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Aquastar vs Goldquest Aquasearch
- Thread starter Mark L
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Tony
Member
Mark,
As far as I'm aware, the discontinuation of the Aquastar was due to Eric having to purchase a large number of suitable Ikelite cases to house the Aquastar electronics. These cases are/were expensive and maybe they are no longer available as a standard item.
As far as depth goes, I believe the higher powered range of PI detectors by Eric (Deepstar/Aquastar) would achieve an extra 3-4" depth on an average sized wedding band when compared to the Aquasearch. Bear in mind that the 10uS setting on the Aquasearch would sniff out the finer profile rings better than a setting of 15uS on the Deepstar (assuming you can run at 10uS with a significant "volume" of salt water).
Something that has just occurred to me is that I also use the Aquasound detector, which is a very high powered TR unit (52V to the coil in high powered mode). These have custom built waterproof cases as the word "Aquasound" is embossed on the underside of the case. These are very strong, thick walled, clear polycarbonate (Lexan) cases.
These machines are built to order so it's obvious cases are sourced from somewhere in small numbers, I think only 20 or so units have been produced.
Maybe Eric could do the same ??
There looks to be plenty of internal space to house electronics and boards suitable for the Aquastar.
Maybe worth pursuing with Eric and "Mr. Gold" who hand builds the Aquasound in Florida.
Let me know if I can help any further.
Good luck.
Regards,
Tony.
As far as I'm aware, the discontinuation of the Aquastar was due to Eric having to purchase a large number of suitable Ikelite cases to house the Aquastar electronics. These cases are/were expensive and maybe they are no longer available as a standard item.
As far as depth goes, I believe the higher powered range of PI detectors by Eric (Deepstar/Aquastar) would achieve an extra 3-4" depth on an average sized wedding band when compared to the Aquasearch. Bear in mind that the 10uS setting on the Aquasearch would sniff out the finer profile rings better than a setting of 15uS on the Deepstar (assuming you can run at 10uS with a significant "volume" of salt water).
Something that has just occurred to me is that I also use the Aquasound detector, which is a very high powered TR unit (52V to the coil in high powered mode). These have custom built waterproof cases as the word "Aquasound" is embossed on the underside of the case. These are very strong, thick walled, clear polycarbonate (Lexan) cases.
These machines are built to order so it's obvious cases are sourced from somewhere in small numbers, I think only 20 or so units have been produced.
Maybe Eric could do the same ??
There looks to be plenty of internal space to house electronics and boards suitable for the Aquastar.
Maybe worth pursuing with Eric and "Mr. Gold" who hand builds the Aquasound in Florida.
Let me know if I can help any further.
Good luck.
Regards,
Tony.
Somewhere around 14" on a nickel with the Aquasearch, and around 17"-18" with a Aquastar.
I don't have a Aquastar to test so I'm using my memory, and a test with a Goldscan 5 unit. The Goldscan 5 detector shares the same base transmitter/receiver circuit as the Aquastar did.
The thought has crossed our mind, Eric, and I have talked about it quite a few times, mentioning trying to re-introducing the Aquastar. It's being looked at.
Mr. Bill
I don't have a Aquastar to test so I'm using my memory, and a test with a Goldscan 5 unit. The Goldscan 5 detector shares the same base transmitter/receiver circuit as the Aquastar did.
The thought has crossed our mind, Eric, and I have talked about it quite a few times, mentioning trying to re-introducing the Aquastar. It's being looked at.
Mr. Bill
Tony
Member
Mark,
Firstly, the Aquasound must be used away from any black sands. The cleaner/whiter the sand then the deeper it goes. Tuning the machine is also critical (this is usually maximised after about 10 minutes of use). The coil loves to be submerged in water where the electronics can be really wound up.
I'd be confident to say that with "good" tuning then 18" is about right but with "great" tuning then 20" plus. The tuning then incorporates getting both "Null" controls really tight and then the 10turn volume/threshold down really low.
