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An observation of the CXIII

Hightone

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I posted this on another website with one response, thought I would share it here:

It seems to me that metal detectors have not improved that much over the last 10-15 years. Lighter maybe and a few bells and whistles, but none the less still accurate and able to detect the same. Here are some observations I have made using the CXIII and comparing it to my Ace 250 (I know the comparison is one sided, but follow me on this).


The CXIII is lighter than the GTI series, Explorer series and higher end Whites. So why is the weight always brought up to discourage using one? The unit is held down at your side rather than out in front of you at an angle. Relaxing my arm to my side seems much less strenuous than holding a unit out in front of me. The CXIII has about ever bell and whistle made on ANY detector, including Treasure Talk. Combine this with the fact the when you turn the unit on, it automatically ground balances, tells you it's in the coin mode and is ready to scan. What detector is easier than that for a new person learning the ropes?

Its detection depth is 2 to 3 times that of my Ace 250. Once I learned the CXIII, I was able to:

have the option to manual ground balance or use auto tracking

control how often I want treasure talk to inform me of settings and finds

Change to VCO for pinpointing

set different tones

control volume and tone frequency

change frequencies for interference

choose to have a threshold or run silent search

regulate surface elimination to tune out junk on top of the ground

fine tuning discriminate using 24 notches instead of 12

depth meter to 12"

3 custom programmable modes


A new Ace is $212. I have seen these units go for $250 in like new condition. I traded a Bandido that I paid $235 for for my like new CXIII and that included a 4" coil with an extra lower rod.

It does take 6 C batteries, but the unit is well balanced at 3.7 pounds. It is very easy to use and program, much easier than the XLT and Explorer, in my opinion.

To me, this detector is up there with the higher end Fishers and Minelabs, though maybe not as configurable, it has some features those units don't have. Yet it sells in the Ace 250 range.

It seems to me that this detector is overlooked and merits closer inspection by newbies and mid detectorists alike. It definitely beats anything Bounty Hunter makes.

I would have paid $400+ for this, knowing what I know now. A new one was in the $899 range (list).

Just my observation, for what it's worth.
 
i have to agree with you.i still have a few of the older machines and their really has not been much improvement over the last few years.some of the newer detectors are a lot smaller and lighter but as far as depth here in the soil where i live not much difference.i still have one of the first ultra gta 1000.that was sent to garret for a repair and the good people there up graded it with a new chip and it runs better than ever.i still have three of the older freedom detectors and honestly think they out perform my ace 250 even though the ace is lighter and has tid.learn what ever machine you have and you will be amazed at the depth and ability of your machine.look at leslie in nova Scotia he still uses one of my favorites a freedom three plus and finds more then most people.well enough rambling happy hunting.
 
One thing I have noticed on the MD forums is that you have those that want to trade an Explorer for a CZ5, then people that want to trade a CZ5 for an Explorer. This happens with most detectors, 250's for a Classic Whites and vice versa. It would appear that many people want that one extra inch of depth or listen to others that say they are finding coins at 15" when their unit of the same only finds coins at 7".

I have figured that someone who knows his 250 inside and out can out detect someone who has a 2500 that doesn't understand what it's telling him/her. There is a reason Garrett says to use the machine in factory default for at least 10 hours and give it 100 hours of use before you can figure you understand the machine. After all, Charles Garrett has been doing this a lot longer than most of us.

All detectors transmit a field that are within 10% total of each other. The circuit that detects and discriminates is the big difference. But the operator has a lot to do with detecting a treasure, by how he sets the detector and how he integrates with it. Too many people expect the detector to do all the work and all they have to do is "dig it up".
 
Yeah Charlie has been at it even longer than me and I've been doing it for 43 years. I've always said that detecting is 90% operator and 10% machine but as you mentioned, a lot of people expect the machine to do it all including think for them. A guy who is 100% familiar with his machine is tough to beat with any machine.

So many folks are hung up on depth ( a buzz word used for advertising and bragging sessions ) and base their detector purchases on perceived depth or the wild tales going around. 99% of all dropped coins and goodies are well within the reach of most machines out there. There are many more things to consider other than claimed depth when selecting a detector.

Bill
 
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