AT Pro outdone again by Teroso Silver Umax:cry:

[txtrooper]

Well this is more of a crying post for me than anything else. I am hoping I am still just getting used to my AT Pro but...

Went out with a buddy of mine again today to his an older late 1800's early 1900's home. Again his Teroso out performed my AT Pro. He found 41 pennies including the only wheat (1920), three quarter and four dimes. No silver this time. My AT Pro and I found ten pennies, 1 nickel and 1 dime. The first time out we went to a home built in 1948. I found a few clad coins and three wheats. My buddy and his Teroso found 9 wheats, two silver dimes, a silver charm from a necklace and a silver ring. I am beginning to think about buying a Teroso and trying my luck. He is going around behind me and finding coins I am missing. That's the real kick in the teeth. Also he is covering more ground on the hunts by being able to disciminate out the bottle caps and pull tabs that I am digging up after they bang 80 on my ATP. I keep thinking that as long as I did up all the good readings I will find something to make me feel better about the AT Pro. But until then I guess I will keep looking at his great finds and my so so ones. Sorry for the compaining but had to get it off my chest.

 

[Ohio Coinhunter]

Hey txtrooper,

Don't let that discourage you. It just sounds like your buddy has been at it with his detector longer and has learned what the machine is telling him. Just hang in there with the AT Pro, take your time and learn what the audio is telling you. You probably picked those signals up but didn't dig them due to being unfamiliar with your Pro. Start with the Standard Mode and switch off to the Pro Mode to learn the audio. Hunt an area where you can dig every signal without upsetting a homeowner gracious enough to let you hunt his property. Give it some time and your buddy will want to sell his Silver Umax and buy a AT Pro.

Good Hunting!

Jim

 

[John-Edmonton]

You probably need to put a lot more time on your machine and learn it well. It has many features to actually give you an advantage over the other machine. Buying his model of detector will still put you on a learning curve, and not give you any advantage at all. I usually put on a good 100 hrs on a machine before I can really get it working properly with my style of hunting. Hang in there.....your good finds will improve as time goes on. And please don't let some of the discrimination features prevent you from seeing what's under the coil. You should be digging most signals at this point in time to really figure out your machine.

Good luck!

 

[lasergod]

Dude the pro is a coin machine....The Pro means proportional === as in the sound gets louder as you (the coil) get closer. Not you are a pro because you bought one.

Do this:

Standard coin mode/ iron disc to 39 or 40( you do not want to find iron). sensitivity to 4 or 5 bars only Do a good ground balance/ cancel out the lowest and highest black icon.

remember you can also disc items. you will find that 52 to 55 (med tones are nickles and jewelry) You will probably disc out some of the 70s for the coins. Dig high tones and med tones.

Switch to iron audio when you found a target. listen for the repeatable good target sounded.
Lincolns will bark at you/ nickles are solid med tones, quarters are loud. Please report on this.

Good luck

 

[G. E. Edwards]

I think you need to see which way he's going to walk then jump in front of him, Just kiddin" Next time you guys hunt together walk with him when he finds a target see if your AT Pro will hear it too. do this a few times and that will let you know if it's the machine or he's just detecting the right areas or has more luck then you, Gene

 

[Southwind]

I've owned both and I found the Silver uMax a good detector but not even in the same class as the AT Pro.

The Silver is a been-n-dig the AT Pro is a target ID, you should be going home with a far more goodies and less trash. You need to put more time in on your AT Pro.

 

[Big Boys Hobbies]

John is right. You need more time on your machine. If you buy another machine you will have another learning curve to deal with. The AT Pro is an amazing machine once you learn it.

 

[txtrooper]

Thanks for all the advise and encouragement!! I will follow him on the next hunt and see/listen to the Pro and find out how it sounds off compared to his. I guess just reading/seeing all the nice finds and treasures everyone else has on here is proof enough that this Pro is an awesome detector. Lasergod I will take your advice and let you know how the next hunt goes. I plan on going to the beach tomorrow and trying the Pro out in the water! May be a little to early (if I am not totally familiar with it yet) but the only way to learn it is to use it

Thanks again and HAPPY FATHER'S DAY to all of the dads out there!

 

[BigCatDaddy]

You weren't outdone by another detector, you were outdone by another detectorist. I'm just guessing here, but I'd be willing to bet your padnah has a lot of time on the Silver U. I've used(and still own) a lot of Tesoros, from the Compadre on up to the Tejon and Tiger Shark(sold that one) and they are fine machines but can't hold a candle to the ATP in the right hands. Just keep on swingin' that ATP and digging what she gives ya and it won't be long before you'll be takin' HIM to the cleaners!!

 

[Neil]

Dude the pro is a coin machine....The Pro means proportional === as in the sound gets louder as you (the coil) get closer. Not you are a pro because you bought one.

Do this:

Standard coin mode/ iron disc to 39 or 40( you do not want to find iron). sensitivity to 4 or 5 bars only Do a good ground balance/ cancel out the lowest and highest black icon.

remember you can also disc items. you will find that 52 to 55 (med tones are nickles and jewelry) You will probably disc out some of the 70s for the coins. Dig high tones and med tones.

