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Some points to ponder in the 1000 page heath bill that Obama won't be telling you about. He is a huckster, a shyster, a smooth talking scam man, a shuck& jive master but in just 6 month the ones that didn't believes are staring to see the light ~
Posted by: Vernon in Virginia~Formerly Alaska
Date: July 24, 2009 09:18AM
Following the mad recommendations of Peter Singer made in NYT's Sunday
magazine, it pays to take a look at what is actually in the healthcare

It's worse than you can possibly imagine. Somehow, it manages to be
Singer on steroids. Who wrote this bill. It has Singer's footprints all
over it.

Peter Fleckstein (aka Fleckman) is reading it and has been posting on
Twitter his findings. This is from his postings (Note: All comments are

Pg 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Government will audit books of ALL
EMPLOYERS that self insure!!

decides what treatments/benefits you get

Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill - YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED!!!

Pg 42 of HC Bill - The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your
HealthCare Benefits for you. You have no choice!

PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HealthCare will be provided to ALL non US
citizens, illegal or otherwise

Pg 58HC Bill - Government will have real-time access to individuals
finances & a National ID Healthcard will be issued!

Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Government will have direct access to your
banks accts for electronic funds transfer

PG 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their
families in Unions & community orgs (ACORN).

Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Government is creating an HealthCare Exchange to bring
private HealthCare plans under Government control.

PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill - Government mandates ALL benefit packages for
private HealthCare plans in the Exchange

PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs for of Benefit Levels for Plans = The
Government will ration your Healthcare!

PG 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill - Government mandates linguistic appropriate
services.. Example - Translation for illegal aliens

Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Government will use groups i.e., ACORN &
Americorps to sign up individual for Government HC plan

PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs of Ben Levels 4 Plans. #AARP members -
Universal Health care WILL be rationed

-PG 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill - Medicaid Eligible Individual. will be
automatically enrolled in Medicaid. No choice

pg 124 lines 24-25 HC No company can sue GOVERNMENT on price fixing. No
"judicial review" against Government Monopoly

pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill - Doctors/ #AMA - The Government will tell YOU
what you can make.

Pg 145 Line 15-17 An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into public opt

Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay for HealthCare for part time
employees AND their families.

Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Employer with payroll of 400k & above who does
not provide public option pays 8% tax on all payroll

pg 150 Lines 9-13 Business with payroll between 251k & 400k who doesn't
provide public option pays 2-6% tax on all payroll

Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesn't have acceptable HealthCare
according to Government will be taxed 2.5% of income

Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual
taxes. (Americans will pay)

Pg 195 HC Bill -officers & employees of HealthCare Admin (GOVERNMENT)
will have access to ALL Americans finances/personal records

PG 203 Line 14-15 HC - "The tax imposed under this section shall not be
treated as tax" Yes, it says that

Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Government will reduce physician services for
Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected

Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill - Doctors, doesn't matter what specialty you
have, you'll all be paid the same

PG 253 Line 10-18 Government sets value of Dr's time, professional
judgment, etc. Literally value of humans.

PG 265 Sec 1131 Government mandates & controls productivity for private
HealthCare industries

PG 268 Sec 1141 Fed Government regulates rental & purchase of power
driven wheelchairs

patients - welcome to rationing!

Page 280 Sec 1151 The Government will penalize hospitals for what
Government deems preventable readmissions.

Pg 298 Lines 9-11 Drs, treat a patient during initial admission that
results in a readmiss-Govt will penalize you.

Pg 317 L 13-20 PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Government tells
Drs. what/how much they can own..

Pg 317-318 lines 21-25,1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion- Government is
mandating hospitals cannot expand

pg 321 2-13 Hospitals have option to apply for exception BUT community
input required. Can you say ACORN?!!