Richard (as you know) is the man to really talk to about all this. With his skill/tuning then 20" plus on coin/ring sized targets are achievable.
Tony.
Firstly, the Aquasound must be used away from any black sands. The cleaner/whiter the sand then the deeper it goes. Tuning the machine is also critical (this is usually maximised after about 10 minutes of use). The coil loves to be submerged in water where the electronics can be really wound up.
I'd be confident to say that with "good" tuning then 18" is about right but with "great" tuning then 20" plus. The tuning then incorporates getting both "Null" controls really tight and then the 10turn volume/threshold down really low.
Richard (as you know) is the man to really talk to about all this. With his skill/tuning then 20" plus on coin/ring sized targets are achievable.
Tony.
Old California
New member
Hi Tony,
That's true on the Aquasearch or even with the Goldquest, With the 10uS setting it can get smaller gold rings better than a setting of 15uS as found on most Pi's. But as you said it all depends if the Aquasearch or even the Goldquest unit can operate at 10uS in the wet sand or ocean surf.
One area the Aquasearch or a waterproof Goldquest can operate at 10uS are fresh water lakes, This 10uS setting gives the pi an advantage over other Pi's on smaller conductive signals and gets them deeper as well....Recently, I found this to be true when my waterproof Goldquest SS was getting smaller finds our other 15uS Pi's had missed. We compared my finds against our other 15uS pi's and some of the finds couldn't be detected with the HH pi or Whites pi, Just too small to be detected with these 15uS pi's.
I'll enclose a couple of pics on my waterproof Goldquest SS, It was very tight squeeze to fit in the GQ electronics including an in-line probe and an extra filter mod Scott had performed on the pi when he owned the GQ. Scott modified the GQ for gold nugget detecting and when I picked up the unit from Scott I transformed it into an underwater detector, Over all the GQ is a killer on small conductive finds and gets them deep as well.
Best wishes, Paul
That's true on the Aquasearch or even with the Goldquest, With the 10uS setting it can get smaller gold rings better than a setting of 15uS as found on most Pi's. But as you said it all depends if the Aquasearch or even the Goldquest unit can operate at 10uS in the wet sand or ocean surf.
One area the Aquasearch or a waterproof Goldquest can operate at 10uS are fresh water lakes, This 10uS setting gives the pi an advantage over other Pi's on smaller conductive signals and gets them deeper as well....Recently, I found this to be true when my waterproof Goldquest SS was getting smaller finds our other 15uS Pi's had missed. We compared my finds against our other 15uS pi's and some of the finds couldn't be detected with the HH pi or Whites pi, Just too small to be detected with these 15uS pi's.
I'll enclose a couple of pics on my waterproof Goldquest SS, It was very tight squeeze to fit in the GQ electronics including an in-line probe and an extra filter mod Scott had performed on the pi when he owned the GQ. Scott modified the GQ for gold nugget detecting and when I picked up the unit from Scott I transformed it into an underwater detector, Over all the GQ is a killer on small conductive finds and gets them deep as well.
Best wishes, Paul
Tony
Member
G'day Paul,
Yes, that is one very nice setup you have with the Goldquest SS.
I think we talked about our detectors a few years ago?
My GQSS was simply housed in the Pelican 1060. Set the controls where you want them and then snap the lid shut.
I have since purchased the Aquasound which is deeper seeking in clean white beach sand but if there's any black sand then I'll reach for the GQSS...which is still performing so well.
All the best,
Tony.
Yes, that is one very nice setup you have with the Goldquest SS.
I think we talked about our detectors a few years ago?
My GQSS was simply housed in the Pelican 1060. Set the controls where you want them and then snap the lid shut.
I have since purchased the Aquasound which is deeper seeking in clean white beach sand but if there's any black sand then I'll reach for the GQSS...which is still performing so well.
All the best,
Tony.