Anyone Using The 5in. On The Omega 8000 ?

[JaWi.]

I have a Omega with stock and 11in.DD coils. I'm after old coins etc. Thinking of adding a 5in. coil for more target seperation in the junk. Has anyone tested this coil out? Like to hear some reports good or bad. Thanks Joe

 

[Shenandoah Digger]

The 5 inch coil works great on the Omega. Really good depth and target separation. The Omega is a really great detector.

 

[tabman]

Yeah, I'd like to know the depth that the Omega gets using the 5" & 11" DD coils as compared to the G2.

 

[Markmac]

JaWi just have to say i liked the 5 inch so well on my Omega that i bought a Gamma and have the 5inch kept on it all the time and keep the 10 inch or 11 inch on the Omega.I hunt a large park across the lake from me and that 5inch is really nice especially in the camp ground area that is loaded with trash.it seperates so well and gives good depth and easy to pinpoint with.I find myself grabbing the gamma now just to use that 5inch coil lol but its not hard to switch to the omega since i have lower rods for all three coils.The Omega is the best coin detector i have used and one i will hang on to....Markmac

 

[BR549]

I;ve never cared to much for using small coils,till I used the 5 on the omega,
Great coil.Works trashy sites very well and the depth is outstanding.I've dug coin size targets so far in the 6 to 7 inch range so far.

 

[Monte]

I have the luxury of using all four search coils on a Delta, Gamma and Omega. Oh, the G2, also. All, of them have very functional stock coils for most of their intended applications, but early on, with my Omega, I use all coils for an assortment of field applications and came to three conclusions.

Conclusion #1: ALL of the Teknetics models come with a standard search coil which is fitting for most of their intended uses, and they all work well.

Conclusion #2: The 'Greek' series models (and the G2 from my experiences) work well with any of the four coils available, and between the mix of coils I feel everyone ought to have at least 2 of them in their personal coil selection. Too many coils can get your mind a bit 'busy' trying to select the right one for your tasks at hand, but having just two, that you know and can rely on, and you're 'good-to-go!'

Conclusion #3: It doesn't matter to me which of the three other coils you determine might help you find good stuff in any environments, but I feel, the 5" DD coil is a 'must have' for any avid detectorist. Period!

If you hear any bad reports then they must come from someone who has never owned one, or from someone who didn't spend enough time with the 5" DD to really learn it and master it. When I first mounted my 5" coil to my Omega I liked what performance I got. As I used it more, reaching maybe 10-12 hours of very active searching in a variety of different sites, I was sold on the abilities of the 5" DD coil. I like the round shape and the coil body, and the depth of detection was a bit surprising, too! I've taken coins in the 6"-7" range, had good audio hits and quite good VDI and TID read0outs on most good targets.

I use mine, exclusively, on my Omega the last two days of August, the first two of October, and the entire month of September. I was mainly working old vacant lots and current old house demolition or moving and my coin count wasn't expected to be very high. I also hunted some large, open grassy parks and schools, and other the a nice 14 K gold ring, over a half-dozen sterling silver jewelry items and many junk costume items, I also nabbed 895 coins in September using only the 5" coil and Omega.

Joe, if you don't have one, get one. If you don't like it, I can guarantee you it can quickly be sold, but better still, I think you'll follow the forums and simply add your vote of support for the 5" DD coil.

Monte

 

[sgoss66]

Monte --

Just a dumb question -- you said "quite good VDI and TID readouts..." what is the distinction between these two acronyms? I usually think of them as "interchangeable;" i.e., the "digital numbers" you get on the machine when you run over a target. Can you enlighten me?

Thanks!

Steve

 

[RounderRick]

The omega and several other detectors has vdi which is the numbers you get and also has a tdi which is the icons like iron, foil, nickel zinc, dimes, quarter.
I'm pretty sure that's what Monte is referring to he can correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[tabman]

I have the luxury of using all four search coils on a Delta, Gamma and Omega. Oh, the G2, also. All, of them have very functional stock coils for most of their intended applications, but early on, with my Omega, I use all coils for an assortment of field applications and came to three conclusions.

The 'Greek' series models (and the G2 from my experiences) work well with any of the four coils available,

Monte, would you please expand on the above quote? I have a Gold Bug Pro and I have been using the 5" DD coil that came with it. I really like that coil. I have a 11" DD coil ordered. It's $75 with the Fisher coupon offer. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to swing it all day long, so just how well do the Gamma 8" and Omega 10" stock coils work on the G2?

Thanks

 

[Dave J.]

The GB/G2 was designed specifically to work with DD searchcoils. There was never any intention that it be used with concentrics.

We explicitly un-recommend that people buy a concentric searchcoil expecting it to work, because maybe it will and maybe it won't and maybe there will be impairment of performance in field use that you aren't aware is happening.

If you happen to have a Frat Bros. series concentric anyhow, it's okay to give it a try, it won't harm the machine.

--Dave J.

 

[ron_c]

The GB/G2 was designed specifically to work with DD searchcoils. There was never any intention that it be used with concentrics.
--Dave J.

That's very interesting and helpful information. Thanks for posting it. I was wondering how the 10" concentric would preform on the GB.

