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AT Pro Tones....Pro mode

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dlh

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When I got my AT Pro a couple months ago I was told to pay more attention to tones then the numbers and dig all repeatable solid signals. After looking at a list of ATP vdi numbers I now have a question. I will use vdi 53 as an example. According to the list....tabs, nickels and some gold rings will ring in under the vdi 53. Since I haven't found any nickels or gold I was wondering.......is there any difference in the tone between these objects or a solid 53 sounds the same for the objects mentioned?

This would be hunting in Pro Mode with some iron discrimination.

Thanks
Denis
 
If your digging numbers around 52/53 and recovering only can slaw, beaver tails and some tabs then you just haven't got your coil over a nickel yet. It may be 1000 times harder to hit on a gold target than a nickel. It's only because there are few gold items to be found. It is very hard to tell the difference between tabs and nickels. Some of the trash targets will hit slightly harder than a nickel or ring. But not all of them. You just have to be in a good spot and dig those 52/53 solid hits. You can be sure that nickels and rings next to trash will give you a jumpy TID. But you are most likely not going to dig those at first. I have found several small gold pieces in the 40 to 43 range too. But this is in the sand where scooping is easy. In the dirt I wouldn't dig those. Just keep at it. It's not easy and gold comes at a great price of possibly thousands of "nickel" digs before you get one piece of gold. Or it could be the very next beep?
 
I think you answered my question in that It is hard to tell the difference between a tab and a nickle. Guess i will continue to dig that number range unless I am in an area that is all tabs.

Denis
 
That's why I love notch discrimination! If I get tired of digging certain trash areas then I'll zap them out.......
 
Denis,
I have found more nickels at a VDI of 49 to 51 on the VDI meter. 50 is the best reading on my detector for nickels. If I get a consistent 50 reading I will bet you it is a nickel. Good luck with your detecting..
 
Nickels are 51 or 52 on my machine. Depends on the soil and dampness. And if the number jumps more than 2 up or down I don't dig. the tone will be solid also. I dug 3 tabs today that tricked me but I also got 1 nickel.
 
I agree with Coinseeker 78, 49-51 is at least 50% nickel time. I have seen 47-49 be nickels also, as well as 50-53. I personally cant tell a dif in the tone of a nic and a tab. HH, Larry
 
Nickels are 51-53 usually on mine...Tabs 54-59 haven't dug any gold yet, so I can't say there
 
I hit two nickels yesterday,a 1905 V nickel and a 1943 P war nickel. The day before 3 Jeffersons early dates. They all hit 51-52 VDI's. I tell my hunting partner that I've found a nickel when I hit 51-52 and he has watched me dig nickels. My 53 VDI is 9 out of 10 times a pulltab. My 49-50 is 9 out of 10 can slaw.
 
I have used the AT Gold for almost a year now and from everything I read, AT Pro has same vdi. I have found a trick for pull tabs. I have dug a lot of gold, pull tabs and nickels. I have found if I see 48-53 vdi, I lift coil higher and higher while swinging. If object is close to surface and signal fade fast it's a pull tab, if signal stay strong with coil swinging high off the ground, it's a nickel or gold. Has anyone else tried this method?
 
i dug 3 nickles today all sounded scratchie but lots of rain latle may have some effect the vid 49 ao 53 mostlly as it seems all my nickles are
 
I found 4 nickels yesterday and and I was in some very wet ground...jumpy signals 39-53 some can slaw in the same range, and tabs 53-56.. I think some of it is the wetness and conductivity of the soil.
 
Silver Lining, i have never tried your idea, but you can count on me trying it. Thanks for the idea, Larry
 
i friend of mine got a 3 gm gold ring at 53-55. just because his partner with the 250 told him ,he dug it out.! how many gold ring i've lost!
 
Love those 52/53 tones. Tells me that the guy before me isn't digging them and some will be nickels and some gold.
Keep digging! HH
 
wow....looks like a pretty good range of numbers for the nickle. I am guessing that is why I was told to go more on a good repeatable signal / tone and learn what is a good target and what is not.

Denis
 
dlh said:
wow....looks like a pretty good range of numbers for the nickle. I am guessing that is why I was told to go more on a good repeatable signal / tone and learn what is a good target and what is not.

Denis
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I've had my At Pro for just a few months now. I reckon my ground conditions may a little bit more severe than most being in Northern California. I hunt schools and parks mainly. I generally use Zero Pro Mode, Iron Disc 35. Ground balance usually at 90 range, I then add 5 to ground balance. This is what works for ME and MY conditions. It may not work for you.This machine is a killler for me on nickels. Nickels come in for me and my conditions between 47 to 53 VDI. Of course depth, halo effect and coin orientation all come into play. Those numbers sometimes are not solid, I might see 47 and then a 50 sneaks in. or maybe it is a solid steady VDI number. Let your digger be your best discriminator. I truly think most detectorists "notch out" these lower numbers as they don't have the patience to dig those nasty other things we all dig in our quest for the gold. Yesterday, on a afternoon hunt I popped 14 nickels amongst the total. Please don't get me wrong, I dug more can slaw than I knew existed. Mix it up the usual number of pull tabs bent, broken or otherwise, it made for an interesting afternoon. Now throw in a medallion of no worth, a tiny silver earring and a girls 14kt bracelet at 4.3 grams, it was a great afternoon. Get to know your machine and YOU decide what signals you want to dig based on what your machine is telling you. You and your machine, your style of swing, the site you search, the ground conditions make for a unique combination. Keep on swinging, keep on digging and good luck and happy hunting to all.
 
i've been hammering mid tones and boy is it a crowded space! nickels ring up 51-52 to me most of the time, occasionally, i get a little higher. silver war nickels tend to bounce on me, ringing up higher b/se of the silver content. i have dug a lot of trash. while tabs sometimes tend to give off that fast attack tone that is fast, clear, and sharp; sometimes they do not. this is why i have been filling my boxes with trash. and some gold.

bottom line is that you have to dig trash to get gold. and i would be very surprised if you move around to different areas that you don't get nickels soon. the great thing about getting nickels is that you know other detectorists have largely ignored the mid tones. that's gold country there.
 
Don't forget that depth will change the VDI slightly. A shallow 3 inch deep silver dime will usually always ring in at 83-84 on my machine. A silver dime at 7 or 8 inches deep will sometimes have a lower VDI, like 80-81. The deep dime still sounds very sweet, that's why tone is king!
 
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