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Making Red China pay for what it has done...

bulletman

Well-known member
I have a friend who commented about China wanting world dominance, and here's a cut/paste of my questions for him:

" They may "want" to be the world leader, but how would they achieve that? Direct and forceful invasion of Europe and America, or absorb SE Asia first, implementing a long-term operation that takes 20 or more years to be successful?

Don't you think China would be sent back to the stone age, so to speak, if the biggest spenders on earth stopped doing business with China?

What do they [China] have that the world REALLY needs? Cheap Labor? Steel? Technology they essentially steal from us?

I've always advocated that America create a new union to replace the United Nations--a union made up of nations dedicated to freedom, and freeing people from oppression and terrorism.

Just think what would happen if 90% of the world turned its back [economically] on China, Iran, and North Korea, and put Russia on notice. "
What do countries usually do when their populations are starving? Past history tells us, and the answer is war. Whether it's war against another country or civil war, it's bound to happen. The Balkans wars come to mind back in the mid 90's.
 

Greg(E.Tn)

Well-known member
China has the numbers for an army, but I believe the Chinese people will not blindly follow a communist government into a war of conquest. Their government might be enemies of human rights and freedom, but I believe a majority of their people are not.
 

Micheal_R

Moderator
Staff member
I would like to see them remunerate for the damage they [the Chinese] have caused,

But in my heart, I just do not believe it will happen.

Fair winds

Micheal
 

Steve(Can)

Well-known member
H*S*. Nobody forced us to do business with a country that does not share our principles and values, that violently stands against all individual rights and freedoms including the freedom of speech, freedom of religion, the freedom of association and the freedom to pursue opportunity and happiness.

Nobody forced us to do business with a country that uses their own people as slave labour, ignores workplace safety and environmental protections.

We had a good thing going there for awhile, good jobs, half decent wages, laws to protect workers and the environment... people who were proud and worked hard at jobs that provided enough to buy a house, raise a family, send the kids off to college, family vacations, have a few toys, , have a little put away for a rainy day and a nest egg put aside for retirement.

That all came unravelled for one reason. Greed. Sorry, two reasons... greed and the complicity of corrupt and short sighted government representatives who were so intent on looking out for corporate interests, they forgot who they were really supposed to be representing... the people of this country.

Looking to blame someone?... how about putting the blame squarely where it belongs.... on ourselves for letting the greedy and the corrupt shamelessly line their own pockets while betraying their own countries and their own people.
 
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Guvner

Administrator
Staff member
They even steal the organs from their own people they don't like. NBC and Disney as well as Apple and Nike are all traitorous bastards.... Can't fathom anyone coming forward to do the right deed....
 

Steve(Can)

Well-known member
They even steal the organs from their own people they don't like. NBC and Disney as well as Apple and Nike are all traitorous bastards.... Can't fathom anyone coming forward to do the right deed....
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Greedy, corrupt, stupid.
Greedy corporations, corrupt politicians, stupid us.

The list goes on...

Milwaukee Electric Tool Corp.
Brookfield, WI. 53005 USA
Professionally made in China by Milwaukee Electric Tool, PRC

That there was a shock when I opened the box.


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Missouri--Ma Betty

Well-known member
Dave said:
The U.S. debt to China is $1.07 trillion as of December 2019. 1 That's 16% of the $6.7 trillion in Treasury bills, notes, and bonds held by foreign countries. The rest of the $23 trillion national debt is owned by either the American people or by the U.S. government itself.

...not counting the new stimulus package and the costs of the pandemic.

Up here, our government pretty much is writing a blank cheque trying to cover lost wages, keeping businesses a float, maintaining healthcare, preparing for the wave when it comes... that all hasn't even begun to address mop up and recovery.

This is happening in every industrialized country in the world, and every 3rd world country that was flat broke and without credit before the outbreak even started. And as we saw from the last world wide economic near collapse, our economies are all linked and tied to each other...

Dunno Dave, beyond my pay scale, but guessing this is gonna shake us all up pretty much and when we stumble through this one, it's gonna be a brave new world.
Hi Steve (Can), Only for approximately 100 years, more or less! WWII was remembered until several generations have passed as schools do not teach real past history & are brained washing the young until older & have the ability to think for themselves & the older generations pass on! Looks like WWII & 911 are easily forgotten as society gets busy with disasters & problems that are faced now days, by power hungry, cheating lazy LAW breakers who are voted into office by the young & uneducated who aren't taught the past & so ignore it & listen to Hypocrites & their lies, for they love power & money! The love of money is the Root of All Evil! As long as America stands by remembering God Jehovah, it will exist until God says otherwise! We get up & rebuild the pieces just like the 50's & 60's after the war ended & peace was for a little while again--in bits & pieces-- for wars seem to continue after the BIG World Wars of One & Two; I am almost 85 & ILL so will be leaving this old, sinful world, sooner or later, & I PRAY WWIII never happens for my grand children's sake! Amen! Ma Betty
 

