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Anybody want another shot at the "Mystery Coin"?

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Thanks to Steve,I have learned much about posting higher quality pics. this winter.This photo shows a little more detail than the one I posted earlier this winter.
The coin(?) is about half dollar sized and made of bronze.If no one can ID it,it will be banished to the junk jar forever......Or at least till NEXT winter! Lol!
 
...that's an old man with a beard carrying a scythe on his shoulder, with his hand on the world. Kinda like the "old year vs. the new year baby" is represented January.
Let me get my reading glasses and see if we can't make out enough of that type to get a bead on this one. Hmmmm... lmost looks like the date 1895 down at the bottom...
 
>>> 1801 Father Time, by LOOS. 37mm, silver. OBVERSE: Father time flies over a walled village with a sickle in his right hand and an hour glass on top of his head. LEGEND: ALLES VERGEHT (Everything Elapses, i.e. Time Flies) On another example of this medal the legend is DIE ZEIT ENTFLIEHT (Time Flies). REVERSE: A 11 Line Inscription and Date 1801. ABER DIE LIEBE, DIE LIEBE DES EWIGEN, LIEBE ZU GUTEN MENSCHEN VERGEHT NIE // DEM SCHEIDENDEN UND KOMMENDEN JAHRHUNDERT 1801 (Though Love, Though Love Be Forever, Love of Good Men Never Elapses // The Outgoing and the Coming of the Century) 1801<<<
 
Below a stock certificate from the Elgin National Watch Company dated 1903. ...Ornate border around it with a vignette of a Father Time holding a pocket watch. As close as it gets to what is left of the image on your medallion, Dan!
Possibly your medallion was an advertising piece to celebrate the millennium?
The National Watch Company of Chicago, Illinois was incorporated on August 27, 1864. Is that the date at the bottom of the medal?
More info on the company at the link below:
 
The Father Time figure was used by the Elgin National Watch Company from around 1871 when it appeared in an Elgin Almanac through at least the 1930's. Elgin management, and probably many other people, referred to the people who worked at Elgin as "members of Father Time's Family". Elgin placed the Father Time image on many different items as well as using the Father Time name for a line of railroad grade watches.
The traditional Father Time figure carried an hour glass to represent the flow of time. In Elgin's version, Father Time has dropped the hour glass and replaced it with the Elgin watch.
The US Patent and Trademark off says that the first use of Father Time was 12/31/1871.
Below the images compared
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I'm betting it said "Elgin Watch Company" across the top, and "Patented 18xx" across the bottom.
The reverse image helps a bunch!!
 
From the link below:
>>>This very unusual coin is a "Movement Certification" coin, (the equivalent of a warranty card), from the Elgin Watch Company. It's dated 1865 and most likely was provided with a specific watch when originally purchased new. The coin is in XF condition, extremely rare.<<<
 
Ahhh, it says "incorporated", not "patented" across the bottom, if I'm reading it right.
Good searching! And FINDING!!
 
I haven't had a chance to get on-line much the last few days,I am very surprised and happy to see this item IDed with the poor condition it is in.This was one of the first "old" items I ever dug nearly 10 years ago when I first began detecting.Since then I have shown it to lots of people attempting to I.D. it.Great job Steve!Thank You!!
 
an impressive piece of detective work. My hat is off to you. Too bad we didn't get more on the Weren token below.
 
...next week, who knows, it'll show up a half a dozen times. <img src="/metal/html/shrug.gif" border=0 width=37 height=15 alt=":shrug">
 
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