 

[Monte]

We have long associated TID (target ID) as being a reference to a 'group' or 'category' or 'segments' that is a somewhat random classification of targets by named example, such as Iron, Foil, Nickel, Pull Tab, Screw Cap, Zinc Cent, Copper Cent and Dimes, Quarters, Halves and Dollars. Some detector designs have used a free-floating needle meter to register the response intensity somewhere on or close to that particular TID

Some have used a segmented needle design where the signal processed registers with the needle in a determined target ID position. Some models, for example, might have 16 'segments' where the TID needle might register. Following the latter design method, some detectors will register a TID with a filled LED display so that a darkened block will register for the particular target 'group.'

There has also been a growing trend to use a more refined LCD display that shows all the TID responses with either an illuminated marker near the suggested TID 'group,' or use the digital display of a word or object, such as Pull Tab, Nickel, 5

 

[Monte]

I have the luxury of using all four search coils on a Delta, Gamma and Omega. Oh, the G2, also. All, of them have very functional stock coils for most of their intended applications, but early on, with my Omega, I use all coils for an assortment of field applications and came to three conclusions.

The posted question asked about available coils for the four 'Greek-series' models,and I noted the four coils available for them in red. By adding the reminder: Oh, the G2, also in blue, was just that. A reminder that the Teknetics G2 and the Fisher Gold Bug Pro were designed to use the Greek series search coils, even though those models work at 7.8 kHz and the G2 and GB Pro operate at 19 kHz.

The 'Greek' series models (and the G2 from my experiences) work well with any of the four coils available,

Note here that I stated the Greek series models work well with any of the four coils available. The added part about the G2 was just that, and was based on MY personal experiences using a G2 and a Fisher Gold Bug Pro, which, in every case, worked just fine.

Monte, would you please expand on the above quote? I have a Gold Bug Pro and I have been using the 5" DD coil that came with it. I really like that coil. I have a 11" DD coil ordered. It's $75 with the Fisher coupon offer. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to swing it all day long, so just how well do the Gamma 8" and Omega 10" stock coils work on the G2?

As Dave J. mentioned on the Fisher Forum and now here, these two models were intentionally developed to operate with the Double-D coils, not the concentric coils. I only worked with the 8' concentric a little bit, but did use the elliptical 10" concentric coil more, and never had a problems with Ground Balance, target response or visual read-out.

I will add this, however, and that is I am a firm believer in owning 2 coils for any detector. More than that can be over-load, in my opinion, and cause too much guessing or wondering if the mounted coil is working well or not and, based on your results, you might think the poor good-target production was totally related to the coil of choice.

Seldom is that the case, because if the site selection is good, and if the metal detector is capable of doing just that ... finding metal ... then, the next prime factor that is of most importance is the operator's talent at choosing the right settings for the task, and skill in operation so that the site is well covered in an efficient manner.

Why is it that a savvy detectorist can take a low-end model and beat the socks off of a less trained or less skilled hobbyist using one of the better to-end detectors? Knowledge and skill, it's that simple. I have done okay using the 8" round and 10" elliptical concentric coils.

If I were dealing with a broken DD search coil and had nothing to use but a concentric until I replaced the damaged coil, it wouldn't bother me at all. I am, however, a fan ow owning two coils that compliment each other, and in the case of the G2 and GB Pro those would be the two Double-D coils.

The G2 and GB pro do require a bit brisker sweep to get the best attainable depth and responsiveness. That's just the way they are. I use the 5" DD coil the most on my G2. This past weekend and today, however, I went back to the 11" DD simply because I had some sites to cover that were sparse-target in nature and a good size area to work. Besides, the good weather break was short and rains come in later this evening and we'll have rain or snow through at least Friday.

I've already switched back to the 5" DD because any weather break this weekend will find me back at a renovation double lot where I know I just have to find some silver. If they'd just move a little more built-up dirt around it would help. The trash level, however, means I don't want to use the 11" DD, or either of the two concentric coils (if those were all I had), because the excellent-performing 5" DD is still my personal favorite on the G2. The 11" DD is second. I think you'll like them both and, with only two coils, you can easily select the best for the task at hand.

Monte

 

[tabman]

The GB/G2 was designed specifically to work with DD searchcoils. There was never any intention that it be used with concentrics.

We explicitly un-recommend that people buy a concentric searchcoil expecting it to work, because maybe it will and maybe it won't and maybe there will be impairment of performance in field use that you aren't aware is happening.

If you happen to have a Frat Bros. series concentric anyhow, it's okay to give it a try, it won't harm the machine.

--Dave J.

Thanks for the info.

Will the 11" DD coil that I ordered for my Gold Bug Pro work on a Omega, Gamma or Delta?

 

[Ken in Georgia]

The GB/G2 was designed specifically to work with DD search coils. There was never any intention that it be used with concentric.

We explicitly un-recommend that people buy a concentric search coil expecting it to work, because maybe it will and maybe it won't and maybe there will be impairment of performance in field use that you aren't aware is happening.

If you happen to have a Frat Bros. series concentric anyhow, it's okay to give it a try, it won't harm the machine.

--Dave J.

Dave,

Are there any plans for may be an Elliptical coil ?

 

[Big Boys Hobbies]

The GB/G2 was designed specifically to work with DD searchcoils. There was never any intention that it be used with concentrics.

We explicitly un-recommend that people buy a concentric searchcoil expecting it to work, because maybe it will and maybe it won't and maybe there will be impairment of performance in field use that you aren't aware is happening.

If you happen to have a Frat Bros. series concentric anyhow, it's okay to give it a try, it won't harm the machine.

--Dave J.

Thanks for the info.

Will the 11" DD coil that I ordered for my Gold Bug Pro work on a Omega, Gamma or Delta?

Yes it will!

 

[tabman]

Thanks for the info.