ace 250 iron masking??

[traviswells]

Hey everyone i watched a couple of videos on you tube from a guy calling himself Rigas86 about the 250's iron masking capabilities,,check them out if you can.. i guess what im wondering is are we really missing that many coins by not digging the iron signals,,are there really that many coins being masked by iron to be concerned,, kind of made me wonder what i have been missing by not digging these iron signals at my old home sites,, but there are so many,, i hunt in all metal with a sniper,, the video used the standard coil. i know this should help me but, what do you guys think..

thanks travis

 

[Uncle Willy]

Masking by anything hides a ton of goodies.

Bill

 

[Mick in Dubbo]

I don't think that you have much to worry about Travis. While all detectors are effected by iron, I've found that the Ace handles iron far better than most machines. It picks through small iron beautifully. It's only when you get big bits that you start to lose targets, and I'm not aware of any detectors on the market that can deal with that.
Mick Evans.

 

[khouse]

When he first did his test I questioned him. You can read my reply's from mowerdog on YT. Then he performed a new test and what do you know the Ace 250 beeped. Now he's blocked me from any more replies.
Here is the problem with his tests. He's putting a notch machine up against a progressive adjustable discriminating machine. Notch machines either block or accept block sized pieces of conductivity. Meaning if you have 3 sizes of nails when you block out iron you block out all three nails. The other detector with a variable discrimination can block out just the small nail if you want. This is exactly what he did. He adjusted the other machine to almost block out a square nail. This is not the same as blocking the iron notch on the 250. I told him so also. He then made another video that clearly shows the 250 beeping with a coin held close to the nail. He says the 250 failed because he didn't get a belltone. Not true. Your not going to get a belltone when you have iron right next to the coin as in his test. The fact is that the 250 did beep. That's all his other detector did was beep. Since his other detector doesn't have tone ID he has no idea of what conductivity range it's beeping at. Anyway be blocked me from posting under his videos. Don't let him make you doubt your 250.

 

[slingshot]

Yeah-I've done that test and the recovery response test. That's why the Relics mode is my favorite mode whenever there's a low to moderate trash level. Although the Ace doesn't separate SOME targets close together, in the Relics mode you get ONE signal and when you slow the recheck speed down, they begin to separate and you can get two tones, ID's. Also, for the tones. I have compared a Bounty Hunter Tracker and Golden umax (by correspondence). Take the scenario of a small,crushed pencil eraser. The BH gives a mixed tone at first-you can hear some of the high tone. The Golden has a booobeep response. The Ace gives the boooBONG! response which drives everyone crazy. They're all doing the SAME thing, only the Ace isn't that pleasant to listen to. Rechecking the signal at a slower speed, or with the coil raised, or from different angles, gives the detector a chance to "read" a lot of these iffy targets. That's why many people like monotone beep-dig machines. But it's much more fun and interesting to actually LEARN what your Ace is telling you. Just my take.

 

[John-Edmonton]

The term "masking" has been around for a long time. There has been so much written about it, and lately, people are branding one machine to deal with it against one that can't deal with it as effectively. A smaller coil WILL deal with masking more effectivley then a large one. The best, tried and true method to deal with masking is to dig all the junk, which will release good signals on the good targets. That is the ONLY way to get ALL the good targets in the real world where it counts. There are just too many variables involved with targets close together to do any kind of an accurate test on target masking, when you just randomly place two metal objects together above ground and swing your coil over them.

 

[John-Edmonton]

n/t