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search coil comparison for the MXT Pro
Posted by: Confetrit
Date: January 25, 2018 09:50AM
I was wondering if anyone here has the MXT Pro and have by chance used the 12' Whites Super search coil and the 13' Ultimate search coil, and if so what is your take on these two coils? Any feedback regarding this would be most appreciated. I meant to add, that I was trying to find a comparison between these two for Relics. I presently have the 13' Ultimate search coil.

Re: search coil comparison for the MXT Pro
Posted by: sweeper60
Date: January 30, 2018 05:34PM
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Kevin Rose
I was wondering if anyone here has the MXT Pro and have by chance used the 12' Whites Super search coil and the 13' Ultimate search coil, and if so what is your take on these two coils? Any feedback regarding this would be most appreciated. I meant to add, that I was trying to find a comparison between these two for Relics. I presently have the 13' Ultimate search coil.

The 12"/300 coil has more Horsepower, I am not impressed with the 13" coil and there are better options from the same company that weigh the same as the factory 10"DD and is as sensitive as the 4c6 and the 6x10 eclipse coils.

Re: search coil comparison for the MXT Pro
Posted by: cedarswamp
Date: January 30, 2018 11:13PM
I have the mxt e series was going to trade it in for a mx7 gave it one more last hurra started enjoying the machine again now I cant part with it.Going to try the sef 6x8 coil already have the 6x10 and 4x6 had the 10dd but sold it not because it was bad it would go deeper, but not my go to coil.Have other machine for punching deep.I love to work the iron infested spots with the mxt in relic mode switch forward disc on 1# dont miss nothing went over with other machines to no avail great side walk park machine one geat club in my bag ,,,,,CEDAR

Re: search coil comparison for the MXT Pro
Posted by: sweeper60
Date: January 31, 2018 12:33AM
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cedarswamp
I have the mxt e series was going to trade it in for a mx7 gave it one more last hurra started enjoying the machine again now I cant part with it.Going to try the sef 6x8 coil already have the 6x10 and 4x6 had the 10dd but sold it not because it was bad it would go deeper, but not my go to coil.Have other machine for punching deep.I love to work the iron infested spots with the mxt in relic mode switch forward disc on 1# dont miss nothing went over with other machines to no avail great side walk park machine one geat club in my bag ,,,,,CEDAR

For some reason a lot of the Detech Coils really work well on the MXT, more so than on other machines.

Re: search coil comparison for the MXT Pro
Posted by: david bull
Date: March 26, 2018 07:55AM
I use the SEF 8 X 6 as my go to DD coil for its excellent depth and separation in mineralized soil.For a concentric coil,I keep a 9" spider(mx5) coil mounted on a spare shaft as it weighs the same as the SEF 8 X 6.I have found that a lot of the larger coils lose separation due to covering multiple targets at the same time,which skews vdi readings and often pick up minerals in the soil which lowers their depth ability.Smaller coils also pinpoint easier,are easier to control,allow you to hunt longer,and get into tight places.David

Re: search coil comparison for the MXT Pro
Posted by: cedarswamp
Date: March 28, 2018 08:40PM
The 8x6 sef coil is the best coil ive used on the mxt had it a few weeks, and has breathed new life into the e series mxt.I have used most of whites coils, and nothing compares to the preformance best combination of depth and seperation.The smaller coils might get a tad bit more seperation, and larger coils get a tad bit more depth but not much on dime size targets.I dug an old shot gun shell 9-10 inches and I know I could get a dime at ten inches with this small coil in mild dirt you can also crank the gain on this coil.Ive put alot of hours on this machine and this coil will stay on, just my opinion,,,,,CEDAR P.S. I agree with :david bull: as a go to coil

Re: search coil comparison for the MXT Pro
Posted by: mntnflyr4fun
Date: April 08, 2018 09:49PM
All of these discussions should really start out with some discussion about the type of soil you have as where I live (Western Oregon) there is very high concentrations of magnetite or something similar in the soil. (drop a magnet and pick it up and it will be covered with ferrous materials).

It seems common knowledge that in highly mineralized soils (mine) that a DD type coil is going to outperform a concentric of a similar size for depth with the opposite being true in sweet soils. That being said, each may be the right coil on a given day, at a given place, based on soil conditions, including moisture content and mineralization. Hence possibly the need for both of the coils you asked about....

Personally, I recently sold my 12" concentric but kept my Ultimate and a 950 concentric so I had a beach coil. The 12" was just too heavy for me and with its open construction, I couldn't skid it along the ground well without tufts of grass etc.hanging me up and the 950 with its more closed design just handled better and had a lighter feel to it when mounted. When I am in sweet enough soils or beach hunting I am not going to worry about if the coil is limiting my depth more than I am with either my tuning, technique or hearing......

I also have a 10" D2 coil and a 8x6SEF and love em both. For some reason, the 8x6 just seems to run smoother than the D2 or is at least quieter but I find no fault with either. I currently own 6 coils and figure each has its place at any given time and I use multiple coils instead of multiple machines to change up the game a little to get the most out of my PRO.

One last comment, Whites now sells the 8x6 and the Ultimate in competition with their own products which is generally an admission that the market has determined that those two coils outperform the factory equivalents. Not a great strategy in my opinion but nonetheless they seem to be acknowledging the performance gains of the Detech products.

Re: search coil comparison for the MXT Pro
Posted by: sweeper60
Date: July 12, 2018 06:11PM
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mntnflyr4fun
All of these discussions should really start out with some discussion about the type of soil you have as where I live (Western Oregon) there is very high concentrations of magnetite or something similar in the soil. (drop a magnet and pick it up and it will be covered with ferrous materials).

It seems common knowledge that in highly mineralized soils (mine) that a DD type coil is going to outperform a concentric of a similar size for depth with the opposite being true in sweet soils. That being said, each may be the right coil on a given day, at a given place, based on soil conditions, including moisture content and mineralization. Hence possibly the need for both of the coils you asked about....

Personally, I recently sold my 12" concentric but kept my Ultimate and a 950 concentric so I had a beach coil. The 12" was just too heavy for me and with its open construction, I couldn't skid it along the ground well without tufts of grass etc.hanging me up and the 950 with its more closed design just handled better and had a lighter feel to it when mounted. When I am in sweet enough soils or beach hunting I am not going to worry about if the coil is limiting my depth more than I am with either my tuning, technique or hearing......

I also have a 10" D2 coil and a 8x6SEF and love em both. For some reason, the 8x6 just seems to run smoother than the D2 or is at least quieter but I find no fault with either. I currently own 6 coils and figure each has its place at any given time and I use multiple coils instead of multiple machines to change up the game a little to get the most out of my PRO.

One last comment, Whites now sells the 8x6 and the Ultimate in competition with their own products which is generally an admission that the market has determined that those two coils outperform the factory equivalents. Not a great strategy in my opinion but nonetheless they seem to be acknowledging the performance gains of the Detech products.

Actually it was a very wise move on White's behalf to also stock Detech Coils because not only does increase their range of coils without have to spend a penny on R&D but it also adds to the versatility of their machines along with cutting manufacturing costs.

I have at leased 6 or 7 White's Coils and a couple of detech coils and I have found about another 5 or 6 to add to the list, You say you don't like the weight of the 12" concentric coil and I was the same when I first bought one but after nearly 3 weeks and 10/12 hours a day solid detecting I did not even notice it after then,

If you want to know what a heavy Coil feels like get the 15"MXT Max Coil, It weighs 32oz and it will give you a real workout, But man it has some serious depth, For relic or cache hunting it can't be beat, but a guarantee you will have Arms like Poppye and you will sleep well at night after hitting a few beer cans at over 2 or 3 feet deep., Lol.

Re: search coil comparison for the MXT Pro
Posted by: Confetrit
Date: September 13, 2018 02:06PM
Thanks for all the feedback. I have the 10"D2 coil and the 4x6" Shooter coil. The 12" coil is not much more weight than the D2 coil so I would pretty much know what to expect as far as the weight goes. I can comfortably swing the D2 coil pretty much all day taking breaks.

Re: search coil comparison for the MXT Pro
Posted by: sweeper60
Date: September 22, 2018 06:30AM
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Confetrit
Thanks for all the feedback. I have the 10"D2 coil and the 4x6" Shooter coil. The 12" coil is not much more weight than the D2 coil so I would pretty much know what to expect as far as the weight goes. I can comfortably swing the D2 coil pretty much all day taking breaks.

Sorry for the late reply, You should give the Detech 14x10 DD a go, It is as light as the factory 10"DD but it has the depth of the 12" but in mineralized ground it won't loose depth like the concentric will and it is a very hot coil on tiny nuggets and on larger Items it is extremely deep.

hope that helps.

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