Find's Treasure Forums

Welcome to Find's Treasure Forums, Guests!

You are viewing this forums as a guest which limits you to read only status.

Only registered members may post stories, questions, classifieds, reply to other posts, contact other members using built in messaging and use many other features found on these forums.

Why not register and join us today? It's free! (We don't share your email addresses with anyone.) We keep email addresses of our users to protect them and others from bad people posting things they shouldn't.

Click here to register!

Need Support Help?

Cannot log in?, click here to have new password emailed to you

Changed email? Forgot to update your account with new email address? Need assistance with something else?, click here to go to Find's Support Form and fill out the form.

Doctor Harold Black opinion, reply and his reply:


Well-known member
" I just celebrated my 75th birthday. My daughter and her family visited from Virginia, and this fall my lovely granddaughter will be a freshman at my alma mater, the University of Georgia.
Times have changed.

I loved my great-grandmother. She was a slave. My father never thought he would live to see the integration of public schools in Georgia, much less his son being the first Black male freshman at its flagship university. When I applied to Georgia I had to have an in-person interview and was asked by a high-ranking administrator, “Why do you want to come here? Because we don’t want you here.” Now the university salivates over Black students with 4.0 GPAs and high test scores.

Well before I retired from the faculty at the University of Tennessee, I bemoaned the lack of intellectual curiosity among most of my students. Frankly speaking, they were lazy. Today’s youth have mountains of information at their fingertips at virtually no cost. While I had to spend hours upon hours in the library accumulating mounds of books in a tiny carrel while researching my dissertation, today those searches can be done in seconds rather than weeks.

So I was alternately amused and dismayed by two recent events. One is the flow of funding from corporations and individuals to the organization Black Lives Matter, which has become the flavor of the moment. I would wager that few of these new admirers jumping on the Black Lives Matter bandwagon have bothered to look at the organization’s website, which touts its support of defunding the police, being anti-capitalist and pro-abortion. Thus the same politicians who have proclaimed that they do not support defunding the police somehow can also support an organization that does.

Second, corporations and individuals who have accumulated their wealth and gained their status due to the freedoms inherent in capitalism are now funding an organization that seeks its destruction. And third, I guess black lives matter except in the case of unborn black babies.

The other observation was that of the leaders of one of the major political parties doing photo ops wearing kente cloth. Aside from a few black people feigning outrage over cultural appropriation, the wearing of kente cloth by anyone black or white demonstrates a lack of intellectual curiosity. I would never wear kente cloth because none of my African DNA comes from the Ashanti region in Ghana, where kente cloth originated. I would disgrace my African ancestors if I wore that cloth.

The Ashanti were slave owners and slave traders who sold my black ancestors into slavery
. The slave-holding pens of the Ashanti are now tourist attractions in Ghana. So in this day in which the symbols of slavery are being desecrated and torn down, many politicians are wearing cloth whose origin is painful to me. They might as well be wearing Confederate flags. I abhor all the symbols of slavery. Those who wear kente cloth honor slavers and are simply too intellectually lazy to have researched its true meaning. So in the spirit of eradicating racist symbols, I suggest a kente cloth burning.

Abolish the Electoral College? Be careful what you wish for.

The same intellectual laziness is true with the perception of the police being generated. Rather than to examine how problems in policing can be addressed, some wish to defund the police. Go ask the residents of the ZIP codes with the highest crime rates if they want the police defunded and see what the answer is.

This is not to say that there isn't a certain unease by Black people of any status when approached by the police. In my 30 years in Knoxville I have been stopped for DWB (driving while Black) three times. Likely it was because my cars had chromed wheels and were fairly expensive. Nevertheless, in each case the police — who were white —were courteous and called me “sir." Not too many years ago they would have called me “boy," so times have changed.

I was probably stopped because experience likely told the police that a Black man driving an expensive car with chromed wheels might be a criminal. That is racial profiling. I don’t know how valid it is or how to change that perception. But I do know that I am not going to change my tastes in cars to accommodate them. "
Dr. Harold A. Black is professor emeritus of finance at the University of Tennessee. He may be reached at

I replied to his op-ed today with this:

" I read your article in the News Sentinel today, entitled, “ Intellectual laziness in changing times.” It was a breath of fresh air, a dose of rationality in chaotic times.

