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This being my second year in the hobby and all im still kind of a newbie so I will have a few questions now and then and I would be really grateful for any help or advice. Anyhow, all the time I've been using the mxt I haven't really been checking my depths. I live in Upstate New York and we finally had a decent day so I decided to get a little pregame warm up so I will be ready when spring hits. So I buried a few coins in the ground to around eight to ten inches.(quarter, penny, and nickel) The quarter I was getting some readings on but it was sparatic, and if I didn't know it was a quarter it would of read like a nail. The penny was the same way, jumped around and read it off to the side. The nickel I picked up because it was only down five inches. Anyways to make a long story short why is my machine only reading decent to about a depth of six inches and then it just kind of jumps around and you would have to just dig to find out what you had? Is it have anything to do with the soil (too wet, to much mineralization)I thought the machine was able to read to at least a foot? I would appreciate any advice,because now im wondering just how much of the good stuff I didn't dig up from last year. Thanks.
 
Hi Woody,
I've noticed with mine that it usually gets better depth and signal strength after a good soaking rain. Probably the wet ground isn't the problem.
I've also read that coins that are in the ground for a while will read stronger than a freshly buried one due to how the soil is compacted and such. I may be wrong about this, so don't take it as gospel.
Best thing I can tell you is to start out using the presets. Try different modes, coin/jewelry & relic. As you see what each can do, try adjusting the settings for gain and disc to see what fits your area best.
Bottom line, the more you practice with it and learn what it's telling you, the better off you'll be. I love mine & wouldn't give it up for the world. It really is a great machine, but like any other, you gotta spend time with it.
Good luck & HH!
Tim
 
There are many variables that come into play in metal detecting. I guess that is one of the things that makes it such an interesting hobby. Let me address your questions with some of my opinions. First of all, the MXT is an excellent machine. I have been hunting for about 30 years and have had more than my share of machines. From the old BFO days, the TRs and the VLFs. From Garrett to Tesoro to Fisher to Minelab and Whites. I currently swing the MXT and a Minelab. As to how deep your machine will go depends on the coil you are using, the soil conditions, the size of the target and how long it has been buried. You didn't mention the coil, so I suspect that you are using the stock 9.5 inch concentric. The stock coil is a good one, but if your soil is highly mineralized, you would fare better with a DD coil. DD coils are more stable in highly mineralized soil and the detection depth will not be adversely affected by the mineralization. To deteremine how mineralized your soil is, you simply put the MXT in Prospecting mode and it will tell you on VDI. Anything under 70 should be OK with your concentric coil. If it is higher than 70, you may want to consider one of the DD coils. Whites makes them and so do a couple aftermarket manufacturers. Remember that, as a general rule, the larger the coil, the deeper they detect. Not always true, but a good general rule. As to detecting freshly buried targets buried at 10 inches, that probably won't happen with any coil. There is just too many air gaps and too much disturbance to allow the signal to penetrate to that depth with a fresh coin. Once a coin is buried in the ground, it starts to create a chemical reaction with the minerals in the earth and creates what some refer to as a halo effect. Basically this means that the dirt around the coin inherits some of the properties of the target and increases the area that the target is detected. The longer the coin is buried and undisturbed, the more compacted the earth becomes and the larger the halo appears to the detector. When this happens, the deeper it can be located. For your pregame warmup, you may want to bury the coins in the 6 inch range. But leave those deep ones for a few years down the road. As to moisture, that is a detectorists best friend. Just as water is a good conductor of electricity, wet ground seems to intensify the signals of buried targets. As to your comment that the machine would locate to a foot. That won't happen under normal circumstances. But don't blame the machine. Manufacturers all make great claims as to the depth of their machines, but most of that is marketing. Sure, under ideal conditions, a detector may hit on targets 12 inches deep, but for the average coin shooter, you won't be digging many holes that deep. If you are hunting in sandy soil or soil that has a lot of mulch build up (more dirt each year), then the targets will be DEEP. However, if you are like 90% of the detectorists that hunt in yards, parks, ball fields etc. most of the coins will be less than 8 inches deep anyway. So, don't throw out the MXT. It is a good one. Take some readings on your soil to make sure the coil is right for the job. Get a bigger coil if you want to get more depth, but remember that it will also be picking up more "conflicting" signals as it covers more ground with each pass. Set your threshold so you can barely hear the sputter and slow down your sweep speed to listen for the changes in tone. Run with as much gain as you can without too much chatter. I run mine with DD coils, +3 gain most of the time in soil readings in the 60's. I can hit targets at 10 inches, but the coins are seldom if ever that deep. HH
 
Hello Digger, you are right on with that post. Just the way it is!!
Richard C. <img src="/metal/html/biggrin.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":D">
 
The other guys are right on with there response. I thing most people make when buring coins or other objects is: not checking the ground througly in the all metal mode(squeeze the trigger while in the pinpoint mode) and MAKE SURE that there isn't trash in the ground!! Then bury your test targets.
 
Excellent point you make Digger. I found out also that open air testing means very little when it comes to performance in dirt. I own an XLT and a shadow X5. I thought there was something wrong with my XLT as in my locale I rarely dig anything over 6" deep. My X5 will detect a nickle at 16" in open air but in the ground my XLT will go deeper with a 6" coil! The interesting thing is that in the all metal mode, SOME machines will go nearly as deep in ground as they go in air. I have also heard that lower freq machines may go deeper in hot soil. Also I have read postings that Fisher CS series do better in bad soil than most. Try this: If you want raw depth try the all metal mode. If you can't ID it, Dig it!
 
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