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Who on this forum believe Minelab has something up there sleeve??? (A good thing)
Posted by: Bud-sc
Date: January 10, 2018 03:52PM
I think Minelab is up to something in a good way. I think when the Equinox comes out at the end of the month then a little later another Equinox will be out by summer. Probably the 1000. That Equinox will have the GPS and some additional goodies. I just can't believe there are only the 600/800.

Re: Who on this forum believe Minelab has something up there sleeve??? (A good thing)
Posted by: Dan(NM)
Date: January 10, 2018 04:24PM
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Bud-sc
I think Minelab is up to something in a good way. I think when the Equinox comes out at the end of the month then a little later another Equinox will be out by summer. Probably the 1000. That Equinox will have the GPS and some additional goodies. I just can't believe there are only the 600/800.


I would be very surprised if it happened that soon to be honest. They have stated that it is the beginning of things to come as far as Multi-IQ goes, I'm sure a higher end machine is already in the works.

Re: Who on this forum believe Minelab has something up there sleeve??? (A good thing)
Posted by: Tyber0z
Date: January 10, 2018 04:37PM
I'm in agreement with Dan.

Re: Who on this forum believe Minelab has something up there sleeve??? (A good thing)
Posted by: TomNH
Date: January 10, 2018 06:48PM
IMHO much depends on when the patents run out on FBS. How long has it been around, 10+yrs ?
It may be MIQ buys them another long run "only we have it". If thats the plan I would guess better
models will work there way up the line & FBS will be chopped to 1 or 2 models for those who
prefer it. EQ's will be like AT's where better models are released over time. The reason there are 2 models to
start is to fill the price point of the XTerra. So my prediction is Go Find on the low end, MIQ in the middle
& working up, FBS scaled down to a few high end models just above MIQ's.
Tomorrow I will look up the FBS patent date..........

Anyhows that container ship is out in the Pacific right now with a box full of EQ 800's. SOON GUYS !

73 Tom
LFOD !

Re: Who on this forum believe Minelab has something up there sleeve??? (A good thing)
Posted by: Bud-sc
Date: January 10, 2018 07:35PM
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TomNH
IMHO much depends on when the patents run out on FBS. How long has it been around, 10+yrs ?
It may be MIQ buys them another long run "only we have it". If thats the plan I would guess better
models will work there way up the line & FBS will be chopped to 1 or 2 models for those who
prefer it. EQ's will be like AT's where better models are released over time. The reason there are 2 models to
start is to fill the price point of the XTerra. So my prediction is Go Find on the low end, MIQ in the middle
& working up, FBS scaled down to a few high end models just above MIQ's.
Tomorrow I will look up the FBS patent date..........

Anyhows that container ship is out in the Pacific right now with a box full of EQ 800's. SOON GUYS !

73 Tom
LFOD !

That would be great information about the FBS patient date!!!

Re: Who on this forum believe Minelab has something up there sleeve??? (A good thing)
Posted by: nagov
Date: January 10, 2018 07:36PM
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TomNH

Anyhows that container ship is out in the Pacific right now with a box full of EQ 800's. SOON GUYS !

73 Tom
LFOD !

I thought they were flying them over and dropping them by parachute?????



Walk near it, swing over it and understand what the machine is telling you....

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Re: Who on this forum believe Minelab has something up there sleeve??? (A good thing)
Posted by: sgoss66
Date: January 10, 2018 08:33PM
I would not be surprised at all to see, in say two years, a "CTZ 4040" released, which would be an evolved Multi-IQ-based "flagship." Total speculation, but it's basically in line with the other speculation going on in this thread.

Consider the GPX series... Gold Prospecting, an "X," and then model numbers. PI-based gold prospecting units. After the 5000 model, a "new technology" was introduced and incorporated (ZVT -- zero-volt transmission) and so GPX became GPZ -- the "Z" to show it's a new technology.

SO, similarly, the CTX... Coin Treassure, an "X," and then model numbers. An FBS-based coin/treasure unit. Now that we have the "new technology" of Multi-IQ, a CTZ would make sense. Hence -- CTZ-4040, a Multi-IQ-based flagship?

And "after" any FBS patent would expire, could make sense...

Just thinking out loud. Useless pondering, I know! :)

Steve



Minelab CTX 3030
Minelab Equinox 800
Garrett ProPointer AT
Lesche hand digger
Lesche 38D Ground Shark "King of Spades"

Norman, OK



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/10/2018 08:36PM by sgoss66.

