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Liberty seated dollars
Posted by: EddieB
Date: February 12, 2018 01:50PM
Hey Guys, I needs some help. I just recently found a 1873cc liberty dollar. I cleaned it up and was looking at it and it slipped out of my hand and hit my wood desktop. It suprise me when it hit, (it didn't have the sweet silver sound when dropped), I compared it with a morgan and the morgan was what I expected, a nice sweet ring. I weighed the two both was about 26.53 grams, both the same thickness and diameter. My morgan air test id was 1/45 and the seated was 1/43. Do I possibly have a half worm forgery or not? I thought I ask you all before I take it to a coin dealer. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

Thanks, EddieBee

Re: Liberty seated dollars
Posted by: BigTony
Date: February 12, 2018 02:27PM
The only I test I know you can do without damage is using a magnet, if it attracts then it’s a fake.
You can get specifics in the listing of the Red book, weight and such.
Hopefully others will have more suggestions.
Congratulations! Was it a recent find?



BigTony

Re: Liberty seated dollars
Posted by: 5900_XL-1
Date: February 12, 2018 04:11PM
Just my take, conductive 45 versus 43 on the 1873 Seated, a coin likely been in the ground the extra 50 years longer than a Morgan dollar. My guess is that the Seated silver composition slightly altered the conductivity, and the think-sound. I notice that any Barber coin of denomination, rings less than say a Mercury dime, or a Barber quarter, compared to the Washington. Besides, being it weighs like the Morgan, it'd surprise me if it wasn't real. Aluminum sure can fool me though. It is an interesting discussion.



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Re: Liberty seated dollars
Posted by: EddieB
Date: February 12, 2018 04:35PM
Thank you Big Tony and 5900 XL-1, I've already done those things. The appearance, weight, diameter, thickness, and non-magnetic. The conductive test with an ice cube, what spokes me is the sound. Thanks again, EddieBee

Re: Liberty seated dollars
Posted by: Dale(Ia)
Date: February 12, 2018 08:42PM
Eddie, can you post a picture? The '73-cc books for $7000 in just "Good", condition..........Could it possibly be a Chinese "knock-off" ? Can you share with us the details of it being found? (Depth,type of location) If real, that's one helluva find!!!:clapping:
Good Luck!

Iowa Dale

Re: Liberty seated dollars
Posted by: 5900_XL-1
Date: February 12, 2018 08:48PM
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Dale(Ia)
Eddie, can you post a picture? The '73-cc books for $7000 in just "Good", condition..........Could it possibly be a Chinese "knock-off" ? Can you share with us the details of it being found? (Depth,type of location) If real, that's one helluva find!!!:clapping:
Good Luck!

Iowa Dale

"Could it possibly be a Chinese "knock-off"

Phrase comes to mind, "Velly interesting!"

Re: Liberty seated dollars
Posted by: EddieB
Date: February 12, 2018 09:37PM
Here's some pics, I was really sweating bullets for the cc markings! All I will say is that it was found in central indiana.




Re: Liberty seated dollars
Posted by: Dale(Ia)
Date: February 12, 2018 10:29PM
Hmmm...First, let me say I am NOT an expert! I went to PCGS price guide & looked at enlarged pics & could see some small differences in the shape of some details & especially the end of the motto ribbon (after trust) . The PCGS pic shows the end of the ribbon curling alot farther down ( toward the bottom of the coin) But I certainly can't tell just by looking at a picture.....It would take an expert with it in hand to tell for sure! But boy, she sure looks nice! That's just a "killer" find!

Dale

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Re: Liberty seated dollars
Posted by: MarkCZ
Date: February 13, 2018 12:44AM
Looking at pictures of the coin in my Red Book (both sides) and as many details as possible yours looks to be the REAL DEAL!
Another thing about it being a fake or not, is if you dug it up out of the ground at a depth that would have put it there for at lest a number of years
and it not pit and or corrode! meaning to be a crap alloy knock off it would have probably not held up like silver!
I'd say cash it in! unless you've just got LOADS of money and don't have any use for the cash! LoL

And to farther note!
The composition of both coins the Liberty Seated and the Morgan Dollar is the SAME!
.900 Silver .100 Copper


Mark



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Re: Liberty seated dollars
Posted by: EddieB
Date: February 13, 2018 06:06AM
Thank you all for your impute! It's going to a coin dealer today to see. Thanks again.

EddieBee

Re: Liberty seated dollars
Posted by: IDXMonster
Date: February 13, 2018 06:50AM
It looks very real to me as well after some pic comparison,and just the general look of what a coin should look like as fas as overall appearance. I wouldn’t sell it today no matter what,unless he offered a RIDICULOUS amount(thousands). Take your time on this one! Unbelievable find Eddie...

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Re: Liberty seated dollars
Posted by: HighPlainsHunter
Date: February 13, 2018 10:38AM
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EddieB
Thank you all for your impute! It's going to a coin dealer today to see. Thanks again.

EddieBee

Be careful of "Looks fake to me, I'll give you $20 just for the novelty..."

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Re: Liberty seated dollars
Posted by: MarkCZ
Date: February 13, 2018 11:14AM
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HighPlainsHunter

Thank you all for your impute! It's going to a coin dealer today to see. Thanks again.

EddieBee

Be careful of "Looks fake to me, I'll give you $20 just for the novelty..."

I was thinking the EXACT same thing!!!!
Now if the dealer offers you more than $100 dollars for it then they've identified it as REAL!!

Mark

Re: Liberty seated dollars
Posted by: IDXMonster
Date: February 13, 2018 12:35PM
2,300 struck. Rarest of the rare. Many many thousand dollar coin if certified as real. Guard with your life.

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Re: Liberty seated dollars
Posted by: HighPlainsHunter
Date: February 13, 2018 01:10PM
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MarkCZ


Thank you all for your impute! It's going to a coin dealer today to see. Thanks again.

EddieBee

Be careful of "Looks fake to me, I'll give you $20 just for the novelty..."

I was thinking the EXACT same thing!!!!
Now if the dealer offers you more than $100 dollars for it then they've identified it as REAL!!

Mark

An old hunting buddy of mine found a rare $10 gold piece back in 1986. I held that coin in my hand after he found it. Here is a link to the coin now:

Roster of 1850 Dubosq & Co. Ten Dollar Gold Pieces
1. MS61 NGC. Found in a Placerville, California creekbed in 1985; purchased by Ron Gillio; Long Beach Sale (Pacific Coast Auction Galleries, 6/1987), lot 1814, realized $55,000.
2. MS60 NGC. Discovered in the San Francisco Bay area in May of 1986 by Allan Pankey, of Breckinridge, Colorado, using a metal detector; ANA Convention Auction (Kagin's, 8/1986), lot 5456, bought-in at $46,200; unknown intermediaries; the present coin.

This is a link to a sale of that coin in 2014:

https://coins.ha.com/itm/territorial-gold/1850-10-dubosq-and-co-ten-dollar-ms60-ngc-k-2-r7/a/1204-5434.s

O.P. needs to be very careful...

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