Steve(Can)

Well-known member
Hi Steve (Can), Only for approximately 100 years, more or less! WWII was remembered until several generations have passed as schools do not teach real past history & are brained washing the young until older & have the ability to think for themselves & the older generations pass on! Looks like WWII & 911 are easily forgotten as society gets busy with disasters & problems that are faced now days, by power hungry, cheating lazy LAW breakers who are voted into office by the young & uneducated who aren't taught the past & so ignore it & listen to Hypocrites & their lies, for they love power & money! The love of money is the Root of All Evil! As long as America stands by remembering God Jehovah, it will exist until God says otherwise! We get up & rebuild the pieces just like the 50's & 60's after the war ended & peace was for a little while again--in bits & pieces-- for wars seem to continue after the BIG World Wars of One & Two; I am almost 85 & ILL so will be leaving this old, sinful world, sooner or later, & I PRAY WWIII never happens for my grand children's sake! Amen! Ma Betty
What's ailing ya, ma? :(
 

Missouri--Ma Betty

Well-known member
What's ailing ya, ma? :(
The illnesses of old age, hard work, stressful divorce, unsaved children--one a DEM & a nurse following Scientists & not Jesus, My not obeying God's Commandments all the time, being on the stupid side of living life by marrying too young --and having bad DNA & Genes from parents who worked hard & lived the same way! COPD, Parkinson's Disease, Cellulitis, Arthritis & Colon Problems, no MEDS just OVER THE COUNTER because I Pray A LOT & lean on & trust in Jesus! A sinful life & a sinful, evil world will KILL anyone without prayer & God's forgiving LOVE! But we don 't have mortal life forever but we have Everlasting life by believing in Jesus & doing God's Holy will! Hey you asked! :rolleyes: May God Bless you & yours & stay well & Be HAPPY! Amen! Ma Betty
 

Micheal_R

Moderator
Staff member

Steve(Can)

Well-known member
The illnesses of old age, hard work, stressful divorce, unsaved children--one a DEM & a nurse following Scientists & not Jesus, My not obeying God's Commandments all the time, being on the stupid side of living life by marrying too young --and having bad DNA & Genes from parents who worked hard & lived the same way! COPD, Parkinson's Disease, Cellulitis, Arthritis & Colon Problems, no MEDS just OVER THE COUNTER because I Pray A LOT & lean on & trust in Jesus! A sinful life & a sinful, evil world will KILL anyone without prayer & God's forgiving LOVE! But we don 't have mortal life forever but we have Everlasting life by believing in Jesus & doing God's Holy will! Hey you asked! :rolleyes: May God Bless you & yours & stay well & Be HAPPY! Amen! Ma Betty
Ma Betty, we are taught the importance of forgiving others and that is surely a hard thing to do, so hard it is often beyond our own power. What is even harder is forgiving ourselves, even when we have been forgiven. When you look to the old stories of the Bible, they are most often about the personal failings of those great men and women. Moses paid a price for his anger and disbelief, and though he freed the chosen people from bondage and lead them through the wilderness, he was not allowed to enter into the promised land. What anyone reaps, that's what they will sow, just a fact of life. There is always a price for disobedience, but that price does not include having to bear a burden of guilt. That is the burden that is laid at the cross.

You know, Ma, there is a price for obedience as well, for hard work, for loving others, for serving and selfless sacrifice and that can most surely kill us as well. Just as surely as God honours those who honour Him, we honour those who sacrifice for others, particularly those who have made the ultimate sacrifice and given their life for another.

Yes, this is a sinful life and a sinful, evil world but it's the only one we'll get and we are called to be in it but not of it. Unsaved children, ungodly dems and socialists and scientists... we have no higher calling than to love the hell out of them, that's it, just love the hell out of them. (You can cuff my ear for that language, Ma, but it's the only way I know to say it plain.)

Parkinson's is a tough one, Ma. I don't have to tell you, God is a great, big God and He works in mysterious ways. When He reveals His power and His love for us, it is always in ways that go beyond and is not limited to our puny understanding of things. Each day, He shows us His mercy and miracles in astonishing and marvellous ways that none of us could have ever expected. And sometimes, Ma, He'll even use science and nurses. It's true.

Love ya Ma, you done good. Be at peace.
 
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