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Mx6
Posted by: Texan
Date: November 11, 2017 10:00PM
Got a m6 at compettion hunt.Like info on the machine. How fast is the reaction time and how is it compared to old style mxt?



Etrac [ Fisher1235 and F75 ] Whites Mxt and M6 [ Troy Shadow 5 ] Lesche digger,Whites TRX pinpointer. Love to coinshoot and attend competition hunts.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/11/2017 10:01PM by Texan.

Re: Mx6
Posted by: Albert
Date: November 12, 2017 07:48AM
I’ve had the m6 for years . It’s my number 1 detector . I’ve owned most of the other brands . It’s fast on recovery speed . Love the tone options. And it’s just about as deep as most Detectors out there. Has a few less knobs and options than the mxt. Simply to set up and use . Better than most of the newer offerings in my opinion.

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Re: Mx6
Posted by: OregonGregg
Date: November 12, 2017 01:25PM
The M6 is an MXT in C&J mode. It lacks the other 2 modes ( relic & prospecting) also it is more of a silent search machine and does not have a threshold. Great detector, used one for quite awhile....found lots of nice stuff with my m6.



Makro Racer & Racer 2
Nokta Fors CoRe
Whites MXT & M6

Re: Mx6
Posted by: Texan
Date: November 12, 2017 04:24PM
The use I wanted for this machine is to use at competition hunts when nickels are the targets. It needs fast response and good id for this.



Etrac [ Fisher1235 and F75 ] Whites Mxt and M6 [ Troy Shadow 5 ] Lesche digger,Whites TRX pinpointer. Love to coinshoot and attend competition hunts.

Re: Mx6
Posted by: Texan
Date: November 15, 2017 04:10AM
Called Whites and Mary was very nice and helpful. I explained to her all the use that was needed was detecting nickels at a seeded hunt. My concerns was reaction time,interefence,. I explained that a mxt was a proven competion machine. She assured me an mx6 is the same as mxt except less bells and whistles.So since I own a new m6 decided it would meet my needs. Thanks for all responses and I may coinshoot with it so advise would be welcome.



Etrac [ Fisher1235 and F75 ] Whites Mxt and M6 [ Troy Shadow 5 ] Lesche digger,Whites TRX pinpointer. Love to coinshoot and attend competition hunts.

Re: Mx6
Posted by: 5900_XL-1
Date: November 15, 2017 02:10PM
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Texan
The use I wanted for this machine is to use at competition hunts when nickels are the targets. It needs fast response and good id for this.

You won't be sorry with the M6. It is the best coin-finding machine from Whites I've ever owned. I have two now. Very fast. Nickels ring in very well.



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Re: Mx6
Posted by: slingshot
Date: November 15, 2017 02:20PM
I understand it's like my MX5, just different body style and you can lock groundtrac. My MX5 is blazing fast and would be my choice in a competition hunt. In fact, it's so fast I seldom use the pinpoint- although I can do this after years of pinpointing while in motion with cheaper 2 filter models.

Re: Mx6
Posted by: coinjumper
Date: November 15, 2017 07:46PM
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slingshot
I understand it's like my MX5, just different body style and you can lock groundtrac. My MX5 is blazing fast and would be my choice in a competition hunt. In fact, it's so fast I seldom use the pinpoint- although I can do this after years of pinpointing while in motion with cheaper 2 filter models.
second that

Re: Mx6
Posted by: Texan
Date: November 16, 2017 07:35PM
Must you ground balance to use or is this for better id and depth?



Etrac [ Fisher1235 and F75 ] Whites Mxt and M6 [ Troy Shadow 5 ] Lesche digger,Whites TRX pinpointer. Love to coinshoot and attend competition hunts.

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Re: Mx6
Posted by: Tom Slick
Date: December 02, 2017 06:14PM
We had three M6's used only for competition hunts with HotFoot coils. You don't have to ground balance them but we always did the GB at the hunt site just prior to the start of the hunt. After you GB make sure you switch the Track/Fixed switch to the Fixed position. This helps to eliminate false signals. You can't swing an M6 fast enough to miss nickles like you could on the older Classic series. Swing a Classic too fast over a nickle laying on the surface and you won't hear it.



Arizona
42 years detecting, ex White's dealer.
Current Detectors:
Nokta Impact
Makro Racer 2
Makro Gold Racer
White's DFX x 3
Tesoro Tiger Shark
Minelab Sovereign GT
Fisher F19

Re: Mx6
Posted by: Texan
Date: December 03, 2017 04:09AM
Always use my fisher1236 for competition hunts. They recently started using nickels as targets in on heat. Never needed a vid in competition but on trashy ground I am glad to here the m6 will shine.



