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I wish xp made a 6 0r 7 inch coil for D2

The Coin Magician

The Coin Magician

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I find that my D2 can struggle on fields with modern junk in abundance underground. Who else thinks a small coil would make this a killer detector in modern junk.
 
They are the only one’s basically that don’t have a small sniper coil, 6” for example but they are the only ones where the electronics and batteries are in the coil.
Probably hard to fit all that into such a small unit without it being really expensive. Look at the 9” coil and the battery compartment in comparison to the size now subtract 3 more inches from the overall size. Would have to reconstruct everything including the batteries. I don’t suppose a 30% smaller coil uses 30% less battery but i could be wrong.
Would you pay something like $699 just for a 6” coil if that were the case
 
DigDog said:
They are the only one’s basically that don’t have a small sniper coil, 6” for example but they are the only ones where the electronics and batteries are in the coil.
Probably hard to fit all that into such a small unit without it being really expensive. Look at the 9” coil and the battery compartment in comparison to the size now subtract 3 more inches from the overall size. Would have to reconstruct everything including the batteries. I don’t suppose a 30% smaller coil uses 30% less battery but i could be wrong.
Would you pay something like $699 just for a 6” coil if that were the case
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If they can fit a battery in the headphone they can fit one in a 6” coil
 
I would think the coil uses alot more power and needs a much bigger capacity battery than the headphones.
Apple earbuds use a minuscule battery for example but they are not enough power to run the iPhone.
I would think they already use as small of a battery possible as batteries are heavy
Can they invent a smaller battery, possibly, but again that requires alot more money which equals much more expensive coil as to my question would you pay $699 for a 6” coil
I could be wrong. Maybe an engineer can comment on the possibilities
 
Yes making the coil taller would probably be the best option
Again if you look at the 9” its not the slimmest coil either. Its pretty close to 1” thick because of the battery.
I suppose they could make a 6” coil about 2” thick
 
DigDog said:
They are the only one’s basically that don’t have a small sniper coil, 6” for example but they are the only ones where the electronics and batteries are in the coil.
Probably hard to fit all that into such a small unit without it being really expensive. Look at the 9” coil and the battery compartment in comparison to the size now subtract 3 more inches from the overall size. Would have to reconstruct everything including the batteries. I don’t suppose a 30% smaller coil uses 30% less battery but i could be wrong.
Would you pay something like $699 just for a 6” coil if that were the case
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They could mount the battery on top of the coil to solve one issue
Tony
 
DigDog said:
I would think the coil uses alot more power and needs a much bigger capacity battery than the headphones.
Apple earbuds use a minuscule battery for example but they are not enough power to run the iPhone.
I would think they already use as small of a battery possible as batteries are heavy
Can they invent a smaller battery, possibly, but again that requires alot more money which equals much more expensive coil as to my question would you pay $699 for a 6” coil
I could be wrong. Maybe an engineer can comment on the possibilities
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The battery in the Deus headphone is the same size battery in remote and coil, there’s only one size battery.
 
I think it is interesting they can even make a coil that includes anything else inside the windings and still be able to detect an ear rind back inches down in the soil. I’m sure research and development has worked it and they know the limits. Yet anything is possible , so the proverbial “they” say.
 
DW-BGW said:
I’m pretty sure it was mentioned before, they could always put the battery in the shaft like they do for the HF coils
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I like the 9” I think it’s a perfect size I wish all the batteries were in the shaft as for me I will not use my D2 in the water I hate the antenna setup!
Mark
 
Listener said:
I think it is interesting they can even make a coil that includes anything else inside the windings and still be able to detect an ear rind back inches down in the soil. I’m sure research and development has worked it and they know the limits. Yet anything is possible , so the proverbial “they” say.
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I always thought the same how is the battery not effecting the coil?
Mark
 
Strange, have to have all plastic to fasten the shaft to coil I thought was because of interference but yet not only the battery but the metal contacts to charge .
Maybe it never really mattered to begin with or they figured out a way around it.
Also strange that the batteries in the headsets, coil, and remote are all the same size
 
I reckon they have found the null zone with the flux lines emitted from the coil or it would pick up the battery or the circuitry. I wonder too when some report of their machine being jittery if maybe there is a leak (exposed) area in the shielding that is the cause of emi. Can all coils be manufactured 100 % defect free?
Of the ones where the battery is in the stem, it is placed high up and probably out of range to the flux pattern. IMO only, not a coil expert and my thoughts only.
 
DigDog said:
Strange, have to have all plastic to fasten the shaft to coil I thought was because of interference but yet not only the battery but the metal contacts to charge .
Maybe it never really mattered to begin with or they figured out a way around it.
Also strange that the batteries in the headsets, coil, and remote are all the same size
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Guess you haven’t changed the batteries in the remote or headphone yet. Coil I would send away.
 
beau61 said:
The battery in the Deus headphone is the same size battery in remote and coil, there’s only one size battery.
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So nobody gets confused and orders the wrong batteries, I thought the batteries were different.
This is right from the manual from XP
Maybe they are the same on the D1 but on the D2 they are definitely smaller in the headphones than the coil.
Half the mah and weight.
 

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Listener said:
I reckon they have found the null zone with the flux lines emitted from the coil or it would pick up the battery or the circuitry. I wonder too when some report of their machine being jittery if maybe there is a leak (exposed) area in the shielding that is the cause of emi. Can all coils be manufactured 100 % defect free?
Of the ones where the battery is in the stem, it is placed high up and probably out of range to the flux pattern. IMO only, not a coil expert and my thoughts only.
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Well maybe they test everyone before they leave the factory?
Mark
 
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