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any Fisher/Tek machine that allows high conductor notching
- Thread starter dfmike
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REVIER
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Not that I know of.
Most go up to 65 on the disc, zincolns are usually in the low 60's, dimes in the low 70's so not quite high enough to do this.
The Tesoro Outlaw can disc out dimes and still get quarters, the Racers have disc abilities that go real high and do it and there may be others.
Not something that most would need to use but I have a borrowed Red Racer I am fooling around with and this ability does come in handy because the ID system is very compressed near the top end around the low 80's numbers, zincolns, some can slaw and other higher area targets are all showing up there...still haven't figured out how to tell them apart as yet.
Dimes are real close to these numbers on this one so the ability to disc out just under dimes and keep the other stuff out is saving my sanity when I feel like cherry picking and to avoid digging tons of unwanted trash.
Using my Fishers I never had a need to have this ability because I can usually make a pretty good educated guess about what is good and what isn't by how the tones and numbers behave.
Most go up to 65 on the disc, zincolns are usually in the low 60's, dimes in the low 70's so not quite high enough to do this.
The Tesoro Outlaw can disc out dimes and still get quarters, the Racers have disc abilities that go real high and do it and there may be others.
Not something that most would need to use but I have a borrowed Red Racer I am fooling around with and this ability does come in handy because the ID system is very compressed near the top end around the low 80's numbers, zincolns, some can slaw and other higher area targets are all showing up there...still haven't figured out how to tell them apart as yet.
Dimes are real close to these numbers on this one so the ability to disc out just under dimes and keep the other stuff out is saving my sanity when I feel like cherry picking and to avoid digging tons of unwanted trash.
Using my Fishers I never had a need to have this ability because I can usually make a pretty good educated guess about what is good and what isn't by how the tones and numbers behave.
Mike Hillis
Well-known member
The F5 allows you to notch out the highest conductive segment.
The Omega 8500 allows notching for all segments. It also allows you to adjust the volume of each segment, including making it silent which gives you no audio but keeps the display active.
The F44 and F22 allows notching of all segments including the ability to assign one of five different tones to each segment.
HH
Mike
The Omega 8500 allows notching for all segments. It also allows you to adjust the volume of each segment, including making it silent which gives you no audio but keeps the display active.
The F44 and F22 allows notching of all segments including the ability to assign one of five different tones to each segment.
HH
Mike
dfmike
Well-known member
Thanks REVIER and Mike.
I knew my F5 could notch the upper segment but there is virtually nothing in that segment that can be found here. Only big soda cans in very shallow dirt ! I didn't know the 8500 could notch out all segments.
The reason I asked is that the X-Terra 705 can do it and it's fun to try out notching out everything except the gold target ranges when searching places where I know I won't find old silver coins. I'd surely like the ability to do that on my F19.
I knew my F5 could notch the upper segment but there is virtually nothing in that segment that can be found here. Only big soda cans in very shallow dirt ! I didn't know the 8500 could notch out all segments.
The reason I asked is that the X-Terra 705 can do it and it's fun to try out notching out everything except the gold target ranges when searching places where I know I won't find old silver coins. I'd surely like the ability to do that on my F19.
Mike Hillis
Well-known member
dfMike,
You can notch out high conductors on the F19. Create your notch window 20 points wide and then move it to the far right as far as it will go. The left digit of the notch is the setting digit so you can move it all the way to the right and notch out the entire high conductor range.
So I will add to my original list of Fisher Tek units that can notch out high conductors the F19 and the G2+.
HH
Mike
You can notch out high conductors on the F19. Create your notch window 20 points wide and then move it to the far right as far as it will go. The left digit of the notch is the setting digit so you can move it all the way to the right and notch out the entire high conductor range.
So I will add to my original list of Fisher Tek units that can notch out high conductors the F19 and the G2+.
HH
Mike
dfmike
Well-known member
Mike, On page 19 of the manual under DISC. it states that by design the detector does not allow highly conductive targets to be discriminated out. I think I saw that in other F series detector manuals as well. I was under the impression that notching would not be possible. Tried it and it works. Notch width 20, push the notch to 79 so that 79-99 are out. Silver and modern clad magically disappear. But then I lose the possibility of having another narrow modern pull tab notch which I sometimes use. Notch width 2 and notch pushed to 59.
Fisher could take it one step further to be able to notch individual consecutive or non consecutive numbers at will or at the least have 3-4 notch windows instead of only one.
Fisher could take it one step further to be able to notch individual consecutive or non consecutive numbers at will or at the least have 3-4 notch windows instead of only one.
dfmike
Well-known member
True. TID accuracy is what I miss the most whenever I use anything else. In trashy areas however I would lose too much time constantly looking at the target ID's instead of where I'm going plus I'd prefer not hearing the sounds of the things I don't want anyway.
D&P-OR said:Yes---but---the TID on the F-19 is SO ACCURATE that a quick glance at the screen tells you "what tha deal is"! (on the upper conductors)-----If you don't want those nasty ole clad dimes & quarters--you can send 'em to me Mike.-------------Del
dfmike said:
Mike Hillis
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Mike, there is no substitute for bench testing.
Why don't you raise the Disc to Max, create a max notch width, or however you migh want to NOTCH IN and adjust that just to your liking, then throw in some V-Break. You could hear your high foil and nickel range targets as a low tone, the tab range and big ring range as a VCO tone, the zincs would be disc'ed out and of course the high conductive rings and coins would still sing out.
You'd get your battery money and be digging gold range targets.
Lots of versatility in the F19 notch set up.
HH
Mike
Why don't you raise the Disc to Max, create a max notch width, or however you migh want to NOTCH IN and adjust that just to your liking, then throw in some V-Break. You could hear your high foil and nickel range targets as a low tone, the tab range and big ring range as a VCO tone, the zincs would be disc'ed out and of course the high conductive rings and coins would still sing out.
You'd get your battery money and be digging gold range targets.
Lots of versatility in the F19 notch set up.
HH
Mike
dfmike
Well-known member
The setup would bring it almost to what I would want as an ideal setup for gold targets only but not quite. For example, if I use the notch to notch out recent pull tabs (as mentioned in a previous post), I can't put the notch anywhere else. I have just one. Yes I might pass a ring but the chances are slim if I keep the notch width at 2 instead of taking out whole pull tab segment like other machines.
I was comparing it to the discrimination setups of the X-Terra. Since detector comparisons are a no-no in here, I avoided mentioning names.
I was comparing it to the discrimination setups of the X-Terra. Since detector comparisons are a no-no in here, I avoided mentioning names.
Mike Hillis
Well-known member
dfmike, A Fisher Labs Design Engineer comes on the board and makes a reply to your post and you snub him with a lame remark?
Your signature line says...Fisher F5...that is a JAnton product.
Your signature line says...Fisher F19LTD....JAnton made the GoldBug into the F19LTD.
Be better.
My apologies, Jorge. dfmike likes your work, he just didn't know who you were.
HH
Mike
Your signature line says...Fisher F5...that is a JAnton product.
Your signature line says...Fisher F19LTD....JAnton made the GoldBug into the F19LTD.
Be better.
My apologies, Jorge. dfmike likes your work, he just didn't know who you were.
HH
Mike
Mark in NC
Member
He has been behind some amazingly innovative stuff over at First Texas the past few years. I'm still a major fan of the F5 and its interface.
Haha no worries, thank you for all the replies.
I was trying to explain the philosophy behind the single notch, that is all.
Some other manufacturers feel the same way and a few others go in other direction.
Some people like easy user interfaces, and some people like finer/deeper customization.
It's all fine and well.
Maybe I should create a signature ...
I was trying to explain the philosophy behind the single notch, that is all.
Some other manufacturers feel the same way and a few others go in other direction.
Some people like easy user interfaces, and some people like finer/deeper customization.
It's all fine and well.
Maybe I should create a signature ...
dfmike
Well-known member
Jorge Anton Saad. I should have known but had no idea. 32 posts in 7 years... How could I know ? My apologies extended to anyone that has been offended by my post. I don't consider it a snub remark but sarcasm and it wasn't intended to be nasty but I can understand that some people might take exception.
I said many times over that I liked the F5 a lot. Same for the F19 which I like even more. Thanks for bringing us those 2 detectors. Excellent work.
By the way, if I had a Tesoro I'd probably love it too.
I said many times over that I liked the F5 a lot. Same for the F19 which I like even more. Thanks for bringing us those 2 detectors. Excellent work.
By the way, if I had a Tesoro I'd probably love it too.
No need to apologize, there was no offense taken. We are aware of the similarities between our philosophy and some of our competitor's. And, every comment is always welcome.
I do not participate a lot in the forums, I do however stalk here and there when time permits. My fault.
Also, this prompted me to create a quick signature. I'll try it in this post for the first time.
So you see, it all came out good.
I am glad you are enjoying the machines. I really like the F19 myself.
I do not participate a lot in the forums, I do however stalk here and there when time permits. My fault.
Also, this prompted me to create a quick signature. I'll try it in this post for the first time.
So you see, it all came out good.
I am glad you are enjoying the machines. I really like the F19 myself.