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Where's the next step?
Posted by: Rich (Utah)
Date: January 10, 2018 08:41PM
BBS and CZ technology came out about 1989-90, FBS in 1999. I believe patents last 17 yrs from the time they're granted. (any patent lawyers out there?)

I don't see other manufacturers using BBS or CZ technology, both of which manage the salt water of the ocean beaches. Minelab is still making the Excalibur and Fisher the CZ-3D. Both of these 'technologies' are nearly 30 years old.

Why is that?

I don't see Minelab making the next step with the Equinox for about 2 years. They'll give time for things to shake out in the field and acquire feedback of where users want to go next.


Just my opinion.

Rich



EQ800
Deus
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Re: Where's the next step?
Posted by: Jason in Enid
Date: January 10, 2018 09:01PM
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Rich (Utah)
BBS and CZ technology came out about 1989-90, FBS in 1999. I believe patents last 17 yrs from the time they're granted. (any patent lawyers out there?)

I don't see other manufacturers using BBS or CZ technology, both of which manage the salt water of the ocean beaches. Minelab is still making the Excalibur and Fisher the CZ-3D. Both of these 'technologies' are nearly 30 years old.

Why is that?

I don't see Minelab making the next step with the Equinox for about 2 years. They'll give time for things to shake out in the field and acquire feedback of where users want to go next.


Just my opinion.

Rich

None of the other companies are copying those older multi-freq detectors because they cant. It takes a lot more just plugging 2 or more feqs together in a detector and saying "there ya go". Whites had to pay minelab for help to get their multi-freq to actually work. If it was easy, they would all do it.

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Re: Who on this forum believe Minelab has something up there sleeve??? (A good thing)
Posted by: dewcon4414
Date: January 11, 2018 04:57AM
If they come out that soon..... they either watered the EQ down and didnt offer us an update to the program, fixed some machine issues, or added some bells and whistles with a steeper price tag. I believe this will be a platform down the road........ and multi task machines seem to be in. So expect to loose a line or two.

Dew



MDT 8000, EQ 800, CTX, Blue Xcals
Dew Meeker

Re: Who on this forum believe Minelab has something up there sleeve??? (A good thing)
Posted by: JBM1
Date: January 11, 2018 06:04AM
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nagov


Anyhows that container ship is out in the Pacific right now with a box full of EQ 800's. SOON GUYS !

73 Tom
LFOD !

I thought they were flying them over and dropping them by parachute?????


10/10 Brilliant quip.:lol: Lerry.

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Re: Who on this forum believe Minelab has something up there sleeve??? (A good thing)
Posted by: Southwind
Date: January 11, 2018 07:15AM
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Whites had to pay minelab for help to get their multi-freq to actually work.

I thought they put that monkey to bed a long time ago that White's had paid Minelab. Wasn't it found that White's multi-frequency was nothing like Minelabs?

Kind of like saying all other vehicle manufactures have to pay Ford to make a multi passenger car.



The real treasure is in the hunt...



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Re: Who on this forum believe Minelab has something up there sleeve??? (A good thing)
Posted by: Beyonder
Date: January 11, 2018 07:44AM
You are dreaming if you think anything will come out soon. The only way something will come out in two years is if the other manufacturers come out with something that will affect Minelabs bottom line. Until then, I would say the NOX will be there only new coin machine until 2023.

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Re: Who on this forum believe Minelab has something up there sleeve??? (A good thing)
Posted by: Jason in Enid
Date: January 11, 2018 08:47AM
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Beyonder
You are dreaming if you think anything will come out soon. The only way something will come out in two years is if the other manufacturers come out with something that will affect Minelabs bottom line. Until then, I would say the NOX will be there only new coin machine until 2023.

My first reaction to this was NO WAY, theyll bring out something new before that, but when I think back on all the past releases, they do seem to be on a 5 year timeline.

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Re: Who on this forum believe Minelab has something up there sleeve??? (A good thing)
Posted by: GKMan
Date: January 11, 2018 09:58AM
This link to the story of Minelab breaks down their releases pretty nicely. I think we could see a new flagship detector within the next couple years. Sorry if this was already discussed I didn't read through the entire thread.

https://www.minelab.com/consumer/knowledge-base/history



Gary
Dutchess County New York
I love The Game of Tones....
Present: Equinox 800.
Past: CTX-3030 Minelab E-Trac, Explorer II, Sovereign
Detecting Since 1984 Using Minelab since mid 90s

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