To give a bit of context, I am a southern white male Christian, 61 years of age, and have lived in East Tennessee all of my life. I am an amateur historian as well. As you can imagine, I was oblivious to the issue of Civil Rights throughout my childhood and into my teens and early 20’s. It was only after that period in my life that, through historical research, I began to broaden my views of American history, culture, and specifically, civil rights.

I won’t bore you with any details, but I was around six years old when Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. suggested that, if we were going to judge someone else, do it based on the content of their character, NOT on skin color. After that concept “sunk in,” I accepted it, because it made sense. He was basically saying skin color should be irrevelant; what’s in the heart is more important.

I think most Americans of all races have pretty much embraced this concept. I think the anarchy and hate we see today represents a very small segment of an anti-American ideology. At least, that’s what I HOPE.

As previously stated, I also consider myself a Christian. I have read the KJV of the Holy Bible three times, and have yet to find any significant reference to skin color being a prerequisite of intellect, morality, or faith. As a matter of fact, I believe Dr. King’s illumination of the insignificance of skin color is akin to Jesus Christ proclaiming the possibility of salvation through faith is open to ALL people, again, regardless of race, color, or creed.

At this point, I could say that many black people have abandoned Dr. King’s dream. But at the same time, I think it’s true that many Americans of all races have abandoned Jesus’ dream. So, I have come to the conclusion that faith is the key to both dreams.

Am I on the right track? I have never met you; I hear you on the Hallerin Hill show occasionally, and thus know you to be an intelligent, moral man. But I am asking this of you, as a young man would ask his mentor for wisdom.

I want to believe that faith transcends race, and that through faith, true brotherhood and sisterhood can destroy racial pride and prejudice.

That’s where I am right now. Evil forces and chaos in our world are threatening that dream. I’m afraid that America is on the brink, the abyss.

I guess I’m just looking for encouragement, and I trust your judgment, based on your article and things I have heard you say in the past. "

His reply:

" Mr --------, Thank you for your thoughtful comments. I believe that most blacks are still deeply religious and have not lost faith either in God or in this country. The 24-hour media makes it appear otherwise but dont believe it. I dont know a single soul who endorses violence and looting. The media does not report black success and the growing middle class because that does not entice an audience. However, the black problem, the poor white problem, the poor hispanic problem and the American Indian problem is one of persistent poverty amongst those without nuclear families and education. Until we address those issues there will be the ugly mob waiting to riot. "

This is what confirms that I have this issue right. He mentioned the "nuclear family" as an issue. BLM wants to eliminate the "nuclear family." He, as I, believe that most blacks are still deeply religion and have not lost their faint either in God or this country."

This gives me hope for America's future. Dr. Black's conviction and dedication to America and what it represents confirms my belief that true AMERICANS will decide this next election--NOT the pukes who want to tear our country down.

He, and I, both believe this: you're either WITH America, or AGAINST it.

Who's on board?


Staff member
Excellent Greg. Absolutely excellent! (y) Thanks for communicating with Dr. Black, and sharing those thoughts with us. Count me in...... I will always stand with America and those who defend her. :usaflag:


Staff member
Could not be a better post on the topic Greg!!

Thank you for taking that time and to Dr. Black for his insightful reply

Fair winds


Steve O

Well-known member
Nuclear Family = Parents and their Children (grandparents can be included). Seems to parallel the animal world also.
Not always a guarantee but the chances are a heck of a lot better with both parents doing the raising. Reminds me of that documentary about the rhinoceros being found dead. They found that the teen elephants were beating them up. They realized there was a lack of bull elephants in the area to discipline the young teens. They carted some bulls in and the rino killings stopped.
Good read, thanks Greg.


Well-known member
I’m quite sure Dr. Black is a conservative.
Yes, Kraemer, he is a African/American University of Tennessee Economics Professor, and being an expert on the economy, and a Christian, it's quite logical that he would be a conservative as well.

He's on the Hallerin Hill Show (98.7 FM). periodically, mostly to talk about economics-related stuff.

He's an example of the fallacy of stereotyping someone because of skin color. :drinking: