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I had a good reason for wanting to try the 14", even though most of my detecting jaunts plant in me among some of the trashiest, iron infested sites you could imagine. I have a few close friends I detect with, one of whom has been killing us with his silver coin count. Last year he found over 500 US silver coins, and I am NOT including the low percentage 'war' nickels. Only silver dollars, halves, quarters, dimes and half-dimes.
My friend, Chris, got started in the hobby when he bought himself an XLT for Christmas in '95 or '96 and he did quite well with it. Then he got hooked on the Minelab Explorer XS and then 'advanced' to the Explorer II. <STRONG>NOTE:</STRONG> <FONT COLOR="#ff0000"> I am NOT suggesting that the Explorer is a superior model. It is mostly his technique which works.</FONT>
Chris uses the 15" WOT coil perhaps 90% of the time. Not for any great depth advantage, but for the benefit of <EM><STRONG>coverage</STRONG>.</EM> He selects sites that have had a lot of human activity, especially those that were well used from the 1920's thru 1960's, such as city parks, school grounds, and sportsfields.
Chris makes use of the audio and visual Target ID as well as the depth gauge. Seldom will he go after any target that reads much below that of a zinc cent or Indian Head cent. Also, he tries to concentrate on recovering only those targets that the information <EM>suggests</EM> are over 3" deep. Thus, by cherrypicking the higher-conductive coins and ignoring most shallower targets, be them good or bad, Chris concentrates on those targets that have a greater potential to be silver as well as deeper. Most of his finds are coins in the 3"-6" range, with some coming from the 6" to 8" or possible 9" depth, but for the most part, 8 out of 10 are probably about 4"-6" deep.
Not caring for the heavy weight and awkward feel of the Explorer, I wanted to give myself a little help in trying to match the performance he was getting. Most of that performance wasn't really do to any depth of detection, but due to the <EM>coverage</EM> per sweep he was getting using that 15" WOT.
Preferring the 'feel' of the MXT and the external knob adjustment, I mainly wanted to try and get similar benefits by going with a larger-than-stock widescan coil. I was a bit apprehensive about ANY aftermarket coil, but the Excelerator seemed to be the one that might provide the performance I was looking for.
I put both a 14" and 5" Excelerator to the test with my MXT, and I used other makes and models to do some quick in-the-field, side-by-side comparisons. One model I got was an Explorer and I borrowed a 15" WOT to do the side-by-side with the 14" on the MXT.
Before I proceed, I will have to just say that the one coil I especially wanted to check out was the 5" simply due to the fact that I most often hunt trashier sites, and I prefer round coils to elliptical, and white coils to brown or black colored coils. The 5" coil I used the most first and was totally impressed with the performance. I had my 5.3 Eclipse, which is a 6
My friend, Chris, got started in the hobby when he bought himself an XLT for Christmas in '95 or '96 and he did quite well with it. Then he got hooked on the Minelab Explorer XS and then 'advanced' to the Explorer II. <STRONG>NOTE:</STRONG> <FONT COLOR="#ff0000"> I am NOT suggesting that the Explorer is a superior model. It is mostly his technique which works.</FONT>
Chris uses the 15" WOT coil perhaps 90% of the time. Not for any great depth advantage, but for the benefit of <EM><STRONG>coverage</STRONG>.</EM> He selects sites that have had a lot of human activity, especially those that were well used from the 1920's thru 1960's, such as city parks, school grounds, and sportsfields.
Chris makes use of the audio and visual Target ID as well as the depth gauge. Seldom will he go after any target that reads much below that of a zinc cent or Indian Head cent. Also, he tries to concentrate on recovering only those targets that the information <EM>suggests</EM> are over 3" deep. Thus, by cherrypicking the higher-conductive coins and ignoring most shallower targets, be them good or bad, Chris concentrates on those targets that have a greater potential to be silver as well as deeper. Most of his finds are coins in the 3"-6" range, with some coming from the 6" to 8" or possible 9" depth, but for the most part, 8 out of 10 are probably about 4"-6" deep.
Not caring for the heavy weight and awkward feel of the Explorer, I wanted to give myself a little help in trying to match the performance he was getting. Most of that performance wasn't really do to any depth of detection, but due to the <EM>coverage</EM> per sweep he was getting using that 15" WOT.
Preferring the 'feel' of the MXT and the external knob adjustment, I mainly wanted to try and get similar benefits by going with a larger-than-stock widescan coil. I was a bit apprehensive about ANY aftermarket coil, but the Excelerator seemed to be the one that might provide the performance I was looking for.
I put both a 14" and 5" Excelerator to the test with my MXT, and I used other makes and models to do some quick in-the-field, side-by-side comparisons. One model I got was an Explorer and I borrowed a 15" WOT to do the side-by-side with the 14" on the MXT.
Before I proceed, I will have to just say that the one coil I especially wanted to check out was the 5" simply due to the fact that I most often hunt trashier sites, and I prefer round coils to elliptical, and white coils to brown or black colored coils. The 5" coil I used the most first and was totally impressed with the performance. I had my 5.3 Eclipse, which is a 6
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I found it quite interesting and informitive and like your freind with the Explorer WOT combo it isnt the detector for everyone and neither is the MXT with the 14 inch Excellerator coil.
I will have to try one of the 14 inch coils myself and see how they do up here in ND in the spring, but do know the 4X6 and the 6X10 DD coils work excellent for us up here with some great depth and excellent seperations of targets.
Again Thanks Monte for your report.
Rick
I will have to try one of the 14 inch coils myself and see how they do up here in ND in the spring, but do know the 4X6 and the 6X10 DD coils work excellent for us up here with some great depth and excellent seperations of targets.
Again Thanks Monte for your report.
Rick
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Excellent report Monete. Were you running Coin/Jewelry or Relic mode? The reason I ask is the the Excelerator box says to run in relic mode and I wondered if it really made a difference. Thanks.
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Mine work super for me. The little 5 inch does a super good job on separating targets and I know it will get a wheat penny at 6 inches and sound off goos on it. The 14 does a good job of seperating targets also, Not quite like the 5 but leaps and bounds better than the stock. You get great coverage and so far I know it will get a dime at 9 inches and the id was right on even at that depth. The big coil does well for me in either mode, through testing it was found that they did better or ran smoother in relic mode but they do work in coin mode. I like relic mode in trash trigger in center and anything under the disc setting is a low tone and anything not disced out has a high tone. Great in trashy areas cause you are not actually discing out anything, just changing the tone of unwanted items. Call JW, he'll fix ya up.
Ray
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J.W. was tied up on the phone but had a good conversation with him. Very nice gentleman.
Anyway I have a 5.3 and a mini-DD coming and
as soon as I figure out which I like best, I'll
try to sell one and pickup a 14 incher. Around
here, there are still relics but they are beyond
the "average" coil. Use to I could walk around
and pick stuff off the top of the ground or
fire up the ole White's TR machine and fill ny
pockets full of relics with little effort,,ain't
tht way any more. Sorry for rambling, HH Richard
'n Tn
Anyway I have a 5.3 and a mini-DD coming and
as soon as I figure out which I like best, I'll
try to sell one and pickup a 14 incher. Around
here, there are still relics but they are beyond
the "average" coil. Use to I could walk around
and pick stuff off the top of the ground or
fire up the ole White's TR machine and fill ny
pockets full of relics with little effort,,ain't
tht way any more. Sorry for rambling, HH Richard
'n Tn
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in bolder print, <EM>"DO NOT USE THE COINS PROGRAM OF YOUR DETECTOR. WE RECOMMEND THE USE OF THE RELIC PROGRAM OR ANY CUSTOM PROGRAM WITH LOWER DISCRIMINATION LEVEL."</EM>
Well, I do like some of the options you can have with the Relic mode, especially with the trigger locked forward and the Disc. level at the minimum setting. But to tell you the truth, I enjoyed hunting with it when I was using the Coin/Jewelry mode with the Disc. level set at the 'preset' mark. That, and when I used Relic with a higher discriminate to provide a high tone on zinc cents and above and a lower tone on all the lesser conductive targets.
<EM><STRONG>Monte
Well, I do like some of the options you can have with the Relic mode, especially with the trigger locked forward and the Disc. level at the minimum setting. But to tell you the truth, I enjoyed hunting with it when I was using the Coin/Jewelry mode with the Disc. level set at the 'preset' mark. That, and when I used Relic with a higher discriminate to provide a high tone on zinc cents and above and a lower tone on all the lesser conductive targets.
<EM><STRONG>Monte
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blew it when it came to making accessory coils for the DFX/MXT? Allow me to vent a little here. I liked the MXT and might have kept one around except for the fact that some of the coil choices did not perform well for me.
While the mini shooter is a good coil, I always felt that the elliptical design neccessary for getting into the nooks and cranny's in gold country hurt it somewhat for general hunting applications. I did not see the depth with it some others have reported and regarding the 950 coil, come on White's did you really think that was a good choice as the stock coil for the MXT?
Good to see that the aftermarket has stepped in with a couple of products that were sorely needed on the MXT.
Thanks for the Great reports Ray and Monte. Perhaps its time for me to take another look at the MXT and see if it can have a place once again in my arsenal. <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt="
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Tom
While the mini shooter is a good coil, I always felt that the elliptical design neccessary for getting into the nooks and cranny's in gold country hurt it somewhat for general hunting applications. I did not see the depth with it some others have reported and regarding the 950 coil, come on White's did you really think that was a good choice as the stock coil for the MXT?
Good to see that the aftermarket has stepped in with a couple of products that were sorely needed on the MXT.
Thanks for the Great reports Ray and Monte. Perhaps its time for me to take another look at the MXT and see if it can have a place once again in my arsenal. <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt="
">Tom
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I have heard mixed reports on the whites DD coils . Some lovem some wont have one, I have heard some say that the stock ran smoother than the 6x10. Now I have the 5 and 14 " ex coils and for me they are the best. They run smoother than the stock separate better and the 14 gets more depth, from what I have found so far i would say it will get a solid 4 inches + deeper than the stock. I like mine !!
Ray
I have heard mixed reports on the whites DD coils . Some lovem some wont have one, I have heard some say that the stock ran smoother than the 6x10. Now I have the 5 and 14 " ex coils and for me they are the best. They run smoother than the stock separate better and the 14 gets more depth, from what I have found so far i would say it will get a solid 4 inches + deeper than the stock. I like mine !!
Ray
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Was my favorite all around coil on the MXT. At older sites it handled the iron very well and the target seperation put the stock coil to shame.
Why White's equipped a sensitive machine like the MXT with the 950 coil for general applications is beyond me.
Tom
Why White's equipped a sensitive machine like the MXT with the 950 coil for general applications is beyond me.
Tom