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Very good story Paul and.........
Posted by: Wayne in BC
Date: July 08, 2009 07:31PM
i understand your decision. Does your season start that early? Here by the time the season starts in Nov Dec the fawns are weaned and fully able to be on their own.

A liar will assume you are lying

Oct 1st is opening day for archery.....
Posted by: Paul (AR)
Date: July 08, 2009 07:36PM
the fawn I saw didn't have spots on it's back but you could tell it was still a baby.

Good decision Paul.... I still hunt... but I make my selection very carefully..N/T
Posted by: Mikie
Date: July 08, 2009 08:15PM

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Good post Paul, I felt like I was in the stand with
Posted by: George-CT
Date: July 08, 2009 09:53PM
you. Very detailed writer. Strange the different things that cause one to stop and think a little different than they did a day earlier.
I was and avid white tail hunter myself. We still allow hunters on the farm here but I personally have not taken one in quite a few years.
I still help them drag or skid them out with the quad when they get them here. I few steaks or enough meat for a nice venison stew and I'm good to go. Had two fawns around the barn this am, but I didn't grab a picture of them. Can't use cross bow here but can bow hunt with the compounds and it starts in Sept.


What a wonderful and well written story!!
Posted by: Royal
Date: July 09, 2009 07:12AM
I think for many of us that time comes. I have no problem with people hunting but it is just not for me. I used to love it and still eat venison if I can get it but when they change from our prey to beautiful animals in our minds it is time to hang it up. To some it never happens and that is fine but to some of us it is enough to just watch them.

We had our first fawn in last night. Little guy was so small and it was a treat to see it running and playing as mama ate and still kept a close eye on the little guy. He will eventually be some hunters dinner and that is fine with me. That is their place in todays world but not for me. I get much more enjoyment all year long than I ever did shooting one. They do taste good though.

Thanks for sharing the story, Paul.

What time of year is your bow hunt? If it is in the fall it must have been an awful late fawn. We had a deer drop twins late last fall but they both made it through the winter, much to us feeding mama. They still come in every night but are gonna be hunter targets this next fall


You did the right thing Paul! You went with the Heart! If you had a starving
Posted by: Ron J
Date: July 10, 2009 05:17PM
family to feed, we would all of thought different though!

Good story, Paul! I know all the young service men go thru similar
Posted by: Sunny
Date: July 24, 2009 07:57PM
experiences, but it still doesn't make it better. I know you and your wife were both elated to see each other and worth any amount. Write some more. I am in and out of the forum and just caught this one tonight. :)

Re: Stories by Paul(AR)........
Posted by: TexasCharley
Date: August 14, 2009 10:54AM
In South Texas a lot of ranchers will let you hunt for free if all you take is does. They charge big money--sometimes as much as $1000--for trophy bucks, but none of the trophy hunters take does. As a result there's an overpopulation of does.

In addition, a lot of the does are barren. There's a mechanism in a doe that, if there isn't enough food to produce the milk to raise a fawn, will cause te doe's body to absorb the fetus. If this mechanism triggers more than a couple of times, that doe will never bear another fawn. All she does is eat forage that would otherwise be available to fecund does & trophy bucks.

Since we're having a major dry spell all over South Texas, it's very likely you won't have much trouble finding a barren doe. Since our season starts 1 Nov--bow season starts 1 Oct--by that time the fawns are eating forage rather than dependent on the does. I hunt mostly with muzzle-loaders. Muzzle-loading season starts the day regular rifle season ends & continues for 10 days. We'd like to have it from 21 to 31 Oct so the deer aren't snakebit, but that's the way it's set up. Muzzle-loader season adds a $10 fee to your license, which is ridiculous. However, you can hunt with a muzzle-loader during the regular rifle season without paying the extra fee.

The beauty of hunting with a muzzle-loader lies in the fact that there's no blood-shocked meat like there is with a center-fire. You can actually eat the meat to within half an inch or so of the bullet hole. Some guy with a .223 hopes he'll get .45-caliber expansion out of his bullet. My ball starts out .45 caliber. I use a flintlock eastern long rifle with a left-hand lock, the only one I've ever seen. Since I'm left-eyed but right handed, I shoot all long guns off my left shoulder. This gave me a problem with the M-16 because the ejection port is on the right side. Every time I fired the ejected shell would spank the lobe of my right ear. I never got burned by one, but it was a major distraction. That's why I ditched the M-16 & got hold of an old M-2 grease gun. A couple of .45 hardballs are more effective than half a mag of 5.52 mm.

Besides, the meat of a buck in rut tastes awful! Doe meat is a lot better eating.

Muzzle-loading season in AR.....
Posted by: Paul (AR)
Date: August 14, 2009 01:41PM
is usually just before Modern gun season, this gives Muzzle-loaders a chance to bag one before a zillion people trample through the forest on opening day of Modern gun. Hope you get one this year TexasCharley. By the way, I am originally from Victoria, TX. which is about 100 miles south of Houston.

Re: Stories by Paul(AR)........
Posted by: TexasCharley
Date: August 14, 2009 02:57PM
I'm in Seguin, which is abt 40 miles due east of the north side of San Antonio on I-10. Been down to Victoria several times. Got a friend who's on the history faculty at Victoria College. As a matter of fact, my daughter graduated from VC's LPN program several years ago.

I don't know that I'll get to hunt this year. I had a pal--a game warden--down in S Texas who could get me on any number of ranches to shoot a doe, but he retired & less than a year later he dropped dead of a heart attack while out fishing. I've put in for one of the muzzle-loader hunts at Chaparral WMA south of Cotulla, but getting drawn for one of those is a crapshoot.

:usaflag:The perils of having false teeth.....
Posted by: Paul (AR)
Date: August 18, 2009 08:41PM
A few years ago I got a new set of lower partials. I tried to wear them all the time to get use to them, but my sore gums said other wise. I eventually would take them out after eating and wrap them in a table napkin and place them in my pocket for safe keeping. bright sunny morning my wife and I went into our local McDonald's for breakfast and as usual after the meal I took the partials out and wrapped them in a napkin, but this time I placed them on the tray the food comes on. I got to talking to the wife about the days events and what we had planned and I got up and deposited the empty food items into the trash bin and we left and went on our merry way. It was about an hour later, while shopping, I padded my shirt pocked to make sure I still had my partials that I discovered they were not there. I thought back to the last time I had them and to my horror remembered that I left them on the food tray at McDonald's which I emptied into the trash bin. I hurried back to McDonald's and talked with the manager and explained what happened and asked if I could take that bag of trash in that certain trash bin home to sort through it. The manager informed me all the trash bins were emptied a few minutes ago and taken to the main trash bin out behind the building. I was thinking it was lost for sure now, then I got to thinking what the heck, give it one more try, so I asked the manager would it be alright if I looked in the main trash bin for the bag of trash, he said it would be OK with him, just don't make a big mess. I remembered the trash bin that I emptied my food tray in had a bunch of newspapers in it, so off I went back behind the building and opened the wooden gates to the main trash bin and there stood the main trash bin, it was a monster, as tall as I was with 2 lids on top. I saw a 5 gallon plastic bucked in the corner and used that to look inside the bin, there were several dozen bags of trash, I reached in and pulled a dozen out onto the ground in front of the bin. I was feeling pretty embarrassed
about this time, hoping no one was watching me. I tore into the first bag and it was plain trash, no newspapers, so was the next and so on, I was feeling pretty disgusted, about the 8th bag I tore into, I saw newspapers, my hope shot up, I eased the newspapers around and low and behold there sat a napkin that had the familiar shape I so often see, I unwrapped the napkin and there sat my partials. I was so happy I didn't have to go through all the hassle replacing them. I took them home and cleaned and sterilized them. After that experience, I keep the partials in from morning until bed time.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/19/2009 09:44AM by Wayne in BC.

Paul, gosh! That must have been a real nightmare! ..........
Posted by: Kelley (Texas)
Date: August 18, 2009 08:46PM
I am glad that you found them and everything turned out OK. Good story! Kelley (Texas) :)

That could have been an expensive Lunch Paul... Good thing that you had another lookN/T
Posted by: Mikie
Date: August 19, 2009 09:21AM

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Yikes! What a day Paul............
Posted by: Wayne in BC
Date: August 19, 2009 11:16AM
lucky a dumpster diver didn't beat you to it, you may have had to pay a ransom:biggrin:

Re: Stories by Paul(AR)........
Posted by: Cupajo
Date: August 20, 2009 10:43AM
You were what is known as a "motivated hunter"!

Poor diet, inadequate dental hygiene and ignorance has cost more poor people their teeth than anything else.

My Mom and Dad had full upper and lower plates by the time they were in their early fifties!

I have had upper and lower partials since I was 16.

So far they have been a blessing.

Glad you found yours Friend.

It's a royal pain to replace them!


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