Switch to iron audio when you found a target. listen for the repeatable good target sounded.
Lincolns will bark at you/ nickles are solid med tones, quarters are loud. Please report on this.

Good luck

The Pro means professional according to the manual, page 12 at the top. The proportional audio is in use in one of the three pro (professional) modes.

 

[BigCatDaddy]

Your'e both half right. It is the PROfessional Mode, but the PROportional audio is in effect in all 3 PRO modes. Shoot, who cares!! Go swing it and reap the benefits!!

 

[Muddyshoes]

Ditto on what the others have said.

Over the years I've been out-hunted by others with less superior detectors. I found too that the more they found on a given day, the more anxious I was that I was being out-hunted. I ended up spending more time watching them dig better stuff, than I was spending listening to what my detector was telling me. Because I was focused on their hunts instead of MY hunt, I was finding less.

When I was little I hunted with an older guy named "Silver Dollar Smitty." It wasn't just a nickname. I was younger, more mobile, had better hearing and better reflexes but he outhunted me constantly, finding good silver on a regular basic. He had an older machine at the time called a C&G Bobcat, and I had a state of the art Garrett Deepseeker. The guy kicked my ass constantly, and I think he asked me to dig his finds purposely just so I could be envious when I pulled a silver half out of the ground and had to hand it over to him. Eventually, as I put more time on my machine, I became a much better detectorist.

Take your time and listen to your machine and learn her language. I know it sounds weird to anthropomorphize a metal detector, but you have to be weird to do this hobby in 100 degree heat digging in the dirt for hours, anyway.

- Muddyshoes

 

[itsaawgood]

Hey txtrooper,

I tend to agree with you! I went to a club meet on the beach on Thursday night and we tested some machines out...buried a quarter 8" down in dry sand (placed flat and covered)

Results:

F2 = Nothing at Max Sensitivity (My machine)
F75 = Hit on it
MXT = Hit on it
V3i = Hit on it (My machine)
AT Pro = Nothing at Max Sensitivity (My machine)
Silver Umax = Hit on it
Excalibur 2 1000 = Hit on it
Fisher CZ21 = Hit on it
Ace 250 = Nothing at Max Sensitivity

Just thought I would pass on that info. I was very suprised and disappointed that my AT Pro did not hit on it...mine is fresh back from the service center so it should be operating properly. The more hours you put on your machine the better you will get with it...but its not really that difficult of a machine in the first place. It kind of cracks me up that people make it sound like there is all this tweaking and settings to adjust...not really...pick your mode, adjust your sensitivity (Per Garrett the Factory default is where it is meant to be run under normal conditions), discriminate out some iron, ground balance and go. Its not a V3i guys....its just a simple machine!! Like any other machine....when you find a target make a mental note of what it sounds like (especially if in PRO mode), note the VDI # and depth, and dig the target....what was it?!? After some practice the PRO mode's are the best to hunt in...that low-high-low and scratchy audio is the cats meow on the AT Pro!

 

[Jerry-Wi]

In the final analysis it is the skill of the guy swinging the detector that counts. Give a newbe the most expensive detector made and a veteran with many years of detecting behind him using a $250...... (pick a brand) and the veteran will pretty much always wind up finding more during a given hunt. There is no substitute for learning the skills involved in metal detecting and not all of it is machine specific.

Jerry

 

[Neil]

Your'e both half right. It is the PROfessional Mode, but the PROportional audio is in effect in all 3 PRO modes. Shoot, who cares!! Go swing it and reap the benefits!!

You are correct BCD, in all three detection modes.Thanks!

 

[KCK]

Most new users get there heart broke very quick, while the veteran has had his or her heart broke time after time....we are so used to it. BUT it's those times that we do catch that big fish(gold) that keeps us coming back for more. It's like planning out a retirement. Don't add it all up right away. Give yourself a few years to accomplish it! heheh LOL

 

[Johnny Cache]

TXTrooper, don't give up on the AT Pro!! It sounds like your friend with the Tesoro has been at it for a while and knows his machine well. Once you really get to know your AT Pro, you will dominate! I have been using my Pro a lot, probably have several hundred hours on it this year so far. It is finding me excellent coins and stuff in places that I detected the crap out of last year with a different detector.
It's fun to hunt with a buddy, but I would say you should log a few hours on your own. This way there will be no pressure, you can take your time, and hone your AT Pro skills.

 

[dahut]

Listen to John and Big Cat Daddy. Read what they say, again.
No better advice can be given than that.

 

[zeekeys]

Txtrooper we all have stories like yours. Mine was, I got beaten by an old guy with a Big Bud and I had the super Compass 100 and I was 25 years younger. Listen to the guys. Give yourself time with the AT. It is a hobby. Enjoy your finds and detector.....Z

 

[Allan]

Standard coin mode/ iron disc to 39 or 40( you do not want to find iron). sensitivity to 4 or 5 bars only Do a good ground balance/ cancel out the lowest and highest black icon.

Why do you recommend canceling the highest black Icon? I can see the lowest, but wouldn't the highest be nothing put good targets,Silver? Just trying to learn the AT myself, Thanks