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(Want to buy) Wtb: Non DST T2 or F75

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I recently bought a T2 LTD off of fleabay and with the Superfly coil that I bought from you I have really enjoyed the simplicity of detecting once again! I love my Manticore but there is something about the old machines that is just fun!
 
and I don't know if this matters.


D.S.T. (DIGITAL SHIELDING TECHNOLOGY) Traditional detector technology requires users to "work into the noise" at high gain settings to achieve maximum possible depth. The T2's latest technological advance, Digital Shielding Technology (DST®), permits the use of maximum sensitivity settings with minimum background noise. This noise reduction reduces user fatigue and enhances the detecting experience. The user may choose to operate with DST or without DST. The default setting, at power-on, employs DST To turn DST OFF, perform the following: 1. Turn detector off. 2. Press-and-hold the grey MENU button and push-forward-and-hold the TOGGLE SWITCH. 3. Turn the detector on, while you are still holding the controls. 4. Continue to hold the controls. 5. See the "90" displayed. 6. Rotate SETTINGS KNOB clockwise. 7. See "91" displayed. 8. Release the MENU button and TOGGLE SWITCH. Upon release of the controls, the detector will operate WITHOUT DST DST status is saved to memory after the user performs this procedure. Each time the detector is powered back on, it will continue in the programmed setting. The same procedure is used to turn DST back on, except that the SETTING KNOB is turned counterclockwise to change "91" to "90". DST can be turned on or off as desired, but each change requires the user to first power the detector off.
 
Yes, the turning DST off/on has long been debated as to the effectiveness of it. You CAN turn it off -- to a degree. It still has been throttled back from the originals. Here's some air test data I did with a pure non DST unit vs a DST unit at 9.0 and 9.1 toggled on/off. Stock coil.

F75 pure non DST model - Motion All Metal - 95 sensitivity - dime = 16.5 inches

F75 SE DST model - 9.1 mode - Motion All Metal - 95 sensitivity - dime = 13 inches

F75 SE DST model - 9.0 mode - Motion All Metal - 95 sensitivity - dime = 14 inches

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As you can see, there's quite a difference between them using the same settings and same coin. The same would be with the T2 machines -- although I have found some of the black T2s with DST to be closer to the pure non DST F75s. I have yet to find a black edition F75 that wasn't weak in all metal. It's really a gamble buying one without testing it first. These have always been all metal machines for me....I never run them in disc mode.
 
Have you found a dime 16,5" ln a untouched ground or just a lousy air test with no ground feed back

Mostly target are between 0" to 6"deep ..... deeper than that it is filled in touched dirt

I dought the " All mighty Manticore " can find that dime a 16.5" well maybe if you gave it it all power than go home early because you drained the battery for 10 cents or silver $2 dime
 
Try the same test on coins that have been in the ground for 6 months or more and see how deep both machines can hit them
 
Daniel Tn said:
Yes, the turning DST off/on has long been debated as to the effectiveness of it. You CAN turn it off -- to a degree. It still has been throttled back from the originals. Here's some air test data I did with a pure non DST unit vs a DST unit at 9.0 and 9.1 toggled on/off. Stock coil.

F75 pure non DST model - Motion All Metal - 95 sensitivity - dime = 16.5 inches

F75 SE DST model - 9.1 mode - Motion All Metal - 95 sensitivity - dime = 13 inches

F75 SE DST model - 9.0 mode - Motion All Metal - 95 sensitivity - dime = 14 inches

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As you can see, there's quite a difference between them using the same settings and same coin. The same would be with the T2 machines -- although I have found some of the black T2s with DST to be closer to the pure non DST F75s. I have yet to find a black edition F75 that wasn't weak in all metal. It's really a gamble buying one without testing it first. These have always been all metal machines for me....I never run them in disc mode.
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Thanks for the test data Daniel, looks like I'm going to be looking for a non-DST model as well. The T2 LTD with DST that I have will just barely hit a 10 inch dime in my soil with the factory or Superfly coil. And for those questioning, yes I have a Manticore with the 9 and 11 inch coils.
 
I used a dime because everybody had a dime to compare to. I hunt Civil War relics and yes I've dug some relics way down past elbow deep with the F75/T2 machines. I don't know why you would be so concerned with something I'm looking to buy anyway...it's none of your business what I buy or why I want to buy it. I know what I want and why I want it. That's all that matters. Not even sure why a Manticore was brought up to begin with. Butt out.
 
You always need the tools that work best for what you're doing and where you're at. Having a straight and Phillips screwdriver kit will let you get by with a lot of work....until you run into a hex or torx head bolt. Then you need a hex and torx key set. Detectors are tools. I'm looking for a specific one. Not a one size fits all.
 
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That probably means it's a 2014ish model then or one that was sent in for the DST fix. I think the camo version came out in around 2013 and was just that...the LTD camo version. It had Boost Process mode added to it too but non DST. It was actually unliked because of how subjective to EMI it was. On the non DST versions of those, you couldn't run the sensitivity near 80 without it going bonkers...it was even too erratic for my liking. Everybody thought there was something wrong with them and Fisher quickly introduced the black version of it with DST to differentiate between it and the camo version. The camo and regular versions could be sent in to be updated...so you have a mix of camo ones with and without DST. My basic rule of thumb today is...if it shows a 2014 or newer manufacturer date...it probably has DST. There's been so many different versions of them that it gets confusing. Somewhere in there they added extra tone options and the FA mode to try and make it unmask better in trash/iron.
 
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