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Why are they coming out with a new waterproof detector?
Posted by: sandnsea49
Date: October 10, 2018 11:51PM
Darn, I just bought a Multi Kruzer cause it was new and could be updated. So instead of updates they bring out a new machine? Why??? And as for the Kruzer forum it may as well not exist. Is there something wrong with the Kruzer that no one makers posts or is it just not as popular as other brands. I bought it for the water and because it has better separation in the VDI range.

Nokta-Makro Detection Technologies didn't replace your unit.
Posted by: Monte
Date: October 11, 2018 09:51AM
They still offer the waterproof Kruzer, Multi-Kruzer and Gold Kruzer models and simply added the Anfibio series of an Anfibio Multi, Anfibio 14 and Anfibio 19. As a set they are different from the Kruzer series, somewhat, yet all of them provide remarkable in-the-field performance.

Upgrade ability is really just a feature to fix a glitch or do something the engineers feel a definite need to address. It doesn't man a detector is going to be constantly 'upgradeable' because they can't be.

Note, too, that there are many detecting enthusiasts who prefer an 'S' curved rod system to a straight rod design and visa-versa. Therefore, Nokta-Makro is offering something that's waterproof that can appeal to more people than only one physical package design.

You made a good detector choice for several reasons.

Monte



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Metal Detector Evaluations and Product Reviews
'How-To' help for Coin & Jewelry Hunting, Relic Hunting and Useful Techniques.

'Regular-Use Detector Team' are models from: Nokta - Makro, Teknetics, Tesoro and White's
'Specialty-Use Detectors' are models from: Compass, Garrett and Teknetics
Pinpointers: Using Nokta - Makro and Uniprobe Pointers.
Headphones: Using Killer B's 'Hornet' and White's Pro Star and Detector Pro's Uniprobe ... All w/'tank style' ear cups.
Recovery Gear: Using White's DigMaster digging tool and Signature Series pouch.
Note: Detectors are listed alphabetically by Brand. Models are chosen as desired based on search site conditions.
Some models are assigned for 'Regular-Use' and others are on-hand for 'Specialty Use.'
Additional search coils, mounted on spare lower-rods, are on-hand in my Accessory Coil Tote.


*** All working well today to make memories for tomorrow. ***

monte@stinkwaterwells.com .. or .. monte@ahrps.org
(503) 481-8147


I agree about not liking a compressed numeric VDI scale.
Posted by: Monte
Date: October 11, 2018 10:09AM
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i feel that the Impact is better than the Nox , because the nox has such a compressed vdi scale. That alone is a deal breaker.
The Only detector I own with TID that is limited is my White's Classic ID that relies of 8 segments. It's very functional, but it's also twenty-some years old and a simple 'flash technology' approach for a simple analog detector.

All the rest of my detectors provide me a broader-range numeric VDI scale, especially for the non-ferrous range of conductive targets. I like that. I don't care for, and do not want, a modern, digitally-designed detector with a narrow and limited TID reference.

Monte



"Your EYES ... the only 100% accurate form of Discrimination!"

Stinkwater Wells
Trading Post

Metal Detector Evaluations and Product Reviews
'How-To' help for Coin & Jewelry Hunting, Relic Hunting and Useful Techniques.

'Regular-Use Detector Team' are models from: Nokta - Makro, Teknetics, Tesoro and White's
'Specialty-Use Detectors' are models from: Compass, Garrett and Teknetics
Pinpointers: Using Nokta - Makro and Uniprobe Pointers.
Headphones: Using Killer B's 'Hornet' and White's Pro Star and Detector Pro's Uniprobe ... All w/'tank style' ear cups.
Recovery Gear: Using White's DigMaster digging tool and Signature Series pouch.
Note: Detectors are listed alphabetically by Brand. Models are chosen as desired based on search site conditions.
Some models are assigned for 'Regular-Use' and others are on-hand for 'Specialty Use.'
Additional search coils, mounted on spare lower-rods, are on-hand in my Accessory Coil Tote.


*** All working well today to make memories for tomorrow. ***

monte@stinkwaterwells.com .. or .. monte@ahrps.org
(503) 481-8147




Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/11/2018 10:09AM by Monte.

Re: Wonder what's next?????
Posted by: RichW
Date: October 11, 2018 03:38PM
Totally agree. I'm impressed by the way it will hunt in salt water but that's about it.

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Re: Nokta-Makro Detection Technologies didn't replace your unit.
Posted by: mrwilburino
Date: October 12, 2018 09:26AM
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Monte
Uapgrade ability is really just a feature to fix a glitch or do something the engineers feel a definite need to address. It doesn't man a detector is going to be constantly 'upgradeable' because they can't be.

When the ability to upgrade the detector's software via the internet became available on certain models, some took that to mean periodic updates from the manufacturer that would add new features and improvements for free. Almost like getting a new and improved machine every few years without paying anything more for it. Great for the detectorist, but not very profitable for the manufacturer. Not to mention what could actually be accomplished strictly through software upgrades would be limited.

The exception to that, to some degree, has been XP which uses their software updates to introduce new coils and pinpointers for the Deus. Since those accessories actually cost more then some metal detectors, it works out well for XP.



Fisher Teknetics XP Minelab

Re: Wonder what's next?????
Posted by: Dancer
Date: October 15, 2018 06:58PM
Some beaches , more fresh gold is dropped than others. There are some hunters around that hit the 100 gold ring season. That's using today's technology.
How do they do it? Well they got to live close to good water. Second , they know how to hunt. Research, and contacts, shortcuts , lots of experience and time.
The invention of the smart phone, and expensive Tattoos, that's where the young are spending big money on. Spent time observing around average, busy beach won't see gold like back in in the 70's , 80's & 90's. When gold took the big jump, is when things started getting tough for the average hunter. So a $6,000 to $12,000 machine ain't ment for a weekend duffer. In the hands of someone who can hunt once the crowds start leaving till dawn, well maybe.
Waiting till dawn to start, you'll see lots of competition. In order of importance, #1. The site. #2. The Hunter. #3 The Machine
Of course what do I know?
Dancer

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