I really like Tesoro detectors they perform well, are small and light weight. But why doesm't Tesoro make something to compete with for example.... the Fisher F2 or the Teknetics Euro Tech line or the Garrett Ace lineup!! Can they not take a Silver Umax or a Cibola and put a meter to it?? How hard is that?? That's all i'd need to keep me from buying a Tecknetics Eurotech or Fisher F2 ......but they don't seem to want to take on their competition. So they can't take a sale from their competitors....................and I can't buy the Tesoro version as there is none...so sad. Anyone else interested in a metered UMax/Cibola or am I alone on this one??? Thanks for your input.
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Big hole in Tesoro model lineup needs to be filled!!
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TAB.HUNTER
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Not interested in a meter. It's all probability. That probability increases with depth. I'd rather depend upon my knowledge of the detector, knowing the area I'm in, and soil conditions. You show me a detector that can absolutely determine the difference between a rotted tin can lid & a 50 cent piece and I'll change my mind. IMHO, the detectors you named are not competition. I dumped my Whites' VX3 for a Lobo. Whites VX3 is a great machine. However, I would have no problem following you with your Whites. I've picked nickels out of pull tab infested areas with my Lobo. It's just having the right coil and experience for the job. Hey, if you are mesmerized by meters as I used to be, go for it. Try the Deleon or Cortes.
REVIER
Well-known member
Tesoro doesn't need to get into making those types of detectors, they are already very good at making the audio only type... the best I think.
I use a Compadre and a Vaquero...both have found me a great amount treasure and I love using them.
I also love using a detector with the screen.
For that I bought an F2.
Got pretty good at using that one also...found a ton of great stuff.
Nobody ever said you can't own more than one.
I don't think Tesoro has the money or resources to make totally new, for them, types of detectors, or the inclination to do so...and they shouldn't.
All is right with the world just the way it is.
I use a Compadre and a Vaquero...both have found me a great amount treasure and I love using them.
I also love using a detector with the screen.
For that I bought an F2.
Got pretty good at using that one also...found a ton of great stuff.
Nobody ever said you can't own more than one.
I don't think Tesoro has the money or resources to make totally new, for them, types of detectors, or the inclination to do so...and they shouldn't.
All is right with the world just the way it is.
Rainyday101
New member
They don't need to make metered machines BUT when it comes to a real silver coin finding machine I don't thing Tesoro is the answer. The uMax series has great recovery speed and great target separation. They do however lack in the depth department. I would give them an average at best. They don't have a nice 5 khz or 3 khz machine for silver.
The HOT series have too high a frequency to be good on silver. This makes them love deep iron but is not so great for silver. They do have the depth though.
So, I know ya guys from Tesoro read this forum- because ya told me so. Skip the new fancy meters. You have all the components and technology necessary to make a silver hunter. You have the recovery speed and target separation of the umax series, you have the depth of HOT series, keep the pleasant tone of the umax series, and make it the optimum frequency for silver like 3 Khz. The lower frequency loves silver and hates metal. You have a dedicated gold detector, a dedicated water detector, relic detectors, how about a silver detector. This way I don't have to buy a single freq xterra to cover the void you have missed! And yeah, it hurts me to think I have to buy a minelab xterra with 3 Khz coil to have a great silver hunter.
The HOT series have too high a frequency to be good on silver. This makes them love deep iron but is not so great for silver. They do have the depth though.
So, I know ya guys from Tesoro read this forum- because ya told me so. Skip the new fancy meters. You have all the components and technology necessary to make a silver hunter. You have the recovery speed and target separation of the umax series, you have the depth of HOT series, keep the pleasant tone of the umax series, and make it the optimum frequency for silver like 3 Khz. The lower frequency loves silver and hates metal. You have a dedicated gold detector, a dedicated water detector, relic detectors, how about a silver detector. This way I don't have to buy a single freq xterra to cover the void you have missed! And yeah, it hurts me to think I have to buy a minelab xterra with 3 Khz coil to have a great silver hunter.
Count Pierre
Member
Tesoro are in their market niche, & have no need to change! 
TAB.HUNTER
New member
DITTO!Rainyday101 said:
How about two frequencies in one machine???wheatymike
Member
I have a Deleon and it works well. Although new it is more expensive than the market you are talking about.
I'll take a Tesoro any day over a machine with those dang screens that are supposed to tell you what's in the ground.I trust my ears and brain more than i trust what a screen says,No offense to those who like all that fancy stuff though.Experience and knowing what your machine is saying is all you need, to be good at what you do.Tesoro is doing just fine with what they are putting out for the public.
I think the answer is fairly simple based on my own use of the detectors you describe. The TID screens on a lot of those detectors is dead wrong between 40% and 60% of the time. I can't tell you the number of junk targets I dug that registered as a solid coin on those TIDs.
Once I used a Tesoro, and I get used to the sounds, I can almost always tell a coin before I dig it just based on the sound.
Based on my expierence, the TID screens become more accurate the better and more advanced the technology behind it comes. Of course, with that you're probably spending at least $500 for your detector, and even at their most expensive, most TID's start losing a lot of accuracy past 6"-7".
Once I used a Tesoro, and I get used to the sounds, I can almost always tell a coin before I dig it just based on the sound.
Based on my expierence, the TID screens become more accurate the better and more advanced the technology behind it comes. Of course, with that you're probably spending at least $500 for your detector, and even at their most expensive, most TID's start losing a lot of accuracy past 6"-7".
Mike Hillis
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You should try the ETPro.
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wheatymike
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I personally think that TID and numerical readouts have there place. They can be used effectively for some applications. For instance when I am hunting in a trash infested park and I don't want to dig ever stinking pull tab in the park, well I use my numbers as a notch. I wont dig numbers that are in the pull tab range. That is no different than turning up the dial on a beep and dig machine to see if it's a tab, or flipping the notch toggle on when using a Golden uMax. Having real time numbers to look at is a more convenient notch IMO. Will this miss some good targets? "yes absolutely" Will I go back to work after my lunch hunt without 23 pull tabs? "absolutely" If I am hunting a good old home site or some other spot that has less or no modern trash like tabs, I just dig all good, small hits above a certain disc. setting no matter what the numbers say.
coinjumper
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Tones on a vaq is all I need
coinjumper said:
Or my Tejon. I LOVE multi tones. I will never get rid of my Tejon as it works very well in certain environments. But I do not want to decifer the nuances of every find in a littered field. Multi tones makes going through a trashier field much more enjoyable. And yes I agree 100% with the idea of a 3 KhZ dedicated silver machine.
Rainyday101
New member
Okay Tesoro, you heard it here- Bring on the 3 kHz silver hunter! We can live without the display, we don't care if it is single tone, just make us a sweet souding silver detector with depth that has the pleasant sounds and disc. of the umax's.
TAB.HUNTER
New member
I've often wondered how well those screens hold up in the desert heat or freezing temperatures.
Another one here that can do just fine without the screens,etc. My ears seem to work just fine sorting out the info my tesoro tells me. I LOVE my old GSII and it has found tons of coins over the years and I feel no need to change horses in the middle of the race now. With that said, I "MIGHT" be interested in another machine from Tesoro designed specifically for coin shooting silver.....????