Hunted yesterday with my 6x8 found one indian &the wheats. Read Bryces post on the 4.5x7. I've only used mine a couple of times, but will use it more from now on.First signal was the 1864 indian, then I got the Round Oak piece off of an old wood stove, Then came the Geo. Ladd silver spoon Got the other indian on way back to the truck. It was way to hot to hunt very long. Thats not a lot for 2 morning hunts but thats my oldest indian.