Etrac [ Fisher1235 and F75 ] Whites Mxt and M6 [ Troy Shadow 5 ] Lesche digger,Whites TRX pinpointer. Love to coinshoot and attend competition hunts.

Re: Mx6
Posted by: Monte
Date: December 04, 2017 07:58AM
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Texan
Always use my fisher1236 for competition hunts. They recently started using nickels as targets in on heat. Never needed a vid in competition but on trashy ground I am glad to here the m6 will shine.
Jerry, the White's M6, based on the original MXT platform, is just as quick at target response and recovery as the MXT series models, As Tom mentioned, the Classic series, like the modified Classic ID and IDX Pro units I used to own and use a lot, worked 'OK' in Competition Hunts but in more mineralized ground you couldn't get away with a fast sweep due to the circuitry design.

The Classic series, like the Tesoro models and some others out there, to include your Fisher 1236 X, are based on what we used to call "2-Filter" or "Double-Derivative" (Fisher's term for 2-Filter) and are a very quick-response and fast-recovery design, but only to a point and they are at-their-best when working in neutral, lower mineralized and moderate ground conditions, but they do struggle when dealing with higher mineralized ground, black sand, pea gravel, smaller-size rocks, etc. Sweep too quickly and their recovery and response time will be impaired.

The MXT circuitry design is a 3-Filter type technology, similar to the 'Vari-filter' concept used by Compass Electronics back in '87/'88 with the Scanner series. That type circuitry is kind of a blend in performance that allows the moderate-to-faster sweep speed of the 4-Filter types we used to have around, and the slow-motion/quick-response benefits provided by a 2-Filter circuitry. I used to use the MXT then MXT Pro as a main-use relic Hunting detector and the M6 as my urban Coin Hunting model. When I was younger and sprier and my left knee didn't argue with my maneuvers and my back joined in the fun, I really enjoyed Competition Hunts. There used to be a LOT of metal detecting clubs and most of them hosted a Completion Hunt every year.

My primary-use detector for those hunts was a Tesoro starting in mid-'83 due to their quick response and recovery, and that's what I use when I try to hang in their today for a hunt. However, when many clubs changed the way they held hunts, and Target ID models became a more useful tool, the M6 was my TID of choice. Fast motion ability and quick response with functional TID were to my advantage. Eventually the M6 was replaced by White's MX5, and although I don't get around as well as I used to, my 2018 Competition Hunts will be handled by a Tesoro, or when I want TID (most of the time now) I'll use my MX7.

A good detector with a functional VDI (Visual Discrimination Indicator) can be used to your advantage, at least at times. Most Competition Hunts are really speed-and-recovery events and I never pause to look at what I recovered, or clean it off of anything, just go as quickly as possible, get a 'hit' and make a quick recovery and the detector coil is back in action while I put the recovered target in my pouch. After the hunt is over I then look to see what I found. No wasted time checking out a hunt find during the time period.

But the M6 was an advantage for me is a few ways. Yes, I did have the numeric VDI that could help when I wanted to key in on specific targets, such as US nickels or prize tokens of value that were known and had a tighter VDI read-out. But the M6's real benefit, other than having the quick automated GB ability that I could 'lock', having a functional TID, and being a 3-filter type technology that let me hunt more quickly in challenging ground, as the full-range variable Discrimination that let me adjust for 'Zero Disc.'

I entered a lot of Competition Hunts in Oregon and Utah that were held in higher-mineralized ground. To make matters more challenging, many of the people planting the coins and prize tokens in a plowed field or similar site would tire easily. A lot of bending and planting to do, so they would start to make it easier on their self. Just stick a coin ... or two or three coins ... under a rock or a dirt clod, or down into pea gravel or highly mineralized sand.

If a detector's lowest Discriminate setting is rejecting nails and most iron, or if the detector operator in a competition Hunt doesn't want to find trash so they set their Disc. level to maybe just barely accept the 5¢ planted coins, then odds are they are not going to get a good response on a coin or token planted under a rock, a dirt clod, in pea gravel or highly mineralized black sand. Whan I used my favorite Tesoro models, once the mad dash 10-15 minutes of a hunt was over and targets started to thin out, I would toggle to the Threshold-based All Metal mode and concentrate on the above mentioned target-maskers. When using the White's M6, or a comparable model today, I search with the Disc. at the minimum ... all metal accept ... setting, also know as Zero Disc. or All Metal Acceptance in the motion-based Disc. mode.

