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705 depth chart
- Thread starter Crash67
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They don't really indicate any actual measure of depth. The indications will vary depending on the size of the target, the size of the coil, the site conditions, and a host of other variables. They are only a vague and relative mark that requires interpretation.
Mark in S.E. IA
New member
I've done a lot of MDing in the S.E, N.E and N.W Iowa and for the most part silver coins and IH's are in the 6" to 8" range. I have been to a few places where the old coins are 10" to 12" deep but that's very rare.
The 9 years I've used the X505 I ran in pattern 1 or all metal and I used the 10.5 DD 7.5 coil.
Just listen for those faint, not so loud tones. Those could be your deep coins. Also, if you use the pin point mode and you loose the target or signal, go back to ur pattern mode and do a X to pin point it and dig it. For some reason the pin point mode will not pick up the really deep targets.
The 9 years I've used the X505 I ran in pattern 1 or all metal and I used the 10.5 DD 7.5 coil.
Just listen for those faint, not so loud tones. Those could be your deep coins. Also, if you use the pin point mode and you loose the target or signal, go back to ur pattern mode and do a X to pin point it and dig it. For some reason the pin point mode will not pick up the really deep targets.
Mark in S.E. IA
New member
ok, here is something you can do to tell you if ur walking over silver. Keep track of all the wheat's that you find and all of the silver coins you find, keep a running total of each. Every month or so divide how many wheat's by how many silvers you found and if your silver to wheat ratio is 5 to 1 or lower then your doing ok. If your ratio is 7 to 1 or higher,,,, your walking over silver. Keep in mind that you can not do this at each place that you go MDing at, all tho when I'm at a park or old school and after I have found 5 or 6 wheat's I start expecting to find a silver coin but I might not find one tho.
You got to find the wheat's to find the silver......
You got to find the wheat's to find the silver......
mapper65
Member
The 705 manual reads "1 arrow is approximately 0–2” (0–5 cm).Targets at depths greater than 10” (25 cm) will display 5 arrows."
I agree with OLH that the size of your target greatly influences those arrows. The arrows can be helpful but don't take them as gospel. The sound as far as size and intensity in pinpoint mode combined with what the arrows show seems to be a little more truthful of actual depth but even at that can sometimes be speculation.
I agree with OLH that the size of your target greatly influences those arrows. The arrows can be helpful but don't take them as gospel. The sound as far as size and intensity in pinpoint mode combined with what the arrows show seems to be a little more truthful of actual depth but even at that can sometimes be speculation.
Mark in S.E. IA said:
Mark that ratio may work in your area ... but trust me there are many areas that pennies will be all you find. ..with just a occasional Silver.
Not all areas of the country had Dimes to lose .. Not being a jerk here I promise Sir... just trying to get things in perspective for all hunting areas. So as to keep the disappointment factor in check for new people who are detecting. The experience level comes into play too. Yes the potential is there..I just don't think for every 5 Wheats you will find A Silver.
I agree Elton. Around here, if you try to judge your success by some sort of ratio you'd either quit the hobby, or you'd unnecessarily spend a fortune on various equipment only to find that nothing made any difference.Elton said:Mark that ratio may work in your area ... but trust me there are many areas that pennies will be all you find. ..with just a occasional Silver.
Not all areas of the country had Dimes to lose .. Not being a jerk here I promise Sir... just trying to get things in perspective for all hunting areas. So as to keep the disappointment factor in check for new people who are detecting. The experience level comes into play too. Yes the potential is there..I just don't think for every 5 Wheats you will find A Silver.
Rural areas often didn't have the money or the population density to lose much. My state gets hit harder and longer by every economic down turn than anywhere else historically. As a result, detecting is often taken up by people looking for any economic edge that they can fantasize. Closer to the city the odds of good finds goes up, but still not nearly consistently enough to measure success in terms of ratios. Big silver is a real treat, because over the last 45yrs through two major recessions most public properties have been pretty well wiped out of easy to find big stuff. Site research and thinking outside the box will do more for improving the overall quality and frequency of good finds than anything. It has to be there, and you have to get your coil over it to find it....it's just that simple.
mapper65
Member
No offense Mark but my detecting log doesn't line up with that theory. I also realize that there are exceptions to anything.
One place that really comes to mind for me is a place where as a family we found just over 800 coins in a flat area a little smaller than a football field. We are 100% sure that it was never detected before. Tons of the coins were 70's and late 60's clad but we also found a few handfuls of wheats. After about 10 trips to that location the only silver that was found was a 1964 rosey and a half silver Canadian dime.
The opposite of that was a site that we went to two weeks ago where the only coin that was found was a silver.
Like everyone else we used to say, almost matter of fact, "where there's wheats, there's silver". Now I think it's more like, "where there's wheats there may be a possibility of silver". I'm sure just a coincidence but In the last year any place that we've gone to that the first coin that was pulled up was a wheat, we found zero silver".
