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Deleon Trial Run

Gunman64

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I went to the park today, I took my son, daughter and my Deleon. I was out for about 15 minutes and I hit 3 dimes. I hit another target with a 95 reading when my son started acting up. He's got Autism, so you do what you can do. I was impressed from what little I saw, I'm hoping to go back out again tomorrow. I have a feeling this machine is going to be sweet!!!
 
Nice one! You have a great machine. It was great to take the kids along too, but most kids get bored with detecting quite quickly...."seeding" the area is an option, but not always.
 
You're going to like the Deleon. It gets really good depth. Keep the discrimination set low so it will hit hard on nickels and gold rings.

tabman
 
tabman said:
You're going to like the Deleon. It gets really good depth. Keep the discrimination set low so it will hit hard on nickels and gold rings.

tabman

Tabman, where do you run your discrimination at?
 
Now I'm running it between 'min' and 'iron'. I was running it higher at the 'f' in the 'foil' before I was told by another forum member that I should lower it. He was right!

On the nickels and gold rings the lower setting makes a big difference on the Deleon.

It doesn't seem to effect the Tejon and Cibola as much when using a slightly higher setting when targeting nickels and gold rings.

tabman
 
sounds like it likes high conductors
 
The Deleon will hit hard on anything, so long as you dont disc it out.....it reminds me a lot of the Silver Sabre II, except the D has VID.
 
Gunman64 said:
I went to the park today, I took my son, daughter and my Deleon.
Best news is you went to the park with your kids, and taking the DeLeón, I trust, was just an extra thing to do. I know I tried to get any of my six children to learn or understand why I loved the hobby, but none of the have taken to it like the way I have. My oldest and youngest sons have a metal detector, but I don't live close enough to help inspire them to get out more. My send son had one, but I think he sold it after some initial excitement wore off as he was preoccupied with other things, or so he says.

Still, take every opportunity to introduce them to the hobby as they grow up. You just might get lucky and have at least on child who takes to the sport a lot and will want to spend more time afield with you.


Gunman64 said:
I was out for about 15 minutes and I hit 3 dimes. I hit another target with a 95 reading when my son started acting up. He's got Autism, so you do what you can do. I was impressed from what little I saw, I'm hoping to go back out again tomorrow. I have a feeling this machine is going to be sweet!!!
Only fifteen minutes sure isn't enough time to get to know the DeLeón, or any detector, but enjoy the learning process.

If yours works for you where you live, then my guess you have mild soil with lower mineralization. I never really use the Target ID references on my display models, but rely a great deal on the VDI [size=small](Visual Discrimination Indication)[/size] numeric read-out. I think that was one issue I had with the DeLeón and Cortés models I owned when each was released. Too many coins and other higher-conductors are cramped into the '95' VDI. I live and hunt is some very high-mineralized ground and their preset GB for the Discriminate mode was too negative, and that resulted in a lot of falsing.

While you're learning your detector, and after you have a good grasp on it, I encourage you to not rely on a TID reading or named target suggestions on the Discrimination control setting. Instead, use a specific problem target and then just barely reject it. Don't adjust too boldly as you can reject a lot of desired targets and suffer from more good-target masking. I don't like a lot of iron trash, but I do not use a full iron Disc. setting. Instead, I only deal with the most annoying ferrous targets I'll encounter, and those are iron nails. So I hunt with my Discrimination control at one of two settings. Just enough to barely reject common iron nails, or at the minimum setting [size=small](if it adjusts below iron nail rejection)[/size] when the trash amount is very sparse.

A lot of smaller, thinner gold jewelry reads very low, right at or sometimes below an Iron Range TID/VDI. That was one of the other issues I had with the DeLeón since it lumps Iron and Foil together on the limited 5-segment TID/VDI display. That could be thin gold chains, tiny gold rings or pendants or earrings. For a $599 suggested retail detector I felt that was a very restrictive design. Anyway, just use the Discrimination and a frequently encountered piece of trash to set the rejection point.

Then, get back out to that spot again, relocate that '95' VDI target, recover it, check the spot after recovery, and report back to us just what you found.

Happy Hunting and enjoy your kids!

Monte
 
Monte said:
Gunman64 said:
I went to the park today, I took my son, daughter and my Deleon.
Best news is you went to the park with your kids, and taking the DeLeón, I trust, was just an extra thing to do. I know I tried to get any of my six children to learn or understand why I loved the hobby, but none of the have taken to it like the way I have. My oldest and youngest sons have a metal detector, but I don't live close enough to help inspire them to get out more. My send son had one, but I think he sold it after some initial excitement wore off as he was preoccupied with other things, or so he says.

Still, take every opportunity to introduce them to the hobby as they grow up. You just might get lucky and have at least on child who takes to the sport a lot and will want to spend more time afield with you.

Gunman64 said:
I was out for about 15 minutes and I hit 3 dimes. I hit another target with a 95 reading when my son started acting up. He's got Autism, so you do what you can do. I was impressed from what little I saw, I'm hoping to go back out again tomorrow. I have a feeling this machine is going to be sweet!!!
Only fifteen minutes sure isn't enough time to get to know the DeLeón, or any detector, but enjoy the learning process.

If yours works for you where you live, then my guess you have mild soil with lower mineralization. I never really use the Target ID references on my display models, but rely a great deal on the VDI [size=small](Visual Discrimination Indication)[/size] numeric read-out. I think that was one issue I had with the DeLeón and Cortés models I owned when each was released. Too many coins and other higher-conductors are cramped into the '95' VDI. I live and hunt is some very high-mineralized ground and their preset GB for the Discriminate mode was too negative, and that resulted in a lot of falsing.

While you're learning your detector, and after you have a good grasp on it, I encourage you to not rely on a TID reading or named target suggestions on the Discrimination control setting. Instead, use a specific problem target and then just barely reject it. Don't adjust too boldly as you can reject a lot of desired targets and suffer from more good-target masking. I don't like a lot of iron trash, but I do not use a full iron Disc. setting. Instead, I only deal with the most annoying ferrous targets I'll encounter, and those are iron nails. So I hunt with my Discrimination control at one of two settings. Just enough to barely reject common iron nails, or at the minimum setting [size=small](if it adjusts below iron nail rejection)[/size] when the trash amount is very sparse.

A lot of smaller, thinner gold jewelry reads very low, right at or sometimes below an Iron Range TID/VDI. That was one of the other issues I had with the DeLeón since it lumps Iron and Foil together on the limited 5-segment TID/VDI display. That could be thin gold chains, tiny gold rings or pendants or earrings. For a $599 suggested retail detector I felt that was a very restrictive design. Anyway, just use the Discrimination and a frequently encountered piece of trash to set the rejection point.

Then, get back out to that spot again, relocate that '95' VDI target, recover it, check the spot after recovery, and report back to us just what you found.

Happy Hunting and enjoy your kids!
Monte

I try and take them both to the park as much as I can, there are times that I leave my son at home with my wife and me, my daughter take our detectors off to the park. I bought her her own Compadre and she like going hunting. Sometimes if I'm finding more that her she gets upset, other than that we have a good time. I live in southern Michigan from what I heard and encountered we don't have mineralized ground, this is my first VDI machine and I have a lot to learn about it. It will take me time to understand it but I will have a ton of fun doing it, when ever I can find a few hours to hunt . Thanks Monte, Tabman and Furous T for the info. I will keep you all posted!
 
I took the Deleon the the park today for about 1 1/2 hours, turned it on and went to town on coins. I was hitting them left and right, nothing old though. One thing I didn't like was when I was in Discriminate and was moving the detector from side to side I would get a hit when I was going left, when I would sweep back right nothing. It happened a couple of times, I would just put it All Metal mode to find the target. I saw what some of you were talking about the Lift Coil, it's a little bit of a pain. But nothing I can't work though, I'm still learning the machine.

Ken
 
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