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Whites 5.3 coil Hitting a 9+ inch penny and dime on V3i?
Posted by: Tony N (Michigan)
Date: November 16, 2017 04:32PM
Well, I wasn't expecting too much. I just received the Whites 5.3 coil the other day. Took it out to the coin garden
to see if it would hit my 9+ inch penny and dime.
I started out in High Pro. Nada.
Then went to Deep Silver. Nada.

I tried different sensitivity settings and RX Gain and Max boot etc.

If anyone has a super duper setting for me to try, I'm all ears.

Thanks!
Tony

Re: Whites 5.3 coil Hitting a 9+ inch penny and dime on V3i?
Posted by: john67
Date: November 16, 2017 10:05PM
my 5.3 will barely hit my seven inch silver dime and only in deep silver rx12+, sense 85+ and 5 band filter. probably wont see it hit any coins at 8 or 9 unless you have close to zero mineral ground. smaller coils are more for separation than depth. stick with the 950, D2 or the UL13 if you want depth. My 5.3 usually only comes out when I'm hunting in the woods because its a closed coil and doesn't hang up on everything. it does go a little deeper and id is a little better than my 6x10 in my ground around NWPA.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/16/2017 10:08PM by john67.

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Re: Whites 5.3 coil Hitting a 9+ inch penny and dime on V3i?
Posted by: Tony N (Michigan)
Date: November 17, 2017 07:30AM
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john67
my 5.3 will barely hit my seven inch silver dime and only in deep silver rx12+, sense 85+ and 5 band filter. probably wont see it hit any coins at 8 or 9 unless you have close to zero mineral ground. smaller coils are more for separation than depth. stick with the 950, D2 or the UL13 if you want depth. My 5.3 usually only comes out when I'm hunting in the woods because its a closed coil and doesn't hang up on everything. it does go a little deeper and id is a little better than my 6x10 in my ground around NWPA.

Thanks, john67.
Question: When I really crank up the 5.3 I hear like a fast clicking noise. Does yours do that as well? I hope nothing is wrong with the coil. When I first put it on I forgot to go into the software and change the coil from the 10" to the 5.3. I hope I didn't hurt the coil.
Yea, I got mine for woods and super trashy areas of places I detect.

Re: Whites 5.3 coil Hitting a 9+ inch penny and dime on V3i?
Posted by: john67
Date: November 17, 2017 09:47AM
the coil setting only affects your depth reading. the fast clicking noise is the coil overloading. as long as it doesn't do it at RX15 without boost on its a good coil. if you have boost on it might overload at RX6 or 8. I've only used boost a couple of times because I don't seem to notice much difference with it. no you cant hurt the coil with any settings.

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Re: Whites 5.3 coil Hitting a 9+ inch penny and dime on V3i?
Posted by: Wayfarer
Date: November 17, 2017 11:12AM
My 5.3 goes about as deep as my 6x10DD, about 6-7," so what you are describing sounds about right. Of course, depth is highly soil dependent, but in my fairly mild soil, that's what I get. As for the clicking, I can't tell you. If it's when you hold it up in the air away from the ground or targets, then you might have a bad coil, but I can't really say.



Current detectors: White's V3i, MXT, XL Pro
Past: White's XLT, 6000D Series 3, Coinmaster 2DB, Minelab CTX 3030, Fisher Gold Bug Pro
Location: Western Idaho
Detecting since 1980

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Tony....do you have any machine that hits those coins using a small coil ?
Posted by: therover
Date: November 18, 2017 09:33AM
Just curious since that 5.3 inch Whites coil isn't known as a depth demon.

What 5 inch coil/unit combination do you have now that hits that 9+ inch penny or dime ?

The only 2 combos that I have in my arsenal that MIGHT hit those coins with a small coil would be my E-Trac with 5 inch Sunray and CZ6a with the 5 inch coil....but again that's a stretch.

Coin gardens are always a great way to test things out but the one limiting factor that sets them apart from real world hunts is...you know where the target is. I believe that always plays a part in getting a unit to 'detect' a coin deeper. One kinda knows the exact spot or close to it, where that coin is.

In real world hunts, one has no idea what is under that ground.

Setting the V3i up with the 5.3 coil, to sniff out good targets in the 6-7 inch range in a trashy park like setting, is where that combo shines. Trying to get a few more inches out of that combo in my opinion, starts having the V3i run unstable and false signals start to creep in.

Re: Tony....do you have any machine that hits those coins using a small coil ?
Posted by: john67
Date: November 18, 2017 11:51AM
I agree with therover

Re: Tony....do you have any machine that hits those coins using a small coil ?
Posted by: Tony (Michigan)
Date: November 18, 2017 03:28PM
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therover
Just curious since that 5.3 inch Whites coil isn't known as a depth demon.

What 5 inch coil/unit combination do you have now that hits that 9+ inch penny or dime ?

The only 2 combos that I have in my arsenal that MIGHT hit those coins with a small coil would be my E-Trac with 5 inch Sunray and CZ6a with the 5 inch coil....but again that's a stretch.

Coin gardens are always a great way to test things out but the one limiting factor that sets them apart from real world hunts is...you know where the target is. I believe that always plays a part in getting a unit to 'detect' a coin deeper. One kinda knows the exact spot or close to it, where that coin is.

In real world hunts, one has no idea what is under that ground.

Setting the V3i up with the 5.3 coil, to sniff out good targets in the 6-7 inch range in a trashy park like setting, is where that combo shines. Trying to get a few more inches out of that combo in my opinion, starts having the V3i run unstable and false signals start to creep in.

I don't think I have an equivalent size coil for my other detectors.
But, yea, I wasn't really hoping for much. However, on High Pro I can hit the two coins. I tested that after posting the original post in this thread.
Would I dig those signals out in the wild? Yes. They were iffy enough to dig. However, the detector was a little erratic. And like you say, it is better to use the coil where it really shines. I was just curious if I could get it to hit the coins.

Re: Whites 5.3 coil Hitting a 9+ inch penny and dime on V3i?
Posted by: Tony (Michigan)
Date: November 18, 2017 03:30PM
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Wayfarer
My 5.3 goes about as deep as my 6x10DD, about 6-7," so what you are describing sounds about right. Of course, depth is highly soil dependent, but in my fairly mild soil, that's what I get. As for the clicking, I can't tell you. If it's when you hold it up in the air away from the ground or targets, then you might have a bad coil, but I can't really say.

That's good to know Wayfarer. I'm still getting tricked on bent wire and some modern nails.

Re: Whites 5.3 coil Hitting a 9+ inch penny and dime on V3i?
Posted by: squirrel1
Date: November 30, 2017 11:00PM
Hitting a 9" dime with such a small coil is a stretch for any Vlf detector.
You should be worried more about hitting 9" deep coins with the stock coil.

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Re: Whites 5.3 coil Hitting a 9+ inch penny and dime on V3i?
Posted by: Tony N (Michigan)
Date: December 01, 2017 01:01PM
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squirrel1
Hitting a 9" dime with such a small coil is a stretch for any Vlf detector.
You should be worried more about hitting 9" deep coins with the stock coil.

Hey squirrel1, how ya doin ole buddy ole pal? :-)
Yea, I knew that before even doing the test that it would probably not hit or if it did, hit very lightly.

The stock D2 coil hits VERY well on those 9+" deep coins. They might even be down to 10" by now.
I can lift the D2 10" coil about three inches off the ground and still hit on those coins. It is not as good a hit as scrubbing the ground but
nonetheless it is a digable hit.

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