'13, '21, & '46 wheats for tonight / pinpoint

[BlackX]

Out of the triangle ("my spot") again.

Still looking for old silver. But I'm rarely without at least a wheat in this spot no matter whether I'm using the Sov or the SE or no matter what coil I try. Have a WOT coming Thu.(?) and I'm curious if that will get deeper if the deeper coins are there to be had. A 1900 IH is the oldest I've found here so far.

Still having issues w/ the pinpoint being useless. Two of those three wheats I wouldn't have dug if I'd used the info from pinpoint to help make my decision whether it was a good signal or not. (And I was extremely careful this time to lift the coil up and away.) Maybe the pinpoint just isn't worth spit in trash. (When the radius of the coil's is larger than the distance from a target to the closet piece of iron.)

But time for bed. (Way past.)

 

[minelab locust]

[quote BlackX]Out of the triangle ("my spot") again.

Still looking for old silver. But I'm rarely without at least a wheat in this spot no matter whether I'm using the Sov or the SE or no matter what coil I try. Have a WOT coming Thu.(?) and I'm curious if that will get deeper if the deeper coins are there to be had. A 1900 IH is the oldest I've found here so far.

Still having issues w/ the pinpoint being useless. Two of those three wheats I wouldn't have dug if I'd used the info from pinpoint to help make my decision whether it was a good signal or not. (And I was extremely careful this time to lift the coil up and away.) Maybe the pinpoint just isn't worth spit in trash. (When the radius of the coil's is larger than the distance from a target to the closet piece of iron.)

But time for bed. (Way past.)[/quote] yea pinpointing in trash is very tough but completely do-able with practice tho..good job on the wheats and yea dont put much stock in the pinpoint info just listen to what your ears say is good and you will do fine

 

[sangamon]

Rich- the VCO pinpointing on the SE has been my biggest gripe. every time i raise the issue on this forum i get ignored, so i just assume it's not an issue for anybody else.

after using the DFX for a few years, i got spoiled. VCO pinpointing is a big selling point for the SE, but it doesn't even compare to my Whites machine.

i haven't had an opportunity to do any head-to-head comparisons with another SE, so my observations are based on my own experience with the DFX.

with the SE, i don't even use pinpoint mode until i dig; then i use it in conjunction with my X-1 probe and it works just fine.

conversely, with the DFX i was often able to hit my target with a screwdriver before my knee touched the ground, because the VCO was dead-on.

but i still like the SE better than the DFX. just gotta make a bigger hole, that's all.

 

[Captain Kirk]

I do not have an SE. I use the Explorer II and the X-70. How would you compare the SE to the II. I always use the PINPOINT mode. My experience is that the II pinpointing is very good if you use it correctly. I can pinpoint within 1/2" of center on a dime.

HH,
Glenn

 

[BlackX]

The pinpointing works fine for me in open ground but in trash it's usually a different story. Definitely going to have to learn to trust my ears more in the regular mode when in trash.

I've been thinking since about trying some tests. For instance, switching to the VCO right on top of the iron next to the target and see what that does. That sort of thing. But switching to it in the air sure wasn't working on some of those last night. The behavior on those last night matched what I mentioned in another thread. In VCO it ended up sounding like really large pieces of metal surrounding an empty spot. And plenty of times before--at least with the Sov--I've been able to get repeatable signals between iron like that when the falsing off of each lines up, only to dig and find absolutely nothing and with this pinpoint behavior it imitates that situation really well.

Have you tried other SEs and, if so, do they all act the same? Or might this be machine-specific behavior that is worse on some than others? What's the pinpoint like on older Explorers?

I really hope there's some way around this.

Maybe I'll call Minelab and see what they say. (But have to find the number. Guessing it might be in my documentation but I can't find it on their website.)

 

[JDinTX]

i, too, went from DFX to SE. now take this for what it is because i am very new to the SE, but i can't pinpoint with it in very trashy areas. my favorite park is full of trash -- i mean more metal than dirt it seems at times. in clean turf, the pinpoint is fine. note, this is with the stock coil. i have an x-5 but have not used it yet.

 

[minelab locust]

[quote sangamon]Rich- the VCO pinpointing on the SE has been my biggest gripe. every time i raise the issue on this forum i get ignored, so i just assume it's not an issue for anybody else.

after using the DFX for a few years, i got spoiled. VCO pinpointing is a big selling point for the SE, but it doesn't even compare to my Whites machine.

i haven't had an opportunity to do any head-to-head comparisons with another SE, so my observations are based on my own experience with the DFX.

with the SE, i don't even use pinpoint mode until i dig; then i use it in conjunction with my X-1 probe and it works just fine.

conversely, with the DFX i was often able to hit my target with a screwdriver before my knee touched the ground, because the VCO was dead-on.

but i still like the SE better than the DFX. just gotta make a bigger hole, that's all.[/quote] ean i must be the exception to the rule because i can put my probe right on top of the target almost 100% of the time unless its way deep..other wise i have absolutely no probs at all

 

[younggun]

Where I usually hunt is full of iron and I have the same pinpointing problem with my SE I have the WOT and the 4.5 x 7 and the smaller coil is easier when its close to iron but I might as well forget it with the WOT but if its within 3 inches I just grab my X-1 its always dead on