0-31

[BlackX]

Anyone ever hit a good target at 0-31? I think I remember Digitrich saying he did once but I don't remember what. The only thing that seems to hit there for me around here is hot (cold?) rocks. (Though some also seem to bounce up and down the right side of the screen too.) Operating in ferrous 99% of the time, I have a screen with crown caps and 0-31 blocked out that I toggle to a fair amount of the time when hot rocks (or crown caps) are driving me nuts and wondered if there's a significant chance I'm missing much because of it.

(I did get a good 0-30 tonight on a coin spill with a Susan B Anthony, a dime, and a Sacagawea all near each other but usually I don't see anything closer than a quarter bouncing to 0-29. But I was also running at 32 Sens. with the Pro coil tonight and the cursor was all over the place.)

 

[James N.D.]

I have been finding Coins that read as high as 31 on my Explorer XS using the Pro Coil. The ID shows 31 on Digital but the Sound will be too good so I dig them to see what the Target is. Since getting the Pro Coil, I have dug over a dozen 31's that have been Coins so if it sounds too good, best dig it. Good Luck and HH.

 

[BiLL IL]

Rich
99% of the time the 0-31 is a hot rock on my SE.
.25 clad usually hit 0-29.
.25 silver hits 0-29 then usually locks on 0-30
These numbers are consistent on my hunting partners SE also.

HH BiLL IL

 

[dewcon4414]

I get those wrap arounds from hot rocks as well. I can normally just turn down the sensitivity a bit. To me when i get a 31 its a smoother sound than a coin and pretty apparent. My quarters tend to do just the opposent, they move down the scale like 0-27 or 28 when deeper. Which id much rather have than have them roll over in the negitive range where im not looking.

 

[Andrus(ut)]

I also used the pro coil on that ground. One difference that I did and not sure if it makes a difference is I hunted in Manual sens 22, conductive, Iron Mask at -12 or 13, just enough so when you hit an Iron suck target the probe will null on you and you can stop digging. There was quite a bit of popping, I tried to over lap my sweeps and if I heard a longer more solid sing (round) tone I investigated. I then could get a good signal going. I did dig a few Iron suck holes but the Iron tends to have trouble repeating and pin-pointing proper - but sometimes you dig and get hosed.

 

[Chris/MA]

halves, quarters, etc?

I've noticed in a couple places where I've run into a lot of 0-31 signals, they're usually accompanied by a sort of ker-chunk sound.
not exactly a null, per se, I don't figure I can get a discriminator null since I run in all metal (open screen), but it's like a blip of low tone with the high. Which would make sense if it's caused by something strongly negative wrapping around the scale.

 

[James N.D.]

a couple Silver Dimes with a few being Merc's and the rest Rosie's. There was also just a couple of Wheats that read like that also and the reason for it is that there was Iron in each hole with the Coins making them read as high as they did. Most of these Targets were in the 6"-8" Deep Range so that is why one should go by Sound First and ID Second. Good Luck and HH.

 

[Chris/MA]

Interesting. I've been going over some sites I'd worked over pretty well and digging a bunch of iffy targets that sound like iron with a bit of high tone mixed in and getting interesting results (iron with indian head, iron with flat buttons, etc)

What sort of audio did the 0-31's give you?

(I don't normally see a lot of these since I hunt in smartfind, but if I'm getting a lot of hot rock type signals, I'll switch to digital and look for targets that flash 0-31 with weird audio and avoid them.)

 

[James N.D.]

They were as if the Target was on top of the ground but this is mainly due to me using a Gain set to 10. I have dug some 31's that have turned out to be Rusty Bolts and such but it's better to dig them than leave a Keeper behind. Sometimes, the ID will even bounce down to 30 which is another give-away that it could most likely be a Coin. That Pro Coil sure is Hot and it does have a bit more Depth than the Stock Coil when used in Dry Ground also. Good Luck and HH to you.

 

[BlackX]

a couple Silver Dimes with a few being Merc's and the rest Rosie's. There was also just a couple of Wheats that read like that also and the reason for it is that there was Iron in each hole with the Coins making them read as high as they did.

Ah, that makes sense then--at least in a way. I'm finding combined signals can be pretty confusing. The one that gets me a fair amount is 0-31 hot rocks combined with iron. I can't say how many times I've dug any iffy signal to find a shallower hot rock and deeper iron. But I think I'm noticing that the cursor tends to bounce vertically in those situations, whereas, I think, the cursor tends to move in both x and y directions when a coin is mixed with something else. Do you remember how the cursor was bouncing for you in those situations?

You usually hunt in conductive and semi-auto, right?

 

[BlackX]

I also used the pro coil on that ground. One difference that I did and not sure if it makes a difference is I hunted in Manual sens 22, conductive, Iron Mask at -12 or 13, just enough so when you hit an Iron suck target the probe will null on you and you can stop digging. There was quite a bit of popping, I tried to over lap my sweeps and if I heard a longer more solid sing (round) tone I investigated. I then could get a good signal going. I did dig a few Iron suck holes but the Iron tends to have trouble repeating and pin-pointing proper - but sometimes you dig and get hosed.

I was using the Pro coil when I went back there the other night. Except for the edge near the electric lines, I could run pretty close to max sens. Wondering if I'm trying to run too hot too much (to get depth). I'm also thinking I may have to practice cond. mode more and learn it. I'll try to reply today to your email. (Thanks!)

 

[BlackX]

Interesting. I've been going over some sites I'd worked over pretty well and digging a bunch of iffy targets that sound like iron with a bit of high tone mixed in and getting interesting results (iron with indian head, iron with flat buttons, etc)

For me iron falses can sound pretty good if hit just right. (Seems like I can make an iron false sound fantastic if I wiggle it just right! ) But there seems to be some distinction at times that I'm still trying to figure out. Something like--if I'm sure it's a nail and dig it anyway, it's turns out to be a nail but, if I'm not positive it's a nail, some extremely low percentage of the time it turns out to be something mixed with iron.

Iron falses were my nemisis on the Sov and they seem to be on the SE as well, although I think I can tell the difference better on the SE. Probably because in ferrous tones I can actually hear the iron. When the e-Trac first came out, I was seeing reports of lack of iron falsing but I haven't been seeing that since. (I was thinking of switching over but probably won't, at least for a while. (Maybe if a later version of the e-Trac gives us more Explorer-like settings if we want them. (Like an option to opt out of the forced FE12.))

(I don't normally see a lot of these since I hunt in smartfind, but if I'm getting a lot of hot rock type signals, I'll switch to digital and look for targets that flash 0-31 with weird audio and avoid them.)

Pretty much what I do, although I often, until recently, have been running w/ 0-31 blocked out.

I feel like I'm at, say, an advanced-intermediate stage with the SE, and there's something I need to learn to go to the next level of detecting ability but I can't figure out what it is. (Kind of frustrating.)

 

[James N.D.]

I really couldn't say for sure how the Cursor was bouncing since I was in Digital Mode at the time but I could put money on it that it was bouncing from the Left Side to the Upper Right Side of the Smart Find Screen when it did bounce. Sometimes though, the Target would stay a 31 but the Tone and Audio just was too good which lead me to investigate further. I'm sure you could get an idea on what the Hot Rocks do on Smart Find and then just go after the other Targets that do a different Pattern when it is a 31 on your Explorer. Hope this helps Rich! Good Luck and HH.