Give that M6 a good workout in a Competition Hunt, or try to simulate such a search, and I think you'll find the M6 does put some advantages in your favor.

Monte



"Your EYES ... the only 100% accurate form of Discrimination!"

Stinkwater Wells
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Metal Detector Evaluations and Product Reviews
'How-To' help for Coin & Jewelry Hunting, Relic Hunting and Useful Techniques.

My Regular-Use Detector Team are from:
Makro, Nokta, Tesoro and White's
Note: Detectors are listed alphabetically by Brand. Models are chosen as desired based on search site conditions.
Additional search coils. mounted on spare lower-rods, are on-hand in my Accessory Coil Tote.
Pinpointers: Using Nokta and Makro Pointers.
Headphones: Using White's Pro Star w/'tank style' ear cups.
Recovery Tools: Using White's Ground Hawg Shovel and DigMaster digging tools.

*** All working well today to make memories for tomorrow. ***

monte@stinkwaterwells.com .. or .. monte@ahrps.org
(503) 481-8147


Re: Mx6
Posted by: Texan
Date: December 04, 2017 08:50AM
Monty I live in Texas and competition hunt primarily here and in Oklahoma.The ground is very sweet and no or little mineralization.I have tried a Tesoro in competition hunting but am not as at home with the coil pinpointing as I swing as my old fisher. You very well know being relaxed and comfortable is important in competition hunting. I traded for the m6 at a competition hunt with hopes of using the vdi in a nickel heat.
Originally I planned to skip the next nickel hunt heat at the next competitive hunt but instead plan to use the m6.I thought the reaction time was fast but was just checking.



Etrac [ Fisher1235 and F75 ] Whites Mxt and M6 [ Troy Shadow 5 ] Lesche digger,Whites TRX pinpointer. Love to coinshoot and attend competition hunts.

Best of success on those next hunts, and I envy
Posted by: Monte
Date: December 04, 2017 04:28PM
the fact you get to hunt in such mild ground conditions. I've hunted in several parts of Texas and Oklahoma in years past and was pleased with the easier-to-get coin depth in that good ground compared to where I hunt in Oregon, Nevada, Utah, etc.

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Monty I live in Texas and competition hunt primarily here and in Oklahoma.The ground is very sweet and no or little mineralization.I have tried a Tesoro in competition hunting but am not as at home with the coil pinpointing as I swing as my old fisher. You very well know being relaxed and comfortable is important in competition hunting. I traded for the m6 at a competition hunt with hopes of using the vdi in a nickel heat.

Originally I planned to skip the next nickel hunt heat at the next competitive hunt but instead plan to use the m6.I thought the reaction time was fast but was just checking.
You don't want to ignore those nickel zone read-outs as a lot of prize tokens are made of similar-conductivity metal objects. As for Tesoro's and Pinpointing, it's a breeze! But I use 6", 7" and 8" Concentric coils in the hunts I participate in, and in the past several years it's mainly been the 6" Concentric coil. I never have an issue when it comes to isolating a target with a Tesoro & a Concentric coil.

I know some think a 6" is awfully small for a Competition Hunt, but for me and the pace I can hunt at anymore, it still works wonders for me..

Monte



"Your EYES ... the only 100% accurate form of Discrimination!"

Stinkwater Wells
Trading Post

Metal Detector Evaluations and Product Reviews
'How-To' help for Coin & Jewelry Hunting, Relic Hunting and Useful Techniques.

My Regular-Use Detector Team are from:
Makro, Nokta, Tesoro and White's
Note: Detectors are listed alphabetically by Brand. Models are chosen as desired based on search site conditions.
Additional search coils. mounted on spare lower-rods, are on-hand in my Accessory Coil Tote.
Pinpointers: Using Nokta and Makro Pointers.
Headphones: Using White's Pro Star w/'tank style' ear cups.
Recovery Tools: Using White's Ground Hawg Shovel and DigMaster digging tools.

*** All working well today to make memories for tomorrow. ***

monte@stinkwaterwells.com .. or .. monte@ahrps.org
(503) 481-8147


Re: Mx6
Posted by: Texan
Date: December 05, 2017 07:53AM
I have saw people use a shooter coil and do well. Really enjoyed the talk about competition hunting because very few will discuss this aspect of detecting.



Etrac [ Fisher1235 and F75 ] Whites Mxt and M6 [ Troy Shadow 5 ] Lesche digger,Whites TRX pinpointer. Love to coinshoot and attend competition hunts.

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