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possibly the last hunts of 2017
Posted by: dfmike
Date: December 02, 2017 10:38AM
This is from a combination tot lot, beach and the old "hunted out" place I have been going to these last few months.

I thought this dried up place had given up everything it had but apparently not. I still managed to get a 1919 large cent under a piece of aluminum from the underside of a bottle cap. The CoRe was giving me numbers in the 50-55 range but an occasional 84 prompted me to investigate further. Once I got the shallow aluminum out and passed my coil over the target again, the numbers were now a solid 83-84 and out came the penny. King George's face and crown on the underside are in perfect condition. I also found a 1942 penny, an old button, an enameled brass maple leaf and a key with religious symbols on it (St-Christopher, Joseph, Mary and Jesus). I never saw one before and I initially thought it was a full size house key before I started cleaning it up. It says "Italy" on one side. I was cherry picking at that place until recently. I have now started digging everything that gives me non iron audio on at least 2 angles. I would have never found the 1919 penny and maple leaf If I had only dug solid numbers.

The other finds were a combination tot lot/beach hunt. The cars are a Charger 69, a Renault RS and a loader. I found a good looking ring but I don't think it's worth anything (no markings whatsoever). It was a solid 63-64 on the CoRe. There was a very small sponge Bob pendant as well. As can be seen by the pictures, the CoRe is a decent "evil" steel core clad hunter. I find it better for that purpose if I use a small coil, DI2 mode and minimum masking. I still prefer my F19 for Canadian clad but the CoRe is decent.

Settings used: FC24 5 X 10 open coil, DI2, sens at 70 and masking at 20. I also prefer changing the tonality to 5 from the standard 3. I want the highest pitch sound the DI2 mode can give me.

I might be able to get out again this week but it's pretty much over for this year. The ground is frozen stiff in some areas and even a sturdy and sharp shovel can't get in. Bummer.



Active detectors: Fisher F19 LTD, Nokta Fors CoRe, Makro pointer and way too many coils.
Previous detectors: Bounty Hunter Discovery, Fisher F44, Omega 8000 V6, Minelab X-Terra 705, Fisher F5



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/02/2017 10:41AM by dfmike.




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Re: possibly the last hunts of 2017
Posted by: OregonGregg
Date: December 02, 2017 10:51AM
Nice finds, the large cent is very nice. The ol'Fors Core, it will get the job done. But yes I'm in the same boat as you.........winter is here :( it will be mid to late March before I will be able to get out again.



Makro Racer & Racer 2
Nokta Fors CoRe
Whites MXT & M6

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Re: possibly the last hunts of 2017
Posted by: dfmike
Date: December 03, 2017 03:39PM
Thanks OregonGregg. I can still dig in most places but it's getting more difficult with hand tools. The Lesche shovel still works well.

I like the CoRe and the only real beef I have with it is the tendency it has to throw a lot of targets in the 82-85 range. I heard a lot of people say that it throws junk in the 82 range but that has not been true for me on many occasions. I clearly remember finding a silver dime at 82 earlier this summer. Target separation is where this machine really shines.



Active detectors: Fisher F19 LTD, Nokta Fors CoRe, Makro pointer and way too many coils.
Previous detectors: Bounty Hunter Discovery, Fisher F44, Omega 8000 V6, Minelab X-Terra 705, Fisher F5

Hard ground, digging tools, and numeric VDI read-outs are
Posted by: Monte
Date: December 04, 2017 01:37AM
all things to contend with this time of year. Our ground, down here where Oregon Gregg and I live in far Eastern Oregon, is really getting into the frozen hard stage and is tough to deal with. There's the New Vs Old factor that enters into the picture this time of year. My new-to-me early Christmas present, a White's Ground Hawg shovel, is able to take on the tough, hard ground and do well, but my old, tired body just doesn't enjoy the bitter cold like it once did. Unless I trailer-up and head south for a week or two or three in a warmer wintry weather region, it looks like 'cabin fever' season has arrived until sometime in March.

