A little confused.

[Crusty]

I recently purchased a Safari because I had to send my Explorer SE in for repaires. I've been wanting to try the Safari anyways so no big deal.
I've been using the Safari and really liking it. I'm hunting mostly in CJ mode (conductive tones) but opened it up pretty much all the way.....just rejecting -6 to -10.
Strange to me is that many of the very high tones ID on the screen in the negative numbers.

Should not say a very rusty nail sometimes give a high tone and ID high as well? Seems many give the high tone but ID negative numbers.
Seems different than my Explorer.

Dave

 

[leslie]

Yes Dave the Safari is very different from your Explorer,I too own both machines, the way I hunt with the Safari using
your settings.High Tones + High Numbers = Good Targets. High Tones + Low Numbers = Iron / Nails.
In conductive tones most iron will give High Tones, also listen for the Grunty Tones = Small Deep Goodies.
Hope this helps and always dig the High Numbers.

 

[Crusty]

Yes Dave the Safari is very different from your Explorer,I too own both machines, the way I hunt with the Safari using
your settings.High Tones + High Numbers = Good Targets. High Tones + Low Numbers = Iron / Nails.
In conductive tones most iron will give High Tones, also listen for the Grunty Tones = Small Deep Goodies.
Hope this helps and always dig the High Numbers.

Thanks Leslie, and yes.....just like the Explorer those deep high tones with a grunt can be a nice keeper.
Strange that in conductive tones the tone and ID don't always match. I am liking this machine very much though.

Dave

 

[leslie]

Hi Dave,you could also view the Vid Safari sounds, just GOOGLE - MLOTV SAFARI SOUNDS, a very good video for the new Safari users, and another must have is Andys book Mastering the Quattro.
Good Luck Mate.

 

[TomH]

Dave,

When I first started with the Safari I found that to be confusing as well. In Conductive Mode the TID values from -1 to -10 have high tones, the lower the number, the higher the tone. In Ferrous mode, the tones from -1 to -10 have lower tones, with the lower numbers having lower tones.

I generally hunt in a modified Relic setting (scrim out -10 to -7 and +40) or All Metal setting, both with Ferrous tones. That way, iron is a low tone with a low number (with the exception being that a very rusty small iron target will read +40) and good targets are higher tones with higher numbers. If there is a discrepancy, i.e. high tone with low number I always use the tone to determine if I dig the hole.

Just a humble opinion...
TomH

 

[Crusty]

Dave,

When I first started with the Safari I found that to be confusing as well. In Conductive Mode the TID values from -1 to -10 have high tones, the lower the number, the higher the tone. In Ferrous mode, the tones from -1 to -10 have lower tones, with the lower numbers having lower tones.

I generally hunt in a modified Relic setting (scrim out -10 to -7 and +40) or All Metal setting, both with Ferrous tones. That way, iron is a low tone with a low number (with the exception being that a very rusty small iron target will read +40) and good targets are higher tones with higher numbers. If there is a discrepancy, i.e. high tone with low number I always use the tone to determine if I dig the hole.

Just a humble opinion...
TomH

Interesting Tom, I guess if I want my Safari to sound and ID similar to my Explorer SE (which I always use conductive tones) I need to use ferrous tones. That's easy enough and will work better for me. I like to mostly just listen for those medium to high tones while not looking at the ID much unless I'm considering digging. The really low tones I tend to ignore unless there is something in the sound that catches my ear.

Dave

 

[SAGITTARIUS]

Dave, I have experience with the Explorer II and now use the Safari. With conductive tones in the coin mode, sensitivity set as high as possible and rejecting from -1 to -10, I listen for the high tones which repeat. I use the Minelab waggle to locate the signal off the toe of the Pro coil. If it then pinpoints in the same place and is deep, most times it will be an old coin. Occasionally you will get a rust nail. This setup is basically the same settings I used with the Explorer II. In about an hour today I found 2 mercury dimes,1940, 1941 and two wheat pennies, 1916 and 1934. This much discrimination does not seem to hurt depth as the coins today were between 6 and 8 inches deep. Hope this helps, Don

 

[TomH]

Dave/Don,

I don't scrim out as much as Don because I relic hunt and some valuable iron relics (Iron buckles, musket tools, wipers, and fragments of shells) fall into the -6 to -1 range and I don't want to miss those. For a coin shooter I can see scrimming out all the minus numbers to avoid all iron.

It is getting "Grapes of Wrath" dry around here and between the heat and the concrete-like soil I am dying to get out. They just cut the hay on 80 acres around a 1780 Inn and Tavern that I have permission to hunt so I drive by every couple of days to just check out the conditions. Part of Ewell's CS 2nd Corps moved to the battle using the roads that intersect at the tavern so there is a possibility of Civil War relics as well.

TomH