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Detector pro pinpointer mess with the explorers or etracs?

Big Boys Hobbies

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I need a new hand held pointer for my detector. Anyone any experience with the super deep detector pro? I read somewhere that it causes interference with the explorers but cant find the post. I like the reports of how deep it goes but sue don't like the size of the beast. Are the fishers/techneticks any good?

My old whites bullseye crapped out on me.
 
Go with either a Sunray X-1 inline or a Tinytech hand held if you don't want to spend that much money.
 
I bought one used and it drove my EX2 bonkers. It didn't seem to matter what I did (noise cancel, angle away, etc.). I sold it back to the guy I bought it from :)
 
what happend to the whites my one craped out a week ago so i sprayed some wd40 in the switch & away she went.
 
I had a detector pro pinpointer when I acquired my Explorer SE. Big problem: the explorer uses every frequency under the sun, so the pinpointer conflicted with the explorer, which overrode the pinpointer. Solution: Sunray X-1. The Sunray gives the SAME signals the Explorer gives, but only goes 3 or 4 inches from the tip of the probe. No interference. This is the only way to go, IMHO. Any other pinpointer will have difficulty overcoming the interference caused by the powerful Explorer. HH
 
Several people have reported issues with the Detector Pro interfering with the Explorer or E-Trac (or the Safari / Quattro). I initially had the same complaint but a quick call to Gary at DetectorPro solved the problem rather than dumping it.

There is a FREQUENCY control under the door on the Pistol Probe. When you turn your Minelab on and noise cancel it, press the ON button on the probe and adjust the frequency until you eliminate any interference with the detector. Obviously you want to have the probe away from the coil as you would laying it down and digging the hole but that just makes sense. Granted there may be a slight adjustment each time you start out but once the adjustment is made, there is no interference.

Should that point be better explained in the manual? Maybe but it does explain the purpose of the frequency control fairly well. It does say "Frequency Control: Adjust this control if you are getting electrical interference (from your detector)".

It also states "The frequency control is used only if other electronics are interfering with the probe (constant noise). Some multifrequency detectors can cause interference. If you have electrical interference, turn the frequency knob in either direction, then readjust threshold control. You may have to experiment with the frequency adjustments until you are not getting inference."

Once I made that slight adjustment in how I used it, all interference was eliminated. By the way, it is not just a Minelab thing either . . . I had to do the same thing with my Whites DFX.

The big advantage of the Pistol Probe (or the new Garrett ProPointer which my wife and son use and I have in my field bag as well) is that they are far more rugged than past probes and are far easier to operate when checking each hole; i.e., simply push the button, find the target, and move one - no adjustment prior to each use or falsing in the hole.

For me - and many I have talked to - there are two other big factors that made the buying decision an easy one to make.

1) No additional weight added to the detector: Granted the E-Trac has better balance and ergonomics than the Explorer, Safari or Quattro but adding 11 ounces back onto any of them is not an option to many people. Even the DFX which has better balance and wright gets heavy with a probe affixed to the shaft. I broke my collar bone a few years ago in an accident and the weight albeit slight made extended use painful. The X-1 is an excellent product but for those that feel the basic detector is heavy enough already, check out the difference adding 11 ounces makes before going that route.

2) Versatility: The newer probes allow you to get performance that past probes never provided and do not tie you to using it on only one detector. If you have several different detectors, you will have a probe that works with any of them without buying one for each.

Before this post starts an "X-1 Firestorm" let me reiterate that the X-1 is an excellent product, does provide target Id capabilities similar to the detector it is used on (since it is an actual coil switchable on its control box) and does not need batteries since it uses the battery power from the detector but the additional weight is a factor that for many makes a big difference in opting for that route. Also, the fact it is limited to the specific detector it is mounted on is another consideration.

I had never been a probe guy for the reasons discussed above but after using both the DetectorPro Pistol Probe and the Garrett ProPointer, I quickly found myself using a probe all the time. The DetectorPro is larger but goes deeper and when relic hunting, the extra depth has helped me in many cases. The Garrett is more compact and is a dream to operate.

So as far as interference goes, not a problem with the Minelab detectors + the DetectorPro probe. Gary did extensive testing with Minelabs before releasing the probe and a slight adjustment eliminates the interference issue.

Hope this helps

Andy Sabisch
 
Andy, my pinpointer has a knob on the face to adjust frequency, plus another knob for threshold. I haven't been able to find a frequency to use with the Explorer SE, but in view of your experience I'll try it again. I agree to your conclusions about the advantages and disadvantages of the X-1. Overall, if someone is primarily using the Minelab for the majority of their MDing, I believe the X-1 is the way to go with the Minelab, despite its small weight disadvantage. I use the Detector Pro pinpointer with all my other machines on land: MXT, DFX, CZ20 (water machine). (Yes, the CZ20 does well as a coin shooter, though it is too heavy to use as a primary land machine.) Thank you for your input, Andy.
 
I had a X-1 on my explorers and although it was tits to use I hated the extra weight. The way they have designed the new Etrac it seems allot lighter and an awesome advantage over the old explorers in that sense. So I don't want to go the X-1 route again.
 
The Garrett ProPointer will get the same depth as the X-1. It does not identify targets as the X-1 does but it has no extra weight added to the detector, can be used with other detectors and is built like a tank. 3" on a coin is typical for the Garrett . . . a bit more on larger items.

The one comment people voice about the X-1 is that you still get the target ID capability with the X-1 probe and can tell if you have a coin and iron in the hole.

I would say that hitting any target - iron or not - is not a good idea. A few weeks ago I hit a signal that was boucing and opened the hole. The DetectorPro told me there were two targets but not what either one was. Well, one was a Civil War period iron rowl from a stirrup and the other was a Minnie Ball . . . both were good targets so not sure knowing one was iron would have helped me in this case.

A probe - whatever model you opt for - will help you from damaging targets and speed your recovery

Andy
 
Make sure you are HOLDING the button down on the DetectorPro when you want it to operate. If it is still causing you fits, that's the purpose of the 2 year warranty on the unit. Call them and see if you need to send it in.

Andy
 
It about 2 inches on a nickle and the old whites is about an inch. The Garrett is VERY sturdy. I like it allot. Ill prolly go that direction.

I got you book from you last week. Very nice reading book. You did a great job! You should charge more cause I would still buy it!!!! lol

My old broken one is a whites bulls eye not a detector pro.
 
I have both the X-1 and the Garrett. I like the Garrett just as much as I do the X-1. If I didn't already have the X-1 I would have gotten only the Garrett. It's just as deep as the X-1 and it VIBRATES when you are near a target. You don't have to try to listen through your headphone ear cups to hear it going off as it vibrates. The one thing I didn't like about it was the annoying loud beep each time you turned it on. If you used it anywhere near any people you'd drive them to distraction. I remedied that with a piece of electrical tape wrapped tightly around the tiny speaker holes. The beep is now muted and I also made the thing a bit more resistant to incoming water. The frequency of the vibration cycles tells you how near or far you are from the target. Neat 'bullet proof' little pinpointer. Oh! I have never yet had the Garrett mess with the ET, the SE. or the Ace 250. Jim
 
I used the X1 and the Pistol probe with my Explorer ll and ended up selling the X1.It was excess weight.Haven't had any problems with interference when using the Pistol Probe.I'm finding a lot more multiple targets in holes,three silver dimes in one hole.I don't like the very fine pinpointing with this probe so I use a Bullseye ll at the same time.Yes I holster two pin pointers and believe it or not its very convenient and effective.The dealer's will like hunter's using two pin pointers,but in the future I think this will be a trend.I was one of those guys that use to wander why my friends would use one pin pointer,heck that what's the pinpoint button does on the metal detector. Ron
 
I guess I should take a new look at pinpointers ... hopefully they have improved over the years (I'd especially value robustness).

I've used the X-1 and a Vibraprobe for years and love that combination. The PI nature of the Vibraprobe along with the discrimination and range of the X-1 have proven very useful in recovering targets under nearly every possible condition. Never had a problem with interference.
 
I have been using the PP for a couple months now and the only times it caused interference is because I was being too lazy to adjust the frequency as Andy stated.

It's a great probe and it does go deep as rumored
 
Somwhere we changed from what sounded like a discussion on the uniprobe to a discussion of the pistol probe.

Is there a door in the uniprobe that allows a frequency adjust beyond the big frequency knob on top? I can tell you it doesn't matter your level of "laziness", the uniprobe interferes greatly with the EX2.
 
Just figured that StoopsTroop was asking about the new probe from DetectorPro which has the frequency adjust.

If you are having problems with the UniProbe interfering with the Explorer, I would suggest calling Gary Storm at DetectorPro since he used that combination pretty regularly in NY parks . . . and if there was a significant interference problem, he would have noted and corrected it.

He should be back in the shop Tuesday if you want to give him a call and ask about your observation . . . . . I have used the Uni and have the Pistol Probe (which uses the Uni technology) and no longer have any issues using them with the FBS-detectors

Andy
 
I agree. I just don't see anything performing better than the x1 sunay inline probe.
 
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