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Re: Overrated???
Posted by: RLOH
Date: December 14, 2017 09:50AM
Herb, I have read the many posts from experienced people. I know you are interested in concrete, black and white answers, but what is fantastic to one, is junk to others. I remember one particular detector that people criticized and I thought the detector was great. For the record, that detector was a Whites Quantum QXT. Another detector that many people liked, I absolutely hated. That detector a Minelab Quattro.

I gave you several models, but metal detectors are very subjective. I don't believe I have ever heard of a detector that was just plain not "up to par". I do know that there are some models that are extremely complicated and in the wrong hands will not perform. I can't call this type of detector overrated. A good example of this is a Whites DFX. In the factory programs, it did not justify it's price. It had to be tweaked and once the operator knew what to adjust, it justified it's price. Some might call this detector overrated, but under utilized might be a better term.

I see the many brand new high priced detectors being sold after only a quick trial. I have found that a person has to spend considerable time with any detector to make any judgement. A couple of years back, my expensive main detector broke and I was forced to use my back up for several months straight. I initially did not believe it was deep enough to get to the older coins at my detecting sites. It was all I had so I started paying more attention to the border line signals. I was pleasantly surprised at what I started finding. I guess that this scenario would apply to most all major brand detectors.

I thought this was a very interesting thread and thanks for getting it started.

Re: Overrated???
Posted by: IDXMonster
Date: December 14, 2017 07:09PM
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Every machine ever made is overrated until the day comes when we understand what it's telling us... i had a fisher 1270 that i did not like ,was just too frisky on iron no matter how i set it up.. however when i took it to a freshwater lake i soon realized i had very good machine for micro jewelry hunting, rejected bobbypins but still hit hard on the tiny gold and had very good depth too.. why fisher didnt make the 1270 into a freshwater machine I'll never know cause that's the only place it out performed my other machines... machine has since quit and even though i only found one use for it i miss it...

I love your first sentence. How true it is...

Re: Overrated???
Posted by: daddyflea
Date: December 15, 2017 12:49PM
I had a V3i with all the goodies and sold it to get a spare Etrac missed the great screen and did not gain depth. Just got tired of all the adjustments. Bought a VX3 today hoping it is a little more simple. To me I would never recommend a V3i to anyone who is not a seasoned Whites owner, but the Etrac was supposed to be complicated as well. For me it was a breeze after the V3i.



Minelab Etrac
Sun Ray X-8 & X-12
Etrac Stock 11" Coil
Whites VX3
Stock 9.5 Concentric
6X10 Whites DD
4X6 Whites DD
Sunray DX-1 Probe
TRX Pinpointer
Garrett Pro pointer (Carrot Stick)
DetectorPro Rattler Headphones
Predator Tools 31c digger
Lesche digger
Lesche Heavyweight Mini Pick

Re: Overrated???
Posted by: doc holiday232
Date: December 21, 2017 08:38AM
Most Overrated??--Has to be the Phantom ie., NOXIOUS.

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Re: Overrated???
Posted by: still looking 52
Date: December 21, 2017 06:45PM
Marketing people usually run under the theory of promise more and deliver less in no matter what type of product your talking about. I was in the tire business for over 30 years and worked for a large tire manufacturer and they were always coming out with there latest greatest tire. I never believed them until after I heard back from my customers and then I would believe what they were saying. Sometimes the tire was that good but most of the time it fell way short of what they promised. I'd take way more stock in what the people were saying here on this forum than the manufacturer of any metal detectors.

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My experience...
Posted by: Skillet
Date: December 21, 2017 09:26PM
The two that prolly disappointed me the most were the G Ace 250 and the Fischer F2.

We all know that different machines are usually better at diff tasks... and with all the hype on these two, I jumped right in, only to find they absolutely did nothing better than the machines I already had. Found performance/features mediocre, at best. Sold them both, cheap

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Re: My experience...
Posted by: slingshot
Date: December 30, 2017 01:15PM
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Skillet
The two that prolly disappointed me the most were the G Ace 250 and the Fischer F2.

We all know that different machines are usually better at diff tasks... and with all the hype on these two, I jumped right in, only to find they absolutely did nothing better than the machines I already had. Found performance/features mediocre, at best. Sold them both, cheap
This proves the whole point of this thread. I got a sniper coil for my Ace 250 and it's simply a KILLER machine IN MY SITES! Sure, I have a nicer, fancier machine- but I could never quit using it in many areas. Now, as for the second part of the equation- I wanted to get rid of it after I first started using it but I read tips from this forum- specifically from Mr. Revis- before his passing- and I started liking it better. Finally, after John Edmonton's post on the sniper coil, I got one and the rest is a long happy story. So no one here is making a mountain out of a molehill.

Re: Tom got it right-you are really asking what units are not overrated, you implied, what is the best.
Posted by: hairymonsterman
Date: January 02, 2018 04:28AM
I've been swinging the Signum MFD for the last few months, it's my fav relic machine ever, but it takes more learning than any I've used.
The new Equinox might be the next big thing, but if it's the same or less in depth as an Etrac then my Signum will not be put to the axe, because when you make the Signum a specialist hunter by matching freq to target it's much, much deeper than fbs.


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Whatever you hunt with just have fun and hope the detector Gods are on your side (you have two of their high priests already, George Paine and Dave Johnson.) I'd love a detector someone mentioned here, AKA Signum MFD-hearing a lot of good ( and some bad.)


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