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Re: Explorers vs. the E-Trac; my first experiences, and a question... Posted by: Ray-Mo.
Date: December 06, 2011 09:47AM |
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Charles (Upstate NY)
So far in the field the ETrac has come in 2nd place behind my Explorer SE with SE Pro coil. We were out last week going head to head on tiny targets and deeeeep coins, Etract got its share, it did well but could not match the Explorer on several targets.
Re: Explorers vs. the E-Trac; my first experiences, and a question... Posted by: Charles (Upstate NY)
Date: December 06, 2011 06:47PM |
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sgoss66
This is great stuff, guys. Etrac Tom, thanks much for the advice. Using the E-Trac is definitely an interesting experiment...
Charles -- a question...can you elaborate on this statement you made?
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For example why does the machine decide silver and gold targets are iron and position them way over on the iron side of the screen and tell me not to dig them when I know for a fact they are not iron or ferrous having confirmed this by digging gobs of them?
Can you give me an example of a silver target that your Explorer wants to put on the "iron side of the screen" (i.e. high FE numbers) that, instead, you know you need to dig? What is it that tells you you need to dig that target that your Explorer says is "iron?" I'm at the stage of learning now where I'm trying to learn to dig these "machine calls them iron but they are really silver" type targets, and it's been a "slow climb up the mountain" for me, in terms of learning how to do it. Yes, I can "look down" now, and see that I have "climbed quite aways up," but when I look up, that mountain peak still towers above me!
Steve
Re: Explorers vs. the E-Trac; my first experiences, and a question... Posted by: Charles (Upstate NY)
Date: December 06, 2011 06:56PM |
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Ray-Mo.
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Charles (Upstate NY)
So far in the field the ETrac has come in 2nd place behind my Explorer SE with SE Pro coil. We were out last week going head to head on tiny targets and deeeeep coins, Etract got its share, it did well but could not match the Explorer on several targets.
May be your soil conditions or any other number of factors causing this.However here in the midwest the result were the exact opposite with three longtime Explorer men's Explorers falling behind the E-Trac.So much so that all three got E-Tracs and sold the Explorers.Their old,deep coin count has went up dramatically with the E-Tracs and none of them even think about going back to the Explorers.
Just one thing alone can cause the E-Trac to find more good targets in a day and that is the fact that it is faster and will allow you to cover more ground well not to mention it is so much more stable so as not to give you a headache from all the falsing and ground noise at many sites.
The main reason many long time Explorer users struggle with the E-Trac is they try and force it to become an Explorer IIII.If they would just learn to operate the E-Trac in the way it was designed to be operated they would get much better results.
It often comes down to the old saying "It is hard to teach an old dog new tricks" I am afraid.That is why so many new to FBS folks are doing extremely well with the E-Trac.They do not struggle with the old "un-learning" curve.Rather they read the manual and often Andy's book and then go out and do well.
Of course if they knew way more than the E-Trac they might do even better
Re: Explorers vs. the E-Trac; my first experiences, and a question... Posted by: Ray-Mo.
Date: December 06, 2011 07:13PM |
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Re: Explorers vs. the E-Trac; my first experiences, and a question... Posted by: EtracTom-AdirondacksNY
Date: December 06, 2011 07:28PM |
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Re: Explorers vs. the E-Trac; my first experiences, and a question... Posted by: Charles (Upstate NY)
Date: December 06, 2011 10:12PM |
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Ray-Mo.
May very well be the iron riden sand as I have not yet hunted salt beaches.It might take some work to get it to run well in those environments if possible.The E-Trac is a killer in my cut nail carpeted burnt town site from the CW.TTF in open screen pulls the goodies out like magic and some are tiny pieces of lead and harness brad washers at good depth.I had a V3 that was no where close to performing as well as my E-Trac except on micro gold jewelery.But then my AT Pro does as well at a third the price and it is water proof lol.
Re: Explorers vs. the E-Trac; my first experiences, and a question... Posted by: Charles (Upstate NY)
Date: December 06, 2011 10:27PM |
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EtracTom-AdirondacksNY
Are you running in Manual on the SE and they running in manual or Auto on the Etrac?? On beach sand do they have the GROUND setting set to NORMAL, when going to grassy areas inland use DIFFICULT. Try TRASH on HIGH then NORMAL over those targets if it's on NORMAL and it hits in the discriminated blacked out area on the Etrac it will just go null silent. Do they have some very little blacked out area on their discrimination screen like the RELICS PATTERN in presets compared to your SE screen, are you in IRON MASK or a discrimination screen?? The Etrac suprisingly likes SOME discrimination in order to function better on finding targets it's maybe written in the software programming of it. Are you from the WESTERN area of N.Y. you and I may know each other from earlier this decade/ latter part of the last decade when I used to go to a lot of metal detecting contests around the state and in the North East?? Last name Wilson possiably from around Medina area????
Really really really deep targets on the Etrac make a thunk sound thunk thunk when swinging over them but still ID well especially when DEEP is turned on.
Anyways this has been interesting to say the least. Whatever machine you feel is the best one for you and it's what you like and if it makes this wonderful hobby a great experience being outside with good friends and good times in the fresh air feeling good and healthy finding some great wonders of the past that is what it's really all about right??
Best to all Merry Christmas and a great find filled Happy New Year too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Explorers vs. the E-Trac; my first experiences, and a question... Posted by: s1u2r3f4
Date: December 06, 2011 10:42PM |
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Re: Explorers vs. the E-Trac; my first experiences, and a question... Posted by: sgoss66
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Re: Explorers vs. the E-Trac; my first experiences, and a question... Posted by: EtracTom-AdirondacksNY
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Re: Explorers vs. the E-Trac; my first experiences, and a question... Posted by: stasys
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Re: Explorers vs. the E-Trac; my first experiences, and a question... Posted by: EtracTom-AdirondacksNY
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