0 disc + sniper coil got me buffaloed...

[REVIER]

Still practicing with my F70 on 0 disc instead of 1...going pretty well, I am finding a few things in some areas I have hunted over and over using the 10" elliptical concentric.
Could be luck, no place is ever hunted out but these signals I am getting in relatively small sites are the type I definitely would have dug if I got them before.
None were super deep, all were heavily masked.
This morning I did it again, tweaked my settings and changed coils over to the 5" DD sniper.

Settings were...disc 0...sense was 75...thresh at 0...DE speed...monotone.
Surprisingly quiet most of the time even with the sense and thresh up that high.
My whole aim here is to get deep as I can, unmask as well as I can and do it all as quietly as I can.


Only found two good things today but it is a victory because in these two spots I have dug good targets in the past but I have found nothing good for awhile even after many tries.
The truck was 6" deep, the coin was 3" and both were jumpy as most targets deeper are here but a range of numbers kept popping up with no dips to iron.
The coin was not as jumpy and came in at around the correct numbers from high 20's to low 30's...any deeper and the numbers would have soared during to up averaging in my heavily iron infused soil.

One is a part of a vintage toy, I believe it is the front part of a truck, not so sure it is a Tootsietoy because it seems unusually thick and heavy and the windshield area is not cut out.
No marks or name on the inside, I looked for the other half but no not successful at that.
I believe it is a truck because it has some partial words on either side, Tra on one, ...iler on the other.
Don't know the make or model but looks like 30's to early 40's to me but could be earlier.
I have found IH's and 1920's items in this area in the past.
Any help would be appreciated.

The prize of the day was a buff I found in a small backyard that I have permission to hunt and backs up to the park.
I have been hunting here continuously for almost a year, found some older wheats, another buff, but now I am looking for just one more good target.
Pretty wrecked but I could still find a date...1918.

The sniper will stay mounted for the foreseeable future because it seems I and getting better, even more sharper less jumpy signals with this coil over the larger concentric.
Maybe this 0 disc will open up new horizons for me a bit more.
Hope so...stay tuned.

 

[WV62]

Revier,

Just a thought try running in SL mode and slow down your sweep speed a little. I really don’t think disc settings make any big steps in depth + or -.

I have been doing something kind of on the lines you are doing with my F75, boost mode and the 5”DD. I am thinking your SL and my boost are about the same.

Run your disc where you want and when your detector sounds off, start short swinging over the target and watch the ID numbers, and if they stay anywhere close to what you are looking for dig, if you get some going way outside I have been leaving them. So far I have had pretty good luck with this method.

Hope there is something you can use.
Ron in WV

 

[REVIER]

Revier,

Just a thought try running in SL mode and slow down your sweep speed a little. I really don’t think disc settings make any big steps in depth + or -.

I have been doing something kind of on the lines you are doing with my F75, boost mode and the 5”DD. I am thinking your SL and my boost are about the same.

Run your disc where you want and when your detector sounds off, start short swinging over the target and watch the ID numbers, and if they stay anywhere close to what you are looking for dig, if you get some going way outside I have been leaving them. So far I have had pretty good luck with this method.

Hope there is something you can use.
Ron in WV

Thanks...usually that is exactly what I do, look for a repeating range of numbers that don't drop to iron a lot.
I do usually use boost all the time, seems to punch through this dirt better using all metal and all disc settings from 1 on up.
It's the much greater and different noise level just by turning the disc down from 1 to 0 is what I am trying to train myself to get comfortable with, at these settings boost was just not fun to listen to for me...yet.
All metal and disc on 1 or higher with boost are my common settings and it took awhile to deal with everything but eventually I did.
On my first try at 0 disc I had my sense in the 60's and thresh at -6 to -7 and boost before and that seemed to work pretty good and fairly quietly, this is just another combination I decided to try today.

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Using the sniper coil was actually the big change and I was curious to see if It would have a positive effect on signals and it seemed to.
Still experimenting and no test garden so in the field data comes slower but at least it is real world stuff.
Eventually I will add SL, (boost), back in as I get better and more comfortable at this and see how high settings affect depth and signal types.

All day I had to move the coil really slow to notice these good targets.
Iron is solid all day long at all depths at any swing speef but non ferrous I can miss easily at normal movements.
I know it is said fast swing speeds on the Fishers can get better signals at depth but not here in my dirt.

Around here I have found way more and better finds using boost and any coils than DE overall so I am just temporarily putting it aside for now.
I really only need to get to the 6-8" area around here with signal behavior I can recognize to be very successful because most sites, even very hunted sites, seem to have plenty of targets that have been passed over at those depths in the past because to most I believe these were odd and unrecognizable signals.
Not to me anymore, had to learn all new behavior rules to do it but masking in this iron heavy soil is still a big problem.

I have some very successful settings to hunt in my area now but always looking for that next combination that might just give me a little bit more edge.

 

[still looking 52]

Revier, that old Truck looks like an old milk truck to me, say late 30s or early 40s. I seem to remember an old truck like that making home deliveries when I was a kid. I'm not 100 percent sure but that's my thoughts.

 

[WV62]

Just thinking,

I have run all metal on several hunts and I can handle the detector that way and have found several keeper targets. The problem I have hunting that way is good audio depth but it has no discrimination value. Your meter ID numbers will not go as deep as your disc audio and not even close to AM audio so you are losing that in all metal. So keeping in mind the audio disc has the most usable audio ID depth. I would think your audio training would do better staying in disc and only expect to get a hint if anything from your meter as to what is down there.

Ron in WV