I used to install the 1.10 Beta Test version 2, which had both the version 1 and version 2 in it (KEEP IN MIND) the 1.10 Beta Test Version 3 was already there before I ever even downloaded it D) this was all prior to downloading the Version 3, the day I decided to download and install the version 3 when I checked the updater tool that was on my PC the two previous Versions 1 an 2 were no longer in that updater tool they had been replaced with version 3 without me having to download version 3 from Nokta's site

here is what is ticking me off how in the heck can a new version already be in a previous update tool if It had not been downloaded yet
one of the key things that is stated when you download these new updates by Nokta is to shut down your firewalls and Anti Virus protection prior to downloading, but in this case my fire walls and anti virus protection meant absolutely nothing and this is what is upsetting me, it would seem to me that Nokta has found a way to supersede Virus protections and firewalls, I do not believe this is intentional by Nokta but it is pretty concerning to me that the 1.10 Beta Test Version 3 was already in my PC before even downloading it
I don't like it erased version 1&2.
What if you liked them better and wanted to reload.
Like how I prefer 2.77 on my Simplex.
Can't wait for your evaluation.
 
So im a little confused.
They happen to have version 3 in the update tool for versions 1 and 2.
So when you used the update tool for version 2 it downloaded version 3 instead?
I suppose if they were replacing version 2 with 3 they just put it in the same update tool?
I guess not a big deal as they want you to have the latest version anyway?
Why would someone want to install version 2 anyway if 3 is the latest ?
Kind of like having 1.05 and you want to upgrade but want 1.07 instead of 1.09. Or am i looking at it wrong
you are missing the point before I ever even downloaded version 3 the version 3 was already in the previous updater toll which I used for version 1 and 2 with out even having to download it version 3 was there and version 1 an 2 were gone, nothing and I mean nothing like what I am stating should ever be done with out someones expressed permissions, Nokta did not have my permission to just put something on my PC and remove two other things.

all of the past updates and I repeat all of the past updates we always had to go in and download them from the Nokta site but that is not the case with this 1.10 Beta Test Version 3 it just out of the blue apears in your PC with out your permission

DigDog if you have downloaded versions 1 and 2 and have them saved to your PC and have not downloaded the 1.10 Version 3 connect your Legend to the updater tool that has or had Versions 1 and two and you will see what I am talking about versions 1 and 2 are most Likely no longer in that previous update tool and have been replaced with Version 3 to me when that was done what if they were able to get into your banking stuff on you PC they obviously got past the firewalls that are set up and the anti Virus protection with out me or any one else giving expressed permissions so yeah I am pretty ticked rite now

like I stated in my initial post one of the first things when you go to download a new update on Nokta's site they tell you to shut down all fire walls and anti virus protections, but in the case of 1.10 beta test version 3 thhis was not the case even though when you go to download the V3 it still states to shut down your firewalls and anti virus.
 
I don't like it erased version 1&2.
What if you liked them better and wanted to reload.
Like how I prefer 2.77 on my Simplex.
Can't wait for your evaluation.
Well they were all just beta test versions.
So i think anyway you either stick with using 1.09 or wait until the final 1.11 is released
The final version is going to have everything you like in any of the beta versions 1,2, and 3 just as version 3 will have everything you wanted in version 2 just don’t use any of the added features similar to 1.09 has everything 1.07 had and then some but you don’t have to use everything no?
 
you are missing the point before I ever even downloaded version 3 the version 3 was already in the previous updater toll which I used for version 1 and 2 with out even having to download it version 3 was there and version 1 an 2 were gone, nothing and I mean nothing like what I am stating should ever be done with out someones expressed permissions, Nokta did not have my permission to just put something on my PC and remove two other things.

all of the past updates and I repeat all of the past updates we always had to go in and download them from the Nokta site but that is not the case with this 1.10 Beta Test Version 3 it just out of the blue apears in your PC with out your permission

DigDog if you have downloaded versions 1 and 2 and have them saved to your PC and have not downloaded the 1.10 Version 3 connect your Legend to the updater tool that has or had Versions 1 and two and you will see what I am talking about versions 1 and 2 are most Likely no longer in that previous update tool and have been replaced with Version 3 to me when that was done what if they were able to get into your banking stuff on you PC they obviously got past the firewalls that are set up and the anti Virus protection with out me or any one else giving expressed permissions so yeah I am pretty ticked rite now

like I stated in my initial post one of the first things when you go to download a new update on Nokta's site they tell you to shut down all fire walls and anti virus protections, but in the case of 1.10 beta test version 3 thhis was not the case even though when you go to download the V3 it still states to shut down your firewalls and anti virus.
I have 1.09 still and did not update anything was waiting for the final version but i see your point now more of a security concern as far as putting something on your computer without your acknowledgment.
 
I don't like it erased version 1&2.
What if you liked them better and wanted to reload.
Like how I prefer 2.77 on my Simplex.
Can't wait for your evaluation.
I do not like this whole thing, if Nokta or Dilek would have said (hey just a heads up there is no need to go download V3 because it will already be there in the update tool) would have been better than it just all of a sudden being there, without downloading for me it makes it look like they are getting into your PC behind the scenes with out permission and I am not saying that is the case but it is awfully fishy to me. I have firewalls and anti virus on my PC for a reason to protect the info that is on my PC.
 
Well they were all just beta test versions.
So i think anyway you either stick with using 1.09 or wait until the final 1.11 is released
The final version is going to have everything you like in any of the beta versions 1,2, and 3 just as version 3 will have everything you wanted in version 2 just don’t use any of the added features similar to 1.09 has everything 1.07 had and then some but you don’t have to use everything no?
Dude you are still missing my point ( It is not ok for a company to just install or download anything on someones PC with out you knowing it.)
 
I have 1.09 still and did not update anything was waiting for the final version but i see your point now more of a security concern as far as putting something on your computer without your acknowledgment.
EXACTLY,
it would be like a total stranger going into your bank and telling the teller hey give me $5000 out of DigDogs bank account pretty much and the teller just handing it over with out going through the security protocols LOL and you noticed I used your handle and not your actual name, but to me it is the same thing LOL
 
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If you download something and hit "run" aren't you giving whoever created what you have downloaded inherent permission to put it in your computer?
Kind of like if you don't like what is being said in a thread , don't read it!
 
If you download something and hit "run" aren't you giving whoever created what you have downloaded inherent permission to put it in your computer?
Kind of like if you don't like what is being said in a thread , don't read it!
You are absolutely correct accept for one thing and you obviously did not read my whole post.
I had not given Nokta Permission to put the 1.10 Beta test version 3 on my PC you need to go back and read what I actually stated in my initial post instead of just scanning quickly through it actually read it.

the 1.10 Beta Test Version 3 was just there without me downloading it to my PC
 
You are absolutely correct accept for one thing and you obviously did not read my whole post.
I had not given Nokta Permission to put the 1.10 Beta test version 3 on my PC you need to go back and read what I actually stated in my initial post instead of just scanning quickly through it actually read it.

the 1.10 Beta Test Version 3 was just there without me downloading it to my PC
Definitely disturbing.
Obviously there's an auto download in that app.
That apparently executes on re connection with their site. Wondering if that's mentioned as part of the beta testing platform.
Hopefully it doesn't do this anytime you connect with the net.
I definitely do Not like them erasing previous versions though.
I may of preferred an earlier version.
 
LOL , I read the whole thing but was so confused I cut to the chase and surmised that something was downloaded into your
PC before you knew it , which is probably exactly what happened. If you no longer have to disable your anti-virus and firewall to download the updates , that is a giant feather in Nokta's cap and more power to them. I guess if you just want to download one portion or segment of the updates and stay there it will require some additional technical computer skills. Perhaps you can install the whole update then go back and disable what you wish to leave behind. Almost sounds like I know what I'm talking about but I don't.:rolleyes:
 
I do not like this whole thing, if Nokta or Dilek would have said (hey just a heads up there is no need to go download V3 because it will already be there in the update tool) would have been better than it just all of a sudden being there, without downloading for me it makes it look like they are getting into your PC behind the scenes with out permission and I am not saying that is the case but it is awfully fishy to me. I have firewalls and anti virus on my PC for a reason to protect the info that is on my PC.
Have you reached out to Nokta and asked about this, I wonder what they would have to say about it,

I just checked my downloads as I updated my legend to 1.10-2 and 1.10-3 does not appear to be there in my downloads folder
 
Have you reached out to Nokta and asked about this, I wonder what they would have to say about it,

I just checked my downloads as I updated my legend to 1.10-2 and 1.10-3 does not appear to be there in my downloads folder


how long ago did you download and install 1.10 version 2, because I can tell you V2 is no longer available for download and I would almost be willing to bet you that if you open the updater tool that is currently on your PC that the 1.10 version 2 is no longer there and has been replaced with 1.10 version 3 without you even knowing it, it does not take long to find out just boot up the updater tool and go through the process as if you are going to do the update and see which versions are there, if yours has not changed you will be able to select which version from 1.05-Beta test version 2 just do tel the updater tool to update, and in fact if you do not mind I would appreciate it if you would check and report back

No sir I have not reached out to Nokta about this, i figure it is best that I calm down a bit so I do not say anythiing to them that I would regret saying LOL

all I am telling people is what mine did I had the 1.10 beta Test versions 1 and 2 on my PC and both were there in the last updater tool I could go back and forth to either of the Beta test versions then the 1.10 Beta test version 3 came out, I went into the updater tool that had the V1 and V2 in it by connecting my Legend V2 and V1 was no longer there they had been replace by Version 3, the files for V1 and V2 are completely gone in my PC and a new file for Version 3 is now there

I would like an explanation from Nokta as to how this happened with out me downloading 1.10 Beta Test version 3, do I believe there was any bad intentions by Nokta (Absolutely Not).

it is just troublesome to me that it was done Automatically rather than having to download the version 3 like we have had to do with each and every other new update none and i repeat none of the past updates just magically appeared on our PCs
 
LOL , I read the whole thing but was so confused I cut to the chase and surmised that something was downloaded into your
PC before you knew it , which is probably exactly what happened. If you no longer have to disable your anti-virus and firewall to download the updates , that is a giant feather in Nokta's cap and more power to them. I guess if you just want to download one portion or segment of the updates and stay there it will require some additional technical computer skills. Perhaps you can install the whole update then go back and disable what you wish to leave behind. Almost sounds like I know what I'm talking about but I don't.:rolleyes:
You are correct it was there with out my Knowledge and consent.
 
Definitely disturbing.
Obviously there's an auto download in that app.
That apparently executes on re connection with their site. Wondering if that's mentioned as part of the beta testing platform.
Hopefully it doesn't do this anytime you connect with the net.
I definitely do Not like them erasing previous versions though.
I may of preferred an earlier version.
it is vary much disturbing to think that at any time some one can just add things to your PC with out your expressed permission or knowledge
 
Definitely disturbing.
Obviously there's an auto download in that app.
That apparently executes on re connection with their site. Wondering if that's mentioned as part of the beta testing platform.
Hopefully it doesn't do this anytime you connect with the net.
I definitely do Not like them erasing previous versions though.
I may of preferred an earlier version.
what upsets me is this

the PC that I have to use to do the new updates on is my desk top PC which is a windows 10 is my Business PC it is the only PC I have that will let the updates go through, I run a accounting and tax prep business off that PC I have well over 1000 peoples personal info on that PC, so I have to take all kinds of security measures to prevent security breaches and hackers from getting peoples personal info which I do not skimp on security measures because of the data that is on my PC, I do have a windows 11 Lap top but for some unknown reason the updates will not work on my windows 11 Lap top, so yes it is troublesome to me, I am not saying that Nokta would do anything but by this turn of events with now not having to download the updates our selves and them just appearing out of the blue unbeknownst to someone it is var vary troublesome, if Nokta can get stuff in without someones knowledge who else can get in
 
I guess when at first when downloading the update tool, and the security window comes up and asks you, yes or no, if you want to give them permission to run the program, you're giving them more permission than what you're considering, if they can go in and update the update tool that's already in place. Wow, I guess I'm wasting my time when I go through my program folders deleting files when they have the ability to update them without me even knowing. Maybe I should still delete the files anyway. Yeah, I never thought that when I first gave them permission to run that they could still have access to go in without me knowing and update files. Does that mean that if I would have left the update, installation files on my computer, that it would change from 1.10 to 1.11 when it finally comes out. Hey, I'd be the first to know, but at what expense? 😲
Back when my parents said I could have a cookie out of the jar, it didn't mean that I could have everything that was in the jar, or get back into it whenever I wanted. 🤣
 
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