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Re: ascending and descending hills nets me a Max Keeper:clap:
Posted by: bootyhoundpa
Date: November 03, 2017 08:39PM
Sweet find for sure ELP...nicely done. .. ive only found 2 my whole career. ...

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Re: ascending and descending hills nets me a Max Keeper:clap:
Posted by: earthlypotluck
Date: November 04, 2017 08:40PM
Thanks bhpa. This is my 3rd seated dime in my whole career. Very hard to find them as most places have been hammered hard. So I hammer back even harder in places that others have left for dead hoping to find something they missed. :detecting:


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Sweet find for sure ELP...nicely done. .. ive only found 2 my whole career. ...



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Re: ascending and descending hills nets me a Max Keeper:clap:
Posted by: wyohunter99
Date: November 04, 2017 09:08PM
Awesome finds! Still looking for my first seated.

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Re: ascending and descending hills nets me a Max Keeper:clap:
Posted by: kaolinwasher
Date: December 07, 2017 07:40AM
Epic find Jim, love the way that 2 is lower than the 8 and you did not even give it a birth scar



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Re: ascending and descending hills nets me a Max Keeper:clap:
Posted by: earthlypotluck
Date: December 07, 2017 11:53AM
Not this time :rofl:



Fear is paralyzing and courage is liberating. No matter what is put in front of you, there is always a way to make it work.

Dreams are just dreams, goals are dreams with deadlines. The desire to succeed comes from within. Stay focused on your goals, and if people say that you can’t do something, get them out of your life and move on.

Re: ascending and descending hills nets me a Max Keeper:clap:
Posted by: MikeLab
Date: December 07, 2017 09:12PM
Very nice. Just thinking out loud here, I have found hills require ground balancing much more often. Could it be that those who were there before you did not follow that rule? Especially the AT Max because it has such wide range of GB. I suggest everybody read as much as you can about it. Read the AT Gold manual, too. I found a lot of good info in a nugget hunting book ZIp Zip the second edition. Those nugget hunters swear by the exact GB. I admit they are working in rough ground, but that's where people miss targets. I just think most people are not that concerned about it and I think that's a big mistake.

Re: ascending and descending hills nets me a Max Keeper:clap:
Posted by: MikeLab
Date: December 09, 2017 05:19PM
They want a fortune for those used Zip Zip books. Basically he talks about there is sometimes a layer just an inch or so off the ground and you need to balance to that. Only lift the coil a short distance off the ground. He says sometimes only pump it a fraction of an inch off the ground. Sometimes you can hear that layer. I think it depends on the machine.

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Re: ascending and descending hills nets me a Max Keeper:clap:
Posted by: earthlypotluck
Date: December 09, 2017 05:38PM
Interesting book you are reading there Mike.





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They want a fortune for those used Zip Zip books. Basically he talks about there is sometimes a layer just an inch or so off the ground and you need to balance to that. Only lift the coil a short distance off the ground. He says sometimes only pump it a fraction of an inch off the ground. Sometimes you can hear that layer. I think it depends on the machine.



Fear is paralyzing and courage is liberating. No matter what is put in front of you, there is always a way to make it work.

Dreams are just dreams, goals are dreams with deadlines. The desire to succeed comes from within. Stay focused on your goals, and if people say that you can’t do something, get them out of your life and move on.

Re: ascending and descending hills nets me a Max Keeper:clap:
Posted by: MikeLab
Date: December 09, 2017 06:49PM
With the double D coil it is not as prevalent. A concentric coil you can hear that layer when you lift or lower the coil. No way I can balance to a fraction of an inch, but I try to keep it as low as possible when pumping. Of course they recommend to bury a small nugget deep enough so you can barely hear it, then adjust for the best response. I recall an old guy around here told me he buried a 22 casing and tuned to that. Point is you want it deep enough so it is really hard to hear.

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Re: ascending and descending hills nets me a Max Keeper:clap:
Posted by: earthlypotluck
Date: December 09, 2017 08:37PM
Thanks Mike! Very interesting and you have provided me with some very good information. Thinking and pondering upon what you stated, I'd listen to that old guy I see exactly what he is trying to get at :cheers:



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With the double D coil it is not as prevalent. A concentric coil you can hear that layer when you lift or lower the coil. No way I can balance to a fraction of an inch, but I try to keep it as low as possible when pumping. Of course they recommend to bury a small nugget deep enough so you can barely hear it, then adjust for the best response. I recall an old guy around here told me he buried a 22 casing and tuned to that. Point is you want it deep enough so it is really hard to hear.



Fear is paralyzing and courage is liberating. No matter what is put in front of you, there is always a way to make it work.

Dreams are just dreams, goals are dreams with deadlines. The desire to succeed comes from within. Stay focused on your goals, and if people say that you can’t do something, get them out of your life and move on.

Re: ascending and descending hills nets me a Max Keeper:clap:
Posted by: MikeLab
Date: December 10, 2017 08:09AM
Yeah, I kinda added to what he said as per the book--bury it so you can barely hear it, then tune to it. The point the book makes is you won't get a good balance unless you have a weak target to balance to. Getting back to the hill sides, with the AT Gold I balance about every ten feet, so the Max probably requires even more often (on the hill sides). After some practice it just becomes automatic and it's not difficult in the first place. Never timed it, but like five seconds.

Another good thing I got out of the book, he taught nugget hunting. When a student was not looking he would throw a nugget out in front of their path then tell them to find.All of the sudden the student would be so meticulous in their search. Then once they found it, it was back to swinging haphazardly. I used to practice in my yard with a gold ring. I got so I could hear that specific oomph the gold made, well at least with the AT Gold. Even if the target makes a rough signal, there is still that extra whatever that is noticeable.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/10/2017 08:16AM by MikeLab.

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Re: ascending and descending hills nets me a Max Keeper:clap:
Posted by: earthlypotluck
Date: December 10, 2017 01:13PM
Hi Mike,

I never use to GB balance as much as I do now. When I hunt hills or even walk across a path to hit the other side of my hunting grounds, I'll quickly scan and find a clean patch then GB. Its usually off slightly but that can make all the difference. I probably take that much time as well (5 seconds) if not longer when GB'ing. I listen as attentively as I can to make sure the Max is completely GB'd as best as possible. One place I hunt has Maple Trees in one section and Pine Trees in the other. However these two locations which are a stones throw away from each other, there is about a 5 point spread between the two locations.
Maple Tree area 91, Pine Tree area - 95-96. Just goes to show that changes happen more rapidly than hunters realize and could be costing them treasures.


Thanks again for the tidbit of info. Very interesting indeed! :cheers:



Fear is paralyzing and courage is liberating. No matter what is put in front of you, there is always a way to make it work.

Dreams are just dreams, goals are dreams with deadlines. The desire to succeed comes from within. Stay focused on your goals, and if people say that you can’t do something, get them out of your life and move on.

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Re: ascending and descending hills nets me a Max Keeper:clap:
Posted by: Gannon
Date: December 13, 2017 10:02PM
Well done!!:super:



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