Pg335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339 - Government mandates establishment of outcome
based measures. HealthCare the way they want. Rationing

Pg 341 Lines 3-9 Government has authority to disqualify Medicare Advance
Plans, HMOs, etc. Forcing people into the Government plan

Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Government will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs

Pg 379 Sec 1191 Government creates more bureaucracy - Telehealth
Advisory committee. Can you say HealthCare by phone?

PG 425 Lines 4-12 Government mandates Advance Care Planning Consult.
Think Senior Citizens end of life

Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Government will instruct & consult regarding living
wills, durable powers of attorney. Mandatory!

PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Government provides approved list of
end of life resources, guiding you in death

PG 427 Lines 15-24 Government mandates program for orders for end of
life. The Government has a say in how your life ends

Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An "Advance care planning consult" will be used
frequently as patients health deteriorates

PG 429 Lines 10-12 "Advance care consultation" may include an ORDER for
end of life plans. AN ORDER from GOV

Pg 429 Lines 13-25 - The Government will specify which Doctors can write
an end of life order.

PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Government will decide what level of treatment
you will have at end of life

Pg 469 - Community Based Home Medical Services=Non profit organizations
Hello, ACORN Medical services here!!?

Page 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORG. 1 monthly payment
to a community-based organization Like ACORN?

PG 489 Sec 1308 The Government will cover Marriage & Family therapy.
Which means they will insert Government into your marriage

Pg 494-498 Government will cover Mental Health Services including
defining, creating, rationing those services
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Posted by: Craig in Alabama
Date: July 24, 2009 09:38AM

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ChecK this out, click on link and sound clip should auto play. This is on the Fred Thompson show. :surprised:
Posted by: Vernon in Virginia~Formerly Alaska
Date: July 24, 2009 12:36PM
Where o where shall we begin :confused::blink::sadwalk:N/T
Posted by: Brian(upstateNY)
Date: July 24, 2009 03:00PM

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crazy man. with crazy ideas... a man of change,, I wonder of the 52% likes the changes he is bringing ?N/T
Posted by: charlie (ky)
Date: July 24, 2009 04:01PM

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That was a good clip. Thanks for the info Vern. Some evil people running the show right now.N/T
Posted by: Jim C (Mich)
Date: July 24, 2009 04:03PM

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I can't believe anyone voted for that load of @#$%& :thumbup: ...I have a plan to fix health care ..
Posted by: Craig in Alabama
Date: July 24, 2009 04:43PM
According to Obama..2/3 of the cost of health care today is wasted on fraud and mis-management in regards to Medicare and Medicaid. Well...reform those and guess care is affordable for everyone. DUHHH

Yep and we're talking some serious waste someone's getting fat off that.N/T
Posted by: Vernon in Virginia~Formerly Alaska
Date: July 24, 2009 04:46PM

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:lol: your load of @#$%& shows in the reply header :lol: that pc of human @#$%& @#$%& @#$%& there I'll say it again @#$%&... :rofl: oh I feel better now... I think :shrug:N/T
Posted by: Brian(upstateNY)
Date: July 24, 2009 05:25PM

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I did not know that :rofl: ...sometimes ya gotta say whats on your mind :DN/T
Posted by: Craig in Alabama
Date: July 24, 2009 06:11PM

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Dont say that to me :lol: :DN/T
Posted by: Brian(upstateNY)
Date: July 24, 2009 06:18PM

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Posted by: Vernon in Virginia~Formerly Alaska
Date: July 24, 2009 06:42PM
hahaha ................ :lol:N/T
Posted by: General Ray
Date: July 24, 2009 09:50PM

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Simple and yet still true :thumbup:N/T
Posted by: Craig in Alabama
Date: July 24, 2009 10:14PM

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Re: heath bill ... Hey ! Canada is supposed to be the ...............
Posted by: Tom in Victoria
Date: July 25, 2009 12:35AM
..... socialist country. Your Pres. is, I think, a bonafide socialist and is going waaaay beyond into the realm of Big Brother, 1984 , and a few other " isms " ! I live ( check the map ) south of the 49th and I can sort of see both sides and tend to say things like that !:detecting:

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