We all have our theories and OLH mentioned above about rural areas not having the money or density to lose much. My brother in law lives in rural Indiana and knocks on doors exclusively hunting old farm houses. He finds more silver than anyone that I know. Not sure if maybe the farmers were exchanging money with city folks for produce, livestock or other services but at least twice a week he emails me with update on more silver finds. He took me on a few hunts with him one weekend last summer and I found more silver in three days than I do in a month or so where I'm from.
I agree with OLH that research can make all of the difference. Silver is out there everywhere, you just have to put the time in. Unfortunately you can put a lot of hours in and still come up empty handed but you can't let that frustrate you.
I think we can all speculate but it comes down to what keeps you going. It's "the thrill of the hunt" as they say and finding wheats can definitely increase that thrill but they're no guarantee of what's to come.
Have fun!
One place that really comes to mind for me is a place where as a family we found just over 800 coins in a flat area a little smaller than a football field. We are 100% sure that it was never detected before. Tons of the coins were 70's and late 60's clad but we also found a few handfuls of wheats. After about 10 trips to that location the only silver that was found was a 1964 rosey and a half silver Canadian dime.
The opposite of that was a site that we went to two weeks ago where the only coin that was found was a silver.
Like everyone else we used to say, almost matter of fact, "where there's wheats, there's silver". Now I think it's more like, "where there's wheats there may be a possibility of silver". I'm sure just a coincidence but In the last year any place that we've gone to that the first coin that was pulled up was a wheat, we found zero silver".
We all have our theories and OLH mentioned above about rural areas not having the money or density to lose much. My brother in law lives in rural Indiana and knocks on doors exclusively hunting old farm houses. He finds more silver than anyone that I know. Not sure if maybe the farmers were exchanging money with city folks for produce, livestock or other services but at least twice a week he emails me with update on more silver finds. He took me on a few hunts with him one weekend last summer and I found more silver in three days than I do in a month or so where I'm from.
I agree with OLH that research can make all of the difference. Silver is out there everywhere, you just have to put the time in. Unfortunately you can put a lot of hours in and still come up empty handed but you can't let that frustrate you.
I think we can all speculate but it comes down to what keeps you going. It's "the thrill of the hunt" as they say and finding wheats can definitely increase that thrill but they're no guarantee of what's to come.
Have fun!
That's as good a strategy as any w/o doing much research.mapper65 said:
Around here there were roving bands of detectorists that would sweep through entire small towns knocking on every door. And all too often, if nobody answered the door they would hit the yard anyway, which in turn screwed the possibility of any future hunting by honest door knockers.
The same thing was done to a lesser extent out of town. Farmers would be out working in the fields and come home to find their yards excavated by unscrupulous detectorists. Sometimes being honest and spending a few minutes talking can pay off, but you have to be prepared for disappointment, because that sour taste is something that some folks just can't get out of their mouths. It's too bad that we have to pay for the sins of others, but that's just the way that it is.
Mark in S.E. IA
New member
Don't get me wrong guys, I know that your not always going to find a silver coin after you have found 5 wheat's at one place. I'm talking about over a period of time and MDing at a mix of places like older parks, older yards and older schools.
I've been to those places where I've found 10 to 20 wheat's and did everything I could and never found a silver coin and I've been to 100's an 100's of places and I can count on one hand how many time that has happened. I've MDed in the poor parts of my state and in the money parts of this state and it does not seem to matter and I'm talking about they were poor back in the late 1800's through the mid 1900's. One of my favorite places to MD is towns that never had a Pop over 2000 and they are out in the middle of no where. I'm not saying that I do good in all small towns but over all I do.
Like OLH said,,,,, Site research and thinking outside the box will do more for improving the overall quality and frequency of good finds than anything. It has to be there, and you have to get your coil over it to find it....it's just that simple.
and I say, do not swing your coil too fast and learn what your MDer is trying to tell you. Some times you have to read between the lines when your looking at the numbers and hearing the tones, lol
I've been to those places where I've found 10 to 20 wheat's and did everything I could and never found a silver coin and I've been to 100's an 100's of places and I can count on one hand how many time that has happened. I've MDed in the poor parts of my state and in the money parts of this state and it does not seem to matter and I'm talking about they were poor back in the late 1800's through the mid 1900's. One of my favorite places to MD is towns that never had a Pop over 2000 and they are out in the middle of no where. I'm not saying that I do good in all small towns but over all I do.
Like OLH said,,,,, Site research and thinking outside the box will do more for improving the overall quality and frequency of good finds than anything. It has to be there, and you have to get your coil over it to find it....it's just that simple.
and I say, do not swing your coil too fast and learn what your MDer is trying to tell you. Some times you have to read between the lines when your looking at the numbers and hearing the tones, lol