The CoRe, even with its Ferrous/Non-Ferrous break point of '40' that does crunch a lot of conductive targets into that ±82 numeric TID range, is still one of the best all-purpose detectors I have ever used. It is the Target ID/Tone ID model that I use to compare all other display detectors against, regardless of who makes them. Even Nokta's own Relic and Impact had to go up against my CoRe when I evaluated them. Separation ability is one of the strengths of the CoRe, and I keep my two devises at-the-ready with the two search coils I use the most when hunting modest trash to densely littered sites.

As long as the weather allows, get out there and enjoy all the performance the CoRe has to offer. :thumbup:

Monte



"Your EYES ... the only 100% accurate form of Discrimination!"

Stinkwater Wells
Trading Post

Metal Detector Evaluations and Product Reviews
'How-To' help for Coin & Jewelry Hunting, Relic Hunting and Useful Techniques.

My Regular-Use Detector Team are from:
Makro, Nokta, Tesoro and White's
Note: Detectors are listed alphabetically by Brand. Models are chosen as desired based on search site conditions.
Additional search coils. mounted on spare lower-rods, are on-hand in my Accessory Coil Tote.
Pinpointers: Using Nokta and Makro Pointers.
Headphones: Using White's Pro Star w/'tank style' ear cups.
Recovery Tools: Using White's Ground Hawg Shovel and DigMaster digging tools.

*** All working well today to make memories for tomorrow. ***

monte@stinkwaterwells.com .. or .. monte@ahrps.org
(503) 481-8147


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Re: possibly the last hunts of 2017
Posted by: dfmike
Date: December 04, 2017 06:58PM
Monte, I probably wouldn't mind the tight high conductor grouping of the CoRe if I hadn't used the F19 previous to that. The F19 also has a 0-40 iron range but it has a wider spread of target ID's than the CoRe and the VDI is generally more stable especially on pure (non alloy) metals. I like both for different reasons. The CoRe's unmasking capability is nothing short of amazing. In an ideal world, my detector would be a combination of both.

Regarding your winter: I'm just lucky I can still dig the ground at this time of the year. Being north of you the ground is usually covered in snow and the upper 2 inches or so are hard as rock. I still have a few days left and then winter is suppose to arrive with a vengeance. I'm hoping to find a few silver goodies by then.



Active detectors: Fisher F19 LTD, Nokta Fors CoRe, Makro pointer and way too many coils.
Previous detectors: Bounty Hunter Discovery, Fisher F44, Omega 8000 V6, Minelab X-Terra 705, Fisher F5

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Re: possibly the last hunts of 2017
Posted by: OregonGregg
Date: December 04, 2017 09:34PM
The F19 is ok but if I remember ( promptly got rid of mine) if I remember correctly you had to adjust the disc almost the whole iron range to just knock out nails. Whereas on the core 21 usually does it, half the range. And if ya stack a silver half on a silver dollar, the F19 would read it as iron...or give a very bad broken up signal................same as the Euro Tek. But then again a person would be amazed by a lot of detectors, detecting a couple silver dollars stacked on one another....might be baffled by the results. Most times (99%) I'm using my Core in an iron infested site......if it pops, even very briefly, a high tone signal/VDI.....I'm investigating.



Makro Racer & Racer 2
Nokta Fors CoRe
Whites MXT & M6

Re: possibly the last hunts of 2017
Posted by: D&P-OR
Date: December 04, 2017 10:20PM
Gregg-----Next time you find a silver half on a silver dollar or silver dollars stacked (with your "anything" detector)---I want you to send 'em to me---OK??:thumbup:---------Balls---you can even send me the detector along with the coins if you want to!!!:wink:
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OregonGregg
The F19 is ok but if I remember ( promptly got rid of mine) if I remember correctly you had to adjust the disc almost the whole iron range to just knock out nails. Whereas on the core 21 usually does it, half the range. And if ya stack a silver half on a silver dollar, the F19 would read it as iron...or give a very bad broken up signal................same as the Euro Tek. But then again a person would be amazed by a lot of detectors, detecting a couple silver dollars stacked on one another....might be baffled by the results. Most times (99%) I'm using my Core in an iron infested site......if it pops, even very briefly, a high tone signal/VDI.....I'm investigating.


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Re: possibly the last hunts of 2017
Posted by: OregonGregg
Date: December 04, 2017 10:23PM
Lol Del I'll send you the detector...but I can't send you the coins....it can't find any......



Makro Racer & Racer 2
Nokta Fors CoRe
Whites MXT & M6

Re: possibly the last hunts of 2017
Posted by: D&P-OR
Date: December 04, 2017 10:35PM
Get out there & git to huntin----you (it) can do it!!------That ground isn't frozen--IS IT??:rofl:
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OregonGregg
Lol Del I'll send you the detector...but I can't send you the coins....it can't find any......


"That ground isn't frozen--IS IT?? :rofl: "
Posted by: Monte
Date: December 05, 2017 01:21AM
Del, at 12:00 midnight Monday, here in Vale about 70+ miles south of where you live, it is 27° F and fair, and heading for a low of 21° but things get less pleasant for detecting this coming week according to NOAA's predictions:


Monday Night: Low: 21 °F

Tuesday: Patchy fog before 11am. with a high near 38° F. Tuesday Night: Patchy fog after 11pm. with a low around 21° F.

Wednesday: Patchy fog before 11am. with a high near 36° F. Wednesday Night: Patchy fog after 11pm. with a low around 16° F.

Thursday: Patchy fog before 11am. with a high near 30° F. Thursday Night: Patchy fog after 11pm. with a low around 16° F.

Friday: Patchy fog before 11am. with a high near 25° F. Friday Night: Patchy fog after 11pm. with a low around 16° F.

Saturday: Patchy fog before 11am. with a high near 29° F. Saturday Night: Patchy fog. with a low around 16° F.

Sunday: Patchy fog with a high near 30° F. Sunday Night: Patchy fog. with a low around 17° F.

Monday: Patchy fog with a high near 30° F.



Now, doesn't that make you two want to give up this 'snow-birding' routine and scurry back home? :surrender: At least we haven't seen any snowfall yet. :clapping:

Monte



"Your EYES ... the only 100% accurate form of Discrimination!"

Stinkwater Wells
Trading Post

Metal Detector Evaluations and Product Reviews
'How-To' help for Coin & Jewelry Hunting, Relic Hunting and Useful Techniques.

My Regular-Use Detector Team are from:
Makro, Nokta, Tesoro and White's
Note: Detectors are listed alphabetically by Brand. Models are chosen as desired based on search site conditions.
Additional search coils. mounted on spare lower-rods, are on-hand in my Accessory Coil Tote.
Pinpointers: Using Nokta and Makro Pointers.
Headphones: Using White's Pro Star w/'tank style' ear cups.
Recovery Tools: Using White's Ground Hawg Shovel and DigMaster digging tools.

*** All working well today to make memories for tomorrow. ***

monte@stinkwaterwells.com .. or .. monte@ahrps.org
(503) 481-8147


Re: "That ground isn't frozen--IS IT?? :rofl: "
Posted by: D&P-OR
Date: December 05, 2017 03:09AM
WOW----Sounds like pretty decent detecting weather--except for all that fog! (not):tongue:------I'm good for about 70 degrees myself.-----Greggs a tuff young fella---I'll bet he could sharpen up his digger & handle it!:wink:

Dealing with the frozen ground is a
Posted by: Monte
Date: December 05, 2017 07:31AM
real pain as you well know. I did buy myself a new White's Ground Hawg to help with a lot of the already hard ground like up at 'Lone Tree' and similar Relic Hunting sites, but I'll use it in warmer weather. Shovels and hand diggers and back-hoes can handle hard-frozen ground, but my body doesn't care for the cold wintry weather. A lot of family things going on around here and that's hampering my plans to get away for a couple weeks of south-west weather comfort. I hope you stay rain-free down there and can get in ample detecting time .

Monte



"Your EYES ... the only 100% accurate form of Discrimination!"

Stinkwater Wells
Trading Post

Metal Detector Evaluations and Product Reviews
'How-To' help for Coin & Jewelry Hunting, Relic Hunting and Useful Techniques.

My Regular-Use Detector Team are from:
Makro, Nokta, Tesoro and White's
Note: Detectors are listed alphabetically by Brand. Models are chosen as desired based on search site conditions.
Additional search coils. mounted on spare lower-rods, are on-hand in my Accessory Coil Tote.
Pinpointers: Using Nokta and Makro Pointers.
Headphones: Using White's Pro Star w/'tank style' ear cups.
Recovery Tools: Using White's Ground Hawg Shovel and DigMaster digging tools.

*** All working well today to make memories for tomorrow. ***

monte@stinkwaterwells.com .. or .. monte@ahrps.org
(503) 481-8147


Back to you in response.
Posted by: Monte
Date: December 05, 2017 07:49AM
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dfmike
Monte, I probably wouldn't mind the tight high conductor grouping of the CoRe if I hadn't used the F19 previous to that. The F19 also has a 0-40 iron range but it has a wider spread of target ID's than the CoRe and the VDI is generally more stable especially on pure (non alloy) metals. I like both for different reasons. The CoRe's unmasking capability is nothing short of amazing. In an ideal world, my detector would be a combination of both.

I know what you're referring to in the F-19's ability to separate a little better on those conductors in the CoRe's '82' range, but I bought two F19 camo units when they came out and had a few coils to work with, but found them to be nose-heavy with the 5X10 DD. Also, I didn't care for the Discrimination design. I had a Teknetics Omega 8000 Ver. 4 that would let me reject nails at a setting of about '16' or '17', and a Tek. T2 'Classic' that knocked nails out at about '21' yet both of those models had a Ferrous break at '40'. That meant I had ample adjustment range to sort of 'fine tune' my iron range rejection to just accept or just barely reject nails and not use a very bold high iron reject setting.

The Euro-Tek Pro, and I had two of them, and the two F-19's all required a very high setting to just reject nails of '37', '38' or even '39' with a Ferrous break point of '40' and that's not acceptable for me, simply because that isn't functional. The CoRe has the '40' Ferrous break-point, by rejects iron nails at about '20' or '21', and that provides me with more spread for iron rejection. I keep my CoRe Disc. saved at '10' to reject some iron but hear nails to help unmask desired keepers in the mix of ferrous trash. If nails annoy me, I have room to fine tune the adjustment to just barely reject what I don't want w/o having too much rejection.

But a year after the FORS CoRe took on the #1 role as my most versatile, general-purpose detector, it was joined by the FORS Relic, and then I had features similar to, and better, than the F-19. I had the 19 kHz operating frequency, yet it retains the excellent weight, feel and balance of the FORS CoRe. in addition, the Relic adds two more search modes, DEEP and SWIFT, plus the very useful Iron Audio Volume control. I then had a set of two detector models that complemented each other and tied in the #1 spot for me in my Regular-Use Detector Team. Then the Impact made the scene to start 2017 and it joins the CoRe and Relic as ALL THREE models are basically tied it my #1 use spot.


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dfmike
Regarding your winter: I'm just lucky I can still dig the ground at this time of the year. Being north of you the ground is usually covered in snow and the upper 2 inches or so are hard as rock. I still have a few days left and then winter is suppose to arrive with a vengeance. I'm hoping to find a few silver goodies by then.
Yes, it is now 'cabin fever time' here in Eastern Oregon where they now predict a low of 10° F Thursday night and warming to about 8° below freezing for a high on Friday. At least they don't have any precipitation in the forecast and we might make it through the week being very cold, but snow-free so far this year.

Let's all hope for a milder-than-normal winter and an early arrival of springtime detecting weather. I know that's on my 'wish list.'

Monte



"Your EYES ... the only 100% accurate form of Discrimination!"

Stinkwater Wells
Trading Post

Metal Detector Evaluations and Product Reviews
'How-To' help for Coin & Jewelry Hunting, Relic Hunting and Useful Techniques.

My Regular-Use Detector Team are from:
Makro, Nokta, Tesoro and White's
Note: Detectors are listed alphabetically by Brand. Models are chosen as desired based on search site conditions.
Additional search coils. mounted on spare lower-rods, are on-hand in my Accessory Coil Tote.
Pinpointers: Using Nokta and Makro Pointers.
Headphones: Using White's Pro Star w/'tank style' ear cups.
Recovery Tools: Using White's Ground Hawg Shovel and DigMaster digging tools.

*** All working well today to make memories for tomorrow. ***

monte@stinkwaterwells.com .. or .. monte@ahrps.org
(503) 481-8147


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