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An Ace view, to anyone who cares to read....
- Thread starter slingshot
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Uncle Willy
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Yeah I run into that a lot, get a good signal, switch to pinpoint and get silence. I noticed that right of the bat when I field tested it.
Bill
Bill
Uncle Willy
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No it's basically no discrimination, although there is still a tiny bit in play. True all metal is when you have a GB control where you can tune out the ground mineralization or your detector has automatic ground balance like the upper end Garretts that have ground tracking and fast track.
Bill
Bill
I'm kind of backwards to that if clearing out a busy iron infested area. I start with the sniper
first, then go bigger as the site gets cleaned up.
The last sweep would be with the 9x12 to look for any missed deep stuff.
Being as I had cleared out the area with the smaller coils, the 9x12 has a better
chance of finding deep goodies without trash getting in the way.
I run my machine pretty wide open most of the time. I want to see everything that
is in the ground, iron or not. Being as I like old relics, iron is not necessarily
a bad thing.
But... being as most will be rusty, they will bounce hot-cold..
Many will hit hot as a dollar coin firecracker if loaded with rust. But not stable
like a coin in most cases.
first, then go bigger as the site gets cleaned up.
The last sweep would be with the 9x12 to look for any missed deep stuff.
Being as I had cleared out the area with the smaller coils, the 9x12 has a better
chance of finding deep goodies without trash getting in the way.
I run my machine pretty wide open most of the time. I want to see everything that
is in the ground, iron or not. Being as I like old relics, iron is not necessarily
a bad thing.
But... being as most will be rusty, they will bounce hot-cold..Many will hit hot as a dollar coin firecracker if loaded with rust. But not stable
like a coin in most cases.
Mine doesn't really seem that way. They seem about equal on mine as far as I can tell.
But I've never tried a careful test to compare. Maybe the PP mode was detuned slightly?
That's one reason I'll usually try 2-3 times if I detect something and get no pinpoint signal
just to make sure it's not detuned. No real reason for one mode to be stronger than the
other as far as the coil pattern, etc.. It would have to be a detuning in the pinpoint mode.
The PP mode is always at full sensitivity unless it's detuned. So I'd be real surprised to
see this on a machine that is run at say 4-5 bars..
Being as I run mine as hot as I can stand it, and often at full blast in the sticks, you would
think I'd be one of the first to notice the pinpoint mode having less depth than the ID mode.
But.. I've never really noticed it. Like I say, they seem about equal on mine.
But I always make sure it's not detuned a bit if I don't get anything at first.
I'll have to test this on mine one of these days when I get bored..
Have so many small irons in the fire.. :/ I'm on a trail cam kick right now..
I want to plant one up at my property in OK to see what all varmints I can spot.
I bought one last Friday and have been tinkering with it. "WGI IR4C".
It was less than $100 so not expecting the best, but it seems ok for the most part.
It does have IR flash at night which is kind of neat. You can't see the flash unless you
look right at the LED emitters. And you just see a dim "red blob" of light.
I was wary of a white flash as that could alert potential cam thieves to my property and
steal it if they see a flash winking and blinking through the woods.
So many toys, so little time.. And money... :/
But I've never tried a careful test to compare. Maybe the PP mode was detuned slightly?
That's one reason I'll usually try 2-3 times if I detect something and get no pinpoint signal
just to make sure it's not detuned. No real reason for one mode to be stronger than the
other as far as the coil pattern, etc.. It would have to be a detuning in the pinpoint mode.
The PP mode is always at full sensitivity unless it's detuned. So I'd be real surprised to
see this on a machine that is run at say 4-5 bars..
Being as I run mine as hot as I can stand it, and often at full blast in the sticks, you would
think I'd be one of the first to notice the pinpoint mode having less depth than the ID mode.
But.. I've never really noticed it. Like I say, they seem about equal on mine.
But I always make sure it's not detuned a bit if I don't get anything at first.
I'll have to test this on mine one of these days when I get bored..
Have so many small irons in the fire.. :/ I'm on a trail cam kick right now..
I want to plant one up at my property in OK to see what all varmints I can spot.
I bought one last Friday and have been tinkering with it. "WGI IR4C".
It was less than $100 so not expecting the best, but it seems ok for the most part.
It does have IR flash at night which is kind of neat. You can't see the flash unless you
look right at the LED emitters. And you just see a dim "red blob" of light.
I was wary of a white flash as that could alert potential cam thieves to my property and
steal it if they see a flash winking and blinking through the woods.
So many toys, so little time.. And money... :/
If you get some night pictures on your trail cam. The flash does not show anything real far away, might only light up eyes or seems there is nothing there. Put them dark pictures into paint and invert the colors. Gives a different perspective. Can accually see outlines of bodies.Some clearer than others.
Yep, I enhance the night photo's if they are dark. It's pretty bright close up.
I can have it off to the side of the garage aiming at the front door and it
lights everything up pretty bright. The neat part is you can't see the light
unless you look right at the camera, and you just see a dim red blob of LED's.
I was doing some testing last night with it sitting in front of my garage door
and aimed at the street. I could trigger the camera out to nearly 60 feet.
Almost all the way to the curb on the other side of the street. It's about 55
feet to the middle of the street, and it was hitting solid there. I could just
move a little bit, and it would go off. Also had help from one of our trusty
yard cats who was sitting a few feet to side.
The cam can also take video for 30 seconds at a time.
Here is a IR shot of me standing 55 feet away out in the middle of the street.
And then an "enhanced" version where I bump the brightness, and lower
the contrast a bit. You can see things much better in the 2nd one.
The only downside is the camera eats batteries pretty fast so I'm going to
rig up an external SLA battery or something along those lines.
The cam didn't cost that much. It's a WGI IR4C that I picked up at Academy
for $89. It takes up to 2 GB SD cards, and I bought two so I can swap them
out in the field. Also bought a cheap card reader so I don't have to hook the
cam up to the puter.
Note the beady eyeballs on the yard cat.. Also, you can see the LED's
bouncing off the lights and reflector of the car across the street. That's well
over 100 feet away. His driveway is pretty long. And mine is longer than the
picture shows. IE: you can see a truck to the right. But there is another truck
behind that one to the right of the cam. It's about three truck lengths from the
cam to the street. If I was in the driveway, I'd look much brighter.
Original picture:
Enhanced picture:
http://home.comcast.net/~disk100/enhanced.jpg
I can have it off to the side of the garage aiming at the front door and it
lights everything up pretty bright. The neat part is you can't see the light
unless you look right at the camera, and you just see a dim red blob of LED's.
I was doing some testing last night with it sitting in front of my garage door
and aimed at the street. I could trigger the camera out to nearly 60 feet.
Almost all the way to the curb on the other side of the street. It's about 55
feet to the middle of the street, and it was hitting solid there. I could just
move a little bit, and it would go off. Also had help from one of our trusty
yard cats who was sitting a few feet to side.
The cam can also take video for 30 seconds at a time.
Here is a IR shot of me standing 55 feet away out in the middle of the street.
And then an "enhanced" version where I bump the brightness, and lower
the contrast a bit. You can see things much better in the 2nd one.
The only downside is the camera eats batteries pretty fast so I'm going to
rig up an external SLA battery or something along those lines.
The cam didn't cost that much. It's a WGI IR4C that I picked up at Academy
for $89. It takes up to 2 GB SD cards, and I bought two so I can swap them
out in the field. Also bought a cheap card reader so I don't have to hook the
cam up to the puter.
Note the beady eyeballs on the yard cat..
Also, you can see the LED'sbouncing off the lights and reflector of the car across the street. That's well
over 100 feet away. His driveway is pretty long. And mine is longer than the
picture shows. IE: you can see a truck to the right. But there is another truck
behind that one to the right of the cam. It's about three truck lengths from the
cam to the street. If I was in the driveway, I'd look much brighter.
Original picture:
Enhanced picture:
http://home.comcast.net/~disk100/enhanced.jpg