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Real Bad Interference
Posted by: okara gold
Date: March 05, 2018 03:55PM
Lately when using my ATX in the water at different Florida beaches the machine is so unstable from some kind of interference that I have to turn the sensitivity down to 7 or 8 to make it usable. I run a frequency check before I start and it doesn't help. It seems that when sensitivity is set higher all of a sudden a low tone is suddenly heard and sets the sound off to the point of a constant high low rapid sound. So frustrating. Only thing that helps is running at 6, 7 or 8 on sensitivity. I don't want to hunt that way and loose so much depth. I used the machine out of the water at the same beach yesterday and I could run sens. at 11 to 12 with no problems. I also have an Infinium that has no interference problems at all. Any thoughts on this? Thanks!

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Re: Real Bad Interference
Posted by: WaterWalker
Date: March 05, 2018 05:16PM
7-8 is normal here in New England's salt water.

Re: Real Bad Interference
Posted by: okara gold
Date: March 05, 2018 05:31PM
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WaterWalker
7-8 is normal here in New England's salt water.

Do you ever get interference from power lines or other electrical sources that the "frequency scan" can't fix?

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Re: Real Bad Interference
Posted by: WaterWalker
Date: March 05, 2018 10:14PM
Only time I really had a problem was when the High Speed Acela train was passing the beach.
The interference started about 7 minutes before it passed and 5 minutes after. However, if I stayed out deep
with the ATX underwater...no problem. Same thing happened with the Infinium and Excalibur.
I have not been to that Connecticut beach since 2009.

Re: Real Bad Interference
Posted by: an khe
Date: March 06, 2018 12:10PM
Last year I was hunting down in the keys at Bahia Honda state park and was having issues getting my atx to settle down, it was terrible. When I got back home I sent it to Garrett. They replaced the coil and check the machine out. They treated me well. I would sent it in and see what they say about it.I knew I had a bad coil because I switch coils and it help settle it down. I had the stock coil and 8 inch mono. Happy Hunting

Re: Real Bad Interference
Posted by: okara gold
Date: March 06, 2018 05:26PM
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an khe
Last year I was hunting down in the keys at Bahia Honda state park and was having issues getting my atx to settle down, it was terrible. When I got back home I sent it to Garrett. They replaced the coil and check the machine out. They treated me well. I would sent it in and see what they say about it.I knew I had a bad coil because I switch coils and it help settle it down. I had the stock coil and 8 inch mono. Happy Hunting

Now you've got my curiosity up... When I got to the beach I stood near the waters edge and started things up doing a freq. scan etc. All was fine. As soon as I got into the water about knee deep the machine got very erratic. Not the normal drifting associated with swells and salt water but constant hi/lo.
Perhaps the salt water contacting something that shouldn't get wet caused the problem. When I got home I thoroughly washed the machine in fresh water and let it dry. Later that night in my yard I did a test and all worked perfectly. 16 inches on an air tested gold ring, sensitivity 13 and no erratic sounds. I will go back to the same beach and hunt in the wet sand and if no problems will immerse the coil in water and see what happens.

Re: Real Bad Interference
Posted by: doc holiday232
Date: March 07, 2018 09:04AM
The coil wire is probably cracked/frayed---a common problem that Garrett Refuses to fix.

Re: Real Bad Interference
Posted by: okara gold
Date: March 07, 2018 04:46PM
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doc holiday232
The coil wire is probably cracked/frayed---a common problem that Garrett Refuses to fix.
You had it called right. Found 2 cracks showing copper? in the wire. Machine worked fine on the beach but when I put it in salt water. Holy Cow! How things got bad!
On its way back to Garrett. Thanks to all who helped me out.




Re: Real Bad Interference
Posted by: doc holiday232
Date: March 08, 2018 08:33AM
This is WHY I refuse to buy an ATX---Garrett KNOWS they have a problem, but instead of fixing it they hope the Dummies will be satisfied with the pap they feed them. IF Mr. Charles were still alive this would have been fixed long ago.

Re: Real Bad Interference
Posted by: beav
Date: March 09, 2018 06:43AM
Agree 100% with doc_holiday232's assessment! I second that.
Beav

Re: Real Bad Interference
Posted by: dmnz
Date: March 10, 2018 03:37PM
Also agreed - once super pro ATX. / mine sit dormant, due to this issue....

Re: Real Bad Interference
Posted by: okara gold
Date: March 10, 2018 08:36PM
I had no idea the ATX was prone to this problem and it is only 11 months old. One more year left on the warranty. I wonder what it would cost to repair if out of warranty?
Too bad for Garrett and the negative publicity it will receive.

Re: Real Bad Interference
Posted by: Dancer
Date: March 11, 2018 03:55PM
Can't understand it. They developed this awesome Pi. Made it heavy as a tank, rugged as a snow flake. And expensive as all heck.
You would think it's time for someone to take a knee and give this thing a make over. This is so unlike Garrett.

Re: Real Bad Interference
Posted by: okara gold
Date: March 11, 2018 06:00PM
I have an Infinium that is over 10 years old. It has the original coil and wire. The wire has been exposed to the elements of salt and fresh water hunting and desert nugget hunting. I've
never had a problem with it wearing and cracking. Now the "bullet proof" ATX with completely enclosed coil wire is a mess. I don't understand. :stars:

Re: Real Bad Interference
Posted by: beav
Date: March 16, 2018 07:13AM
I still maintain its a chemical interaction between the outer "jacket" of the coiled cable and the Polyester resin the fiberglass shaft is made out of. (Not a chafing issue)
The cable just sits enclosed in that shaft, in that environment basically 24/7-365. Take the coil off the machine and sniff down inside the shaft that the cable sits in and is attached to....
it will smell like polyester resin. Mine does.
Beav

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