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Epoxy or truck bed liner?

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JASONSPAZ1

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I want to use my Sovereign GT with it's Stock tornado coil on the beach without the coil cover. I know if it is not protected the sand will fade away the bottom of the coil. So, I want to either use epoxy or spray on bed liner on my search coil. What brand is the best, where can i get it, and what is the method to apply,
I mostly will use this coil for saltwater use and shallow fresh water wading. I am not sure if either of those detecting methods will dictate if either epoxy or bed liner is the way to go.
Thanks so much in advance for your answers.
Take Care
HH
Jason
 
This is what I used and put 3 coats on the bottom. My hunting is on the beach and I have to touch it up everyother time. I think I may go to the boat epoxy next. It just doesn't seem that the bedliner holds up good enough for me.

Ron



Dupli-Color TR250 Truck Bed Coatings Black 16 Ounce Can
 
I use Loctite marine epoxy. Mix it and use a brush to put it on. It holds up realy well !
 
I have a question for you is that Lucite the same as..... Boat epoxy resin and the hardener that you mix when working with fiberglass ???
 
No not the same. You find it at your local home goods store. Home Dep-t. It's a two part mix in a tube. Blue package made by locktite.
 
I've never used the epoxy, but the Rustoleum Truck Bed Coating spray works so well, I don't see why I would use anything else. I spray the entire coil (The bottom gets 3-4 light coats along with the edges and the top just a 1 or 2 so that the coil is a uniform color.) The best part about the spray bedliner is that it can easily be touched up whenever needed. Normally the coils I use on land will go a season or more before they need resprayed, but those used on the beach or in rocky underwater areas will sometimes need an extra coat or two during the summer.
 
Some bedliner contains small particals of metel. You have to read the can. Me? i wouldn't take the chance.
 
ZOFCHAK said:
I've never used the epoxy, but the Rustoleum Truck Bed Coating spray works so well, I don't see why I would use anything else. I spray the entire coil (The bottom gets 3-4 light coats along with the edges and the top just a 1 or 2 so that the coil is a uniform color.) The best part about the spray bedliner is that it can easily be touched up whenever needed. Normally the coils I use on land will go a season or more before they need resprayed, but those used on the beach or in rocky underwater areas will sometimes need an extra coat or two during the summer.
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yep this is some good stuff. I tried the epoxy first but it chipped off in short order. Been using the bedliner for quite awhile now and it works great. Its also great for coating other things as well, detecting stuff I mean like scoop handles and such, versatile stuff.
 
If you have a warranty..... DONT USE BED LINER it voids the warranty. I know this because i Emailed them when i wanted to do it for my Xcal since i had lost the cover. Im assuming its because some do contain metal flakes. Personally i keep the cover on, these machine run so well unlike the Explorer that gets testy with anything between the coil and cover.

Dew
 
EZrider said:
Some bedliner contains small particals of metel. You have to read the can. Me? i wouldn't take the chance.
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TRUE DAT!

Epoxy can have graphite or other field dampening compounds in it. Read the MSDS.
 
Is their a specific epoxy that has graphite in it. or ground dampening compounds that you know about. Lets here it (good for everyone to know)
 
Lets put it this way. I use the loctite brand marine 2 part expoy on my machine. I have no problems hitting a ring at 15in. So there is nothing in it that dampends my coils signal.
 
My vote if for spray on bed liner. It works great. Just spray a heavy coat on a piece of cardboard and then sweep over it with your machine to see if it has any metal in it. Just make sure you allow the stuff to dry really well for hours between coats because I think if you paint over a coat that hasn't hardened up real well it may stay that way.
 
rl48off said:
Is their a specific epoxy that has graphite in it. or ground dampening compounds that you know about. Lets here it (good for everyone to know)
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http://www.ellsworth.com/adhesives/electrically_conductive_adhesives.html?gclid=CLqHy_Hq660CFYXsKgodigNA8g

They're out there....Thats not my point.
Additives are used to change the strength, conductivity, hardness, color, etc., of epoxy. If The epoxy is for general use, I doubt the instructions will mention electrical properties of the composition.
Its just too easy to check first.
 
I e-mailed Dupli and asked them if the product I bought has any metal properties in it. I gave her a description and stock # on can ....it's Dupli-Bed Coating in a blue can stock # is TR 250 Black. She wrote back this (I'm not using bed Armor) so I had to write back again and waiting for an answer on the above purchase. If your using their Bed Armor I think you should STOP ! Lets close the book on Bed Armor so far.



1/25/2012 2:58:56 PM [Agent Note]

Ronald,

Thank you for contacting Dupli-Color. We appreciate your inquiry.

Yes, the Bed Armor contains metal. It is found in the Kevlar particles infused in product.

I hope you found this information helpful. If you have any additional questions please email me back.

Sincerely,

Jill
Dupli-Color Product Support
 
I think I am just going to use the coil cover and deal with it. I have a few nicks on the bottom of the coil that I can spot touch up with some epoxy . But I think I will just use a coil cover. The whole graphite and metal particles was enough to turn me away from the idea. Thanks for all the info though.:thumbup:
 
Here's another option. Sealing the cover to the coil using a solution of MEK and ABS plastic scraps.
Since the coil and cover are ABS plastic, the solution will actually make a "plastic weld" type of bond.
It turns back into hard plastic after it dries. This is similar to, if not the same way many commercial coils are sealed

The applicator bottle and tips can be found at craft stores.
The amount of MEK to plastic should be around 1 to 1. A consistency of molasses is good.
Make sure to work the air bubbles out of the bead. A couple layers will ensure hidden bubbles don't breach the seal.
When the solution dries it shrinks so there is room for extra layers.
Its tedious work but it looks nice and adds very little weight to the coil.
It's also rather easy to slide an exacto knife into the weld and get it between the coil and cover if a repair is needed.
 
Neither one is particularly durable, HOWEVER it beats running a coil cover. I like to coat the coil initially with Loctite Marine Epoxy with a couple of coats. Then I like to use the Rustoleum Spray on Bed Liner(black) for a couple of coats. The Bed Liner is black and when it wears through into Expoxy, that is grey. Then if it wears through grey into black you are into the coil. It works OK, but you have to maintain